: Dissapointed kind of on dyno results any input?/



theotherguyssn
07-08-13, 04:37 PM
So had my 06 sts-v taken to dyno shop to be dynoed and tuned now was a mustang dyno and he said it reads low but he told me it put down 270 on the ground and car has magnaflow mufflers and resonator along with stage 1 and 2 spectre intake. Said after he got done tuning it put down 330 on ground along with putting shift tables out of a 13 vette for better shift response anybody kind of ran into same issue i figured numbers would have been way higher stock lol

Psycho-albanian
07-08-13, 04:55 PM
Stock v's put down 360 370 hp your tuner is a moron. Give jesse at wait4me a call he'll wake up your car big time.

AriGold.
07-08-13, 05:36 PM
Do you have a Dyno sheet? Post the name of the shop and the tuner who did the work. Any photos of your car?

Fierofiend
07-08-13, 06:20 PM
The numbers are irrelevant. There could be any number of factors that scale the HP number. The important part is that you've gained quite a bit of power from the tune. If you're worried, dyno at another location to verify numbers.

boomys10
07-08-13, 08:31 PM
I ran on a mustang dyno then the following week on a dynojet and it was a 34hp difference between the two. you are putting way to much on the number and not what a dyno is. a dyno is used as a tool to tune your car and make it all things are good in a controlled environment. if you saw a 50+hp gain from only a tune, your doing more than great.

Psycho-albanian
07-08-13, 08:49 PM
I put down 390 with just borla and the d3 intake.

TimmyC
07-08-13, 09:51 PM
The biggest indicator that something isn't right is the 60rwhp gain from a tune. That is not possible. Go somewhere else to verify that the tune he put on there is decent and to get another set of numbers. Your car should make the 360-380 that was previously mentioned and it should pick up 15-20rwhp with a tune. There aren't that many factors that affect wide open throttle. Timing and air/fuel ratio. That's it. Both would have to be way, way off to pick up that much power.

1madstsv
07-08-13, 11:10 PM
Yea they were doing some thing with the dyno to pick up that much. My 06 stock made 368. Last weekend the new owner dynoed it and it made 389 with a tune no cats magnaflow x-pipe and mufflers. And the custom intake. with 100k now on it. And no before any one asks I have yet to put the 08 on the dyno but It just out runs the 06 so the 412 I was told it makes might be right. But any way you should go to some one else for tuning and a deferent dyno. I hope the did not charge you much.

theotherguyssn
07-09-13, 08:01 AM
yea well after driving the car it def felt way better it was about a 100% humid day with it about 90 degrees too so sure it had a lot of influence but car def feels way stronger than before i may take it to another shop see if number vary long as its hauling ass i'm happy lol

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thanks for all the input def kind of figured i would have been dissapointed with numbers most ppl are when they find it what their car acutally put down just didn't think mind would have been that low hahaha but seat of pants horse power feels strong as hell car will grenade tires now until i let off guy that did tuning said air to fuel was rich as hell which i figured i had d3 module installed before i took to him but unhooked before i took up to the shop i wish i would have left module on and let him do a run on dyno just to see what diffence the tuner module did and just a stock run with it unhooked. i got the module on here posted for sale if anybody is interested in it lol

theotherguyssn
07-09-13, 03:25 PM
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Guy.Seminerio
07-09-13, 03:30 PM
Beautiful. What's the best way to paint calipers? Longest lasting, best look. Are there certain shops I should go to? I'd probably not be doing this myself. I'm thinking red.

theotherguyssn
07-09-13, 03:33 PM
123986

theotherguyssn
07-09-13, 04:44 PM
honestly i painted calipers with vht yellow paint bought the v viynals from 8th day creations put them on then used vht clear over them and they look as good as powercoating i think maybe not a durable but look awesome

ChurchSTSV
07-09-13, 05:38 PM
Oh man that's nice. Makes me want to paint mine...what color tho?

Guy.Seminerio
07-09-13, 06:20 PM
Blue would be different.

theotherguyssn
07-09-13, 06:25 PM
i went yellow trying to copy the black diamond edition new cts-v's but needed more of a more mustard color yellow but couldn't find one and didn't want to take them off the car

theotherguyssn
07-09-13, 06:28 PM
124106 def would recomend if you do use the spray paint get the vht brand and their clear coat i have NEVER had a clear in a spray can come out as shiny as it did with that brand

1madstsv
07-09-13, 06:28 PM
I did mine in red and they seem to be holding up good.

ChurchSTSV
07-09-13, 06:31 PM
Blue would be different.

I like that. But blue and silver? I dont know how that would look.

Guy.Seminerio
07-09-13, 08:16 PM
True. I'm debating red or blue.

ChurchSTSV
07-09-13, 08:22 PM
We need some Photoshop pronto.

Guy.Seminerio
07-09-13, 08:48 PM
That would be excellent. Unfortunately I can't mess with that stuff but id love to sample the colors before I choose.

TimmyC
07-09-13, 09:57 PM
I like the yellow calipers and black wheels. if I ever get to cosmetic mods on my car that's what I'm doing.

I also like the smoked chrome strip below the windows.

rbzstsv
07-09-13, 10:47 PM
I would like to drag race with the beast shining thru the paint in the background

Guy.Seminerio
07-09-13, 11:00 PM
Just realized what that bottle was. Believe it or not I only discovered that drink recently. It's pretty amazing how they get it to taste like that. Good stuff.

CShiv
07-10-13, 08:13 AM
I was thinking of going with the blue in the V emblem

theotherguyssn
07-11-13, 07:52 AM
so follow up on dyno/tune raced buddy of mine that has a bone stock 06 bmw 550i raced him before had tune and he got me by about 2.5 cars, after tune last night did two runs and got him by a half a car or so. i figured pretty good improvement from what it was before. still amazes me how fast a stock 550 is lol

Charles Warren
07-11-13, 10:13 AM
550 beat a v??? i raced my homeboys 09 550 and we stick neck and neck until we run into traffic and im on big heavy 22s and have a reg sts v8. 360hp for bmw 550 and im 320 hp which i dont care for manufact numbers i just like to see what cars do, i think the 550 is fast but not stsv fast lol but then again g8 gt guys say they beat sts v's and g8 is same hp as 550's

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and vht has a pretty gold color for brakes, well its engine paint so i went with the gold which looks almost like brembo for infiniti or nissans

AriGold.
07-11-13, 11:46 AM
I did mine in red and they seem to be holding up good.

If had planned to ask that on you're thread. I'm thinking about painting mine.

rbzstsv
07-11-13, 12:31 PM
My brother has g8 gt. After intake/headers/exhaust/tune then we ran when I had only Axel back no tune we were about even. Stock gxp g8 is same speed as stock B.C.

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My brother has g8 gt. After intake/headers/exhaust/tune and new tires then we ran. I had only Axel back no tune we were about even. Id win by half car to car. Stock gxp g8 is same speed as stock V. G8 gt is about 4000 lbs, Same transmission if IM not mistaken. 550i you should walk away from.

theotherguyssn
07-11-13, 02:44 PM
yea thast what i was assuming i raced the 550 when my sts-v was stock and he blew my doors off unless hes just got a little shot hidden on it he isn't telling me about the numbers just dont add up to me lol. heres vid of my car vs the 550 right after i bought my car

boomys10
07-11-13, 03:30 PM
was that done after a long drive? if it was Im not surprised with the results. our cars heat soak VERY BADLY. but glad you got him back.

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im surprised your brother didn't beat you in all honesty..

theotherguyssn
07-11-13, 03:37 PM
yea it was a good ride out to where we raced about 20-25 min ride on hwy and was in summer time, next mod is going to be a timmyc heat exchanger lol

Charles Warren
07-13-13, 04:58 AM
I'm in my homeboys 550 I and ive been playing with sport mode and his car comes alive mid band on up but doesn't feel as responsive as my na sts so I'm gonna say that 550 in the video is not stock or a m5 with 550 badges lol. Ive rode in a 09 sts v coworker has 1 of 3 black frost or whatever its called and I would get whooped in this 550 if I tried to run him. But glad you got em after the tune

theotherguyssn
07-14-13, 09:37 PM
ya was bugging the hell out of me how its so fast and its guy a work with so i know its nothing done less its had some kind of tune or little shot put on it but i do know its a 550 but felt good to jump out on it finally instead of him killing me lol

youknooow
07-15-13, 06:48 AM
No 550 regardless of year is walking away from any STS-V like that, heat soaked or not!

Charles Warren
07-16-13, 05:23 AM
^^^^what he said.

theotherguyssn
07-16-13, 03:03 PM
lol yea well least im even with him now with a tune stage 1 and 2 air intake and mufflers need to get heat exchanger and pulley and tune and be done witH it

theotherguyssn
07-17-13, 11:27 AM
last run right before car was tuned apologize for kinda poor video film g/f got lost when i swapped lanes. new m3 at very end that came blowing by us lol trans was just left it in drive not manually shifting either

CMNTMXR57
07-17-13, 08:15 PM
I see one thing that in a scan hasn't been mentioned (maybe it has and I just missed it)... OUR CARS HATE HEAT! The intercooler in this car sucks and any heatsoak from driving and or a couple pulls, sucks the life out of it.

The other issue, I had on my first run on the rollers, and I came up with bad numbers, was fueling. GM runs these things rich from the factory as a protectionary measure to keep from melting slugs by possibly running too lean at WOT. Anyway, mine had years of bad habits learned. So I did an idle re-learn, and came back a couple days later, and my stock numbers shot up 30rwhp.

They then tuned it. Let it sit for a couple hours to cool, then did the pulls and got the 412rwhp. A week later, fresh off the street, the car was lucky to make 360rwhp. All due to heatsoak. Let it cool a couple hours again, and the power came back.

This car does not like heat and is impossible to cool down on these hot days. Whether it be IAT2's, ECT's, Transmission fluid temps, you name it, it takes forever to cool down while driving. These 90* days only exaggerate the issue. I attribute this to lack of sufficient airflow in through the grills then through all the radiators up there. Air hits the first radiator, and looses it's velocity, as well as picking up heat, then travels through the next cooler, slower and with heat, and finally the third (the main radiator).

ChurchSTSV
07-17-13, 11:40 PM
Well Damn. It averages over 100 degrees here. Guess I need that TimmyC intercooler asap.

theotherguyssn
07-18-13, 10:09 AM
yea im down in south carolina and it gets so humid and when dyno pulls were done it was about 95 degrees with it non stop on and off raining for past month so humidty was way up the heat exchanger is def going to be my next purchase plus everytime i have ran it has been a 20-25 mins hwy drive out to where we go to mess around so engine def has gotten a little hott but thanks for the input cmntmxr57. gotta love the south haha

CMNTMXR57
07-18-13, 11:26 AM
And there is your issue. After a drive, pop the hood and try touching the big black piece on top of the engine. That's your intercooler. My guess is you'll pull your hand back VERY quickly as it's that hot. If it's that hot to the touch, what do temps do you think the air being blown through it is at?

GM typically uses 57* as the optimum setting for fuel and ignition tables in the PCM. If your IAT2's (Post S/C and Intercooler are in the 140* plus range), it doesn't take much to figure out that you aren't anywhere near the most aggressive parts of those mapping tables, stock or tuned. Just cruising now in 90* plus heat my IAT2's are in the 140* range. A couple WOT runs and that will spike much higher. I think the PCM has the BOV open for safety reasons at 260* or around that area...

With that said, once it all cools, be sure to check your coolant levels for the intercooler too. I check mine daily in this heat. I've been having to add to mine lately due to the fact that I recently flushed and filled the system, as well as the heat. So I've been topping off with a table spoon or two worth of Dexcool daily.

boomys10
07-18-13, 02:07 PM
the heat xchanger DOES NOT help with humidity, nothing does honestly. I ran mine last night against a car I normally put 5-9 cars on (depends on roll and how much I spin) and he was door to door with me. 95* out at 11pm and 90% humididty, it was a nightmare of a night!!

theotherguyssn
07-18-13, 07:49 PM
haha yea im ready for some nice 50 degree nights to go out and have some fun

CMNTMXR57
07-19-13, 01:03 PM
It's frustrating isn't it.

GizmoQ
07-22-13, 08:31 PM
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I'm not in here often cause most STS-V discussion threads are pretty civil now, but I have to remove the street racing videos. That's a NO-NO on this site.

Rules say no discussion either, but as long as I can keep Florian outta here, I'll let it slide from time to time. When it becomes a daily occurrence, threads will be closed. No infractions given at this time if it stops NOW!



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I got no stinking cooling problem:
http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad271/GizmoQ/European%20Vacation/FireFox/Snake%20Bite/stlcarsandcoffee003_zpsd7901b97.jpg (http://s943.photobucket.com/user/GizmoQ/media/European%20Vacation/FireFox/Snake%20Bite/stlcarsandcoffee003_zpsd7901b97.jpg.html)

boomys10
07-22-13, 09:57 PM
you need more than just cooling though gizmo. since I cant speak of the no no phrase, I will tell you about a huge event taking place this Saturday huge car show and NOTHING law breaking afterwards!! hit me up if your interested. also, add the heat xchanger and watch the difference OP, its HUGE!!

rbzstsv
07-22-13, 11:31 PM
I think he may know.. Lol :)

theotherguyssn
07-23-13, 11:34 AM
woops sorry for videos lol

Charles Warren
07-24-13, 09:22 AM
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I'm not in here often cause most STS-V discussion threads are pretty civil now, but I have to remove the street racing videos. That's a NO-NO on this site.

Rules say no discussion either, but as long as I can keep Florian outta here, I'll let it slide from time to time. When it becomes a daily occurrence, threads will be closed. No infractions given at this time if it stops NOW!



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I got no stinking cooling problem:
http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad271/GizmoQ/European%20Vacation/FireFox/Snake%20Bite/stlcarsandcoffee003_zpsd7901b97.jpg (http://s943.photobucket.com/user/GizmoQ/media/European%20Vacation/FireFox/Snake%20Bite/stlcarsandcoffee003_zpsd7901b97.jpg.html)

ice bag????

GizmoQ
07-24-13, 10:04 AM
ice bag????

No, ActiveInterchiller Super Chiller: that pic was after 30 minutes of driving, ambient temp 82*, IAT 74*, Intercooler coolant 46*. Supercharger sweating from the cooling via A/C.

rbzstsv
07-24-13, 12:13 PM
Are there any out for the sts v? Is this on your xlr v?

TimmyC
07-24-13, 12:21 PM
no, and yes.

AriGold.
07-24-13, 01:55 PM
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I'm not in here often cause most STS-V discussion threads are pretty civil now, but I have to remove the street racing videos. That's a NO-NO on this site.

Rules say no discussion either, but as long as I can keep Florian outta here, I'll let it slide from time to time. When it becomes a daily occurrence, threads will be closed. No infractions given at this time if it stops NOW!

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I got no stinking cooling problem:


They street race on tv now.. Discovery.

Even though they shut the streets down for filming I can assure you its all real here down here.

rbzstsv
07-24-13, 02:04 PM
The 2000whp murder nova? Lol.

theotherguyssn
08-11-13, 12:13 PM
so little update on the car think figured out why was running so sluggish went to put my heat exchanger on i got from tim and found out the ic pump hasn't even been working on the car so so no wonder dam thing been running so crappy especially under any kind of heat load haha got a new one ordered should be here this week i'm hoping should make a hell of a difference in performance

AriGold.
08-11-13, 03:41 PM
Good to hear.. post some photos of the install

theotherguyssn
08-11-13, 05:08 PM
will do just had to remove front bumper i relocated a wiring harness on the backside of the brackets up front so the exchanger would fit better and had to take a couple brackets off for p/s cooler lines but nothing to bad at all was very simple install looks bad ass lol

ChurchSTSV
08-16-13, 11:54 AM
How do you know if the ic pump is shot?

TimmyC
08-16-13, 01:06 PM
Disconnect one of the hoses on the intercooler lid while the car is running. If no water comes out your pump is bad.

ChurchSTSV
08-16-13, 01:43 PM
Well hell. Guess I'll have to do that when I put everything on. Honestly, at 68k should I be looking at buying an upgraded pump?