: "So your girlfriend rolls a Honda, playin' workout tapes by Fonda"



I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-28-13, 08:31 AM
But Fonda ain't got a motor in the back of her Honda... :D

I went and leased a 2013 Accord LX Sedan last night. I got hooked up with a sweet deal at work, got it for well under invoice, was given a good amount for my trade (way more than a friend offered) and got window tint thrown in for cost. Ahh, the joys of working at a large Honda dealer!


I needed a more reliable mode of daily transportation than my LeSabre. In the last three months, it spent significant time off the road, in the shop, getting miscellaneous crap fixed. It was constantly one thing after another, which wouldn't be a big deal if I LOVED the car or if I was mechanically inclined, but I'm not. It sucks spending your day off at the mechanic, explaining again what it's doing. No bueno. Also constantly putting money into a car worth $1000 on a good day was not a wise investment.

Since I started at Brookdale Honda last month, I've really been eyeing up the all new 2013 Accords. They've gone from a design that was ugly and stale to one that was classy and fresh. It's more powerful, more fuel efficient and quicker. I was always driving our demo Accord LX, as well as a Civic EX, to see which I liked more. I always leaned towards the Accord LX, but would go to the Civic EX if the payment was much lower, but it wasn't significantly different AND the insurance was higher on the Civic.

So last night, I decided to pull the trigger on an Accord LX Sedan, in the super classy, rich looking Basque Red Pearl II with the ivory (wheat) cloth interior. Since the Ivory interior was a must have for me (as opposed to the claustrophobic all black interior or the sterile grey interior), it's only offered in a few exterior colors (Champagne, Pearl White, Black and Basque Red) black is too common and impossible to keep clean, champagne is an old man's color, pearl white would be OK if I had to, but Basque Red is my color of choice. This is the 3rd maroon car I've owned....I'm a huge fan of red cars!

I'm very happy to lease an Accord!

1) The Accord has won many awards in it's lifetime, biggest of which being Car and Driver's "10 best" award, received 24 of the last 28 years. The 2013 Accord was also voted one of the 10 best cars sold in America by Automobile Magazine.
2) Leasing is easy. The only things I have to budget for are the payments and gas! No surprises, no headaches! Just a modest once monthly bill that's easy to plan for! Plus, I can buy out the Accord at the end of the lease if I want to.
3) Is there anything MORE reliable than a new Honda?
4) 27/36 MPG!
5) It's great to have a car that I sell. Adds credibility to the conversation.
6) My grandpa owned or leased Hondas from the late 70s to the mid 2000's. Grandpa was a financial planner, so he knew what a good investment was. I have many memories riding around in grandpa's '90s era Accords, which planted the seed in my brain early in life that Hondas were good cars. Grandpa actually bought a new Lesabre in 1996 or 1997 and hated it, haha. Had it for a year then traded it off on another Accord. If he were still alive, I'm sure he'd be proud of my choice.

This is my first brand new car, first lease, first car from a Japanese brand (All Accords have been built in Marysville, Ohio since 1982 though), first four cylinder and first CVT equipped car.

Even though it's a four cylinder with a CVT, performance is never a question. It feels very sprightly and fun to drive. 2.4L, direct injected, dual overhead cam....185hp. 0-60 in about 7.5 seconds, very tossable, quick steering and confident handling. What's not to like?

I almost leased a Kia Optima LX at my old store, but decided to fix my LeSabre. Never considered an Altima, as I liked the Kia more, but I definitely like the Honda most. Much better quality.

I've gotta get ready for work, but I'll post pictures later.

truckinman
06-28-13, 08:49 AM
Congrats man. Those accords are pretty sharp. At first I was hesitant, but they've grown on me a lot. Sounds like its performance, acceleration wise, is identical to my 14 forte. Surprisingly quick for a standard 4 cylinder. Looking forward to pics

ben.gators
06-28-13, 09:08 AM
Very nice! Congratulations! Hope this new Honda serves you well. As for the first new car, I know, it feels strange in a very pleasant way! My ATS is my first brand new car too! Please let us know how you feel about that CVT system.

EcSTSatic
06-28-13, 10:00 AM
Congrats.
Was the mileage allowance sufficient ? The residual value should be good enough to walk away at the end of the lease.

truckinman
06-28-13, 10:02 AM
I'm not sure I could ever get use to a cvt. constantly feeling like the transmission is slipping just doesn't seem appealing. I've only driven one tho. In a scion IQ or what ever that scion is that competes with cars like the smart car. Maybe I'd like it more in a car like the accord.

thebigjimsho
06-28-13, 11:59 AM
I'm not sure I could ever get use to a cvt. constantly feeling like the transmission is slipping just doesn't seem appealing. I've only driven one tho. In a scion IQ or what ever that scion is that competes with cars like the smart car. Maybe I'd like it more in a car like the accord.

First off, its an excellent CVT. And for me to ever say that? Weird...

I've test driven a few of the newer Accords. They're very, very good cars. If the numbers were a little better for me last fall, I'd be in one right now and not only driving the TC everywhere.

And you should see the red/ivory combo in person. If you like the style of the new Accord, that color makes it twice as nice.

But, Chad, swap out to some EX or Sport wheels pronto!

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Oh, the numbers and the fact that if you want a manual you'd better like black and grey and not care about options...

truckinman
06-28-13, 12:49 PM
Ill prob regret knowing but ill ask. Lol. I never even thought to look at the accord when I bought my forte. Which model of accord could I have gotten for the same sticker price as my loaded forte? Lol. Sticker was 25.6k. I'm just curious lol.

orconn
06-28-13, 01:33 PM
Everyone should have a brand new car at least once in their life! Then you can decide if being "brand new" is important to you.

AElayyat
06-28-13, 04:25 PM
Congrats on the ride..you will like the accord.


Since the 13s came out I have been thinking about trading in my 2010 sedan for one!

Aron9000
06-28-13, 06:42 PM
Congrats on the Accord. It always amazes me how much more car you get jumping from a Civic to an Accord. I don't know what they sell/lease for in the real world, but on Honda's website a Civic LX was $18,900 and an Accord was $22,500 or so. For $3500 its an absolute no brainer IMO, go with the Accord.

ben.gators
06-28-13, 06:52 PM
In the CVT's defense, first time I drove a car with CVT system was an 2005 A4, and to be honest I didn't realize the CVT's effect. Maybe I was too much distracted by the car itself. Then, when I realized that it is a CVT (the dealer had no idea it was or not and even he didn't know basically what CVT is!), I started to pay attention to RPM. It was the only thing that felt weird! Other than than it was OK. I passed all A4 CVTs because they are not as reliable as the regular automatic systems or manual gearboxes.

77CDV
06-28-13, 11:22 PM
Congrats, Chad! Enjoy your new ride! :thumbsup:

Jesda
06-29-13, 12:25 AM
Subaru and Honda do okay with their CVTs. They're less than thrilling but perfectly adequate for casual driving. Nissan's CVTs are the worst, both unreliable and miserable to drive. Otherwise, an "excellent CVT" is like poop that stinks a bit less.

The trade-off is outstanding fuel economy.

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Chad! The pics aren't loading! :)

MrHolland
06-29-13, 01:04 AM
From a song quickly approaching "oldie" status by the young people of today. I like it!!!!

----OH,,,,Congrats on the car too!!

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-29-13, 01:15 AM
I'll post pictures later, been very busy at work.....month end.


Honda's CVT feels a LOT different from Nissan's because it's much quieter (Nissan's is really whiny in the I-4 Altima), is much smoother and feels like it has more low end grunt. I would never have leased an Altima, partially because I hated Nissan's CVT, but this is a lot better. With the throttle tip in on the Honda and transmission gearing, it pulls along at low rpm like a traditional automatic transmission.

It's weird not feeling it shift during heavy acceleration, but it's very smooth and is quicker than a traditional five or six speed.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-29-13, 08:53 AM
Here's a few pictures from last week, when I decided Basque Red Pearl was the color for me. This is the only LX in Basque Red (stock # 131702) we had in stock, which is the one I leased.

The car was built on 5/24/13 and we received it from the factory on 6/3. It had 7 miles on it when I got it.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/The%20Accord/null_zps60bc47bf.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/Chadillac8705/media/The%20Accord/null_zps60bc47bf.jpg.html)

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/The%20Accord/null_zps17e87ad5.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/Chadillac8705/media/The%20Accord/null_zps17e87ad5.jpg.html)

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/The%20Accord/null_zps627d6ed6.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/Chadillac8705/media/The%20Accord/null_zps627d6ed6.jpg.html)

Interior pictures, pre-clean up.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/The%20Accord/null_zpsd627a6dd.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/Chadillac8705/media/The%20Accord/null_zpsd627a6dd.jpg.html)

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/The%20Accord/null_zpsb20080f8.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/Chadillac8705/media/The%20Accord/null_zpsb20080f8.jpg.html)

Inside our storage garage, instead of getting stormed on.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/The%20Accord/null_zps865ab45e.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/Chadillac8705/media/The%20Accord/null_zps865ab45e.jpg.html)

Bye-bye LeSabre, hello Honda.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/The%20Accord/null_zps3797581f.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/Chadillac8705/media/The%20Accord/null_zps3797581f.jpg.html)

Proud owner.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/The%20Accord/null_zps092aa608.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/Chadillac8705/media/The%20Accord/null_zps092aa608.jpg.html)

All waxed up and ready to go!
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/The%20Accord/null_zps4eb32e15.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/Chadillac8705/media/The%20Accord/null_zps4eb32e15.jpg.html)

Stingroo
06-29-13, 09:03 AM
Maybe it's just me, but those wheels look small on the car.

Hoosier Daddy
06-29-13, 09:07 AM
Very nice!

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Maybe it's just me, but those wheels look small on the car.
Please tell me you aren't saying the wheels make his car look fat.

talismandave
06-29-13, 10:01 AM
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/The%20Accord/null_zps092aa608.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/Chadillac8705/media/The%20Accord/null_zps092aa608.jpg.html)

All waxed up and ready to go!



Looks great!:thumbsup:

.....and nobody here wants to know about your manscaping.......:ill:

truckinman
06-29-13, 03:06 PM
VERY sharp!! I wish that shade of red were available on the new fortes. I've always loved that shade on cars. Definitely looks great chad!

Feels good seeing just the number 7 in the space you're use to seeing 5 or more digits. Lol. 7 is what our forte had too. Now has 664

For a base model, you're accord looks much more than base. I was expecting plastic wheel covers and things like that. Lol

ted tcb
06-29-13, 07:09 PM
Nice car, Chad.

Will it get much summer use now that the Marauder is back on the road?
That color combo would look great with a mild tint all the way around.

I hope you got some of your $$ back from the LeSabre experiment.
Now you'll be checking in on the Accord Forums as well.

vincentm
06-29-13, 08:27 PM
Shiny tires always make a car pop out, Don't care for Hondas but im glad you found a reliable vehicle that looks pretty good, i like that color.

ryannel2003
06-29-13, 09:04 PM
It's no secret that I'm a huge fan of the current Accord. Honda definitely corrected all the wrongs with the previous generation and made this a leader in the class. I'm usually not a fan of darker reds but I do love this color with the beige interior. I sure hope you get lots of joy out of this car!

vincentm
06-29-13, 10:22 PM
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/The%20Accord/null_zps3797581f.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/Chadillac8705/media/The%20Accord/null_zps3797581f.jpg.html)




There's a super clean LeSabre right down the street from me, driven daily by an elderly gentlemen who lives in a senior's apt complex/housing place, white, just like this but mint

thebigjimsho
06-30-13, 01:25 AM
Sport wheels, now!

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-30-13, 02:44 AM
Nice car, Chad.

Will it get much summer use now that the Marauder is back on the road?
That color combo would look great with a mild tint all the way around.

I hope you got some of your $$ back from the LeSabre experiment.
Now you'll be checking in on the Accord Forums as well.

Thanks, I know you're very Accord/Honda loyal, so I'll be interested to hear if you've ever driven one of these 9th generation Accords yet.

The Marauder will still keep it's current "toy car" status, only getting driven to work sparingly and enjoyed on nice weekend days.

I paid $1100 for the LeSabre last fall, I got $900 for it on trade. I had a friend interested in buying it, but he wouldn't match that.

Do you have a good Accord forums?


Maybe it's just me, but those wheels look small on the car.

You seem to always be the first to nitpick my cars. Why is that?


Ill prob regret knowing but ill ask. Lol. I never even thought to look at the accord when I bought my forte. Which model of accord could I have gotten for the same sticker price as my loaded forte? Lol. Sticker was 25.6k. I'm just curious lol.

A $25,000 Accord would be the EX. It's gonna have all the goodies of the LX I've got, plus the moonroof, 17 alloy wheels, keyless ignition & smart-entry, Honda lane watch (a camera in the right side mirror will show what's in your blind spot when you put your right blinker on) and some other features. No leather or no navigation though.


It's no secret that I'm a huge fan of the current Accord. Honda definitely corrected all the wrongs with the previous generation and made this a leader in the class. I'm usually not a fan of darker reds but I do love this color with the beige interior. I sure hope you get lots of joy out of this car!

The previous generation Accord was so "meh" it wasn't even something I'd consider buying. We have a ton of the 2008-12 Accords on our lot, in all trim levels and configurations, but it's not something I'd ever consider. They're uglier inside & out, duller to drive and the largest Accords ever. The Accords that came before and after were smaller, sprightlier, more fun to drive, better looking.

With the 2008-12 Accord, it's almost as if Honda lost their way and forgot what makes it a Honda.

I've always been a huge fan of Accords in general. They're all around great cars! Extremely well rounded, fun to drive cars that appeal to many, are a great value, have good interior room, a comfortable ride and an extremely high loyalty rate. They are leaders in their class and have been for a very long time. The Camry is nowhere near as nice, the other cars in the class (Fusion, 6, Optima, Sonata, 200, Malibu, etc) are making ground, but aren't touching the Accord's status or sales numbers, yet.

Stingroo
06-30-13, 03:02 AM
You seem to always be the first to nitpick my cars. Why is that?

Wut? I don't recall this occurring ever. The Marauder is awesome. The Regal was pretty cool, too. Even this Accord looks nice with its color/interior combo, but to me the wheels/tires look too small on it because the high beltline makes it look slab sided. Either that, or it sits too high (which is understandable, it's an everyday family sedan). I just don't find it aesthetically pleasing, that's all.

Is there a bigger wheel option on the upper trim levels that alleviates this?

ryannel2003
06-30-13, 03:05 AM
I usually do car details on the side and one of those cars happens to be an '09 Accord EX V6. I actually don't mind the styling so much as the EX's have the larger wheels which fit the car better. The interior is a bit strange at first with all the buttons which makes it very un-Honda but they are easy to get used to and mostly self-explanatory. I haven't had any seat time with this generation of the car but it definitely seems like a huge step up from the previous car. Of course my favorite design will always be the '90-'93 sedan. It was one of the first cars I can remember riding in as a child.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-30-13, 03:38 AM
I usually do car details on the side and one of those cars happens to be an '09 Accord EX V6. I actually don't mind the styling so much as the EX's have the larger wheels which fit the car better. The interior is a bit strange at first with all the buttons which makes it very un-Honda but they are easy to get used to and mostly self-explanatory. I haven't had any seat time with this generation of the car but it definitely seems like a huge step up from the previous car. Of course my favorite design will always be the '90-'93 sedan. It was one of the first cars I can remember riding in as a child.

I hated the interiors in the 08-12 Accords. It's button city, there's no real logical flow to them and the dash design is ugly. The seats are firmer and the materials aren't as nice as the current models.


Wut? I don't recall this occurring ever. The Marauder is awesome. The Regal was pretty cool, too. Even this Accord looks nice with its color/interior combo, but to me the wheels/tires look too small on it because the high beltline makes it look slab sided. Either that, or it sits too high (which is understandable, it's an everyday family sedan). I just don't find it aesthetically pleasing, that's all.

Is there a bigger wheel option on the upper trim levels that alleviates this?

The Accord LX has 16" alloy wheels, the Sport model (I-4 model between the LX and EX) has 18" wheels and the EX/EX-L and Touring models have 17" wheels. The Accord LX wheels are my least favorite of all the wheels offered on the 2013 Accords, but it beats the hubcaps that Honda had standard on the 2012 Accords as well as the competition offers on their entry level mid-size sedans.

Jesda
06-30-13, 05:44 AM
My '93 that I owned back in 2002 looked almost exactly like this:
http://columbian.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/croppedphotos/2010/09/20/1992_white__honda_accord_t640.jpg?a6ea3ebd4438a44b 86d2e9c39ecf7613005fe067

It drove well, looked good, was comfortable to sit in, and could cruise at 80mph all day long. Nice stereo too! I had XM satellite radio way back in the day. Paid $400+ installed.


Actual photo of me driving, taken with a film camera:
http://www.q45.org/jesda/moreroadtrip/scan0013.jpg

truckinman
06-30-13, 08:42 AM
Yea I did test drove an 11 accord and it just didn't do anything for me. It was the EX but not the EX-L, so no leather but it had a sunroof n all that. But it was VERY boring to drive. About 6 years ago I test drove an 06 accord, both fully loaded EX-L's, one with the 4 cyl and one with the 6. I enjoyed both of them. Even back in 06, the 4 was a quick little engine for such a larger car. Of course the 240 hp V6 was even more fun. Lol. But I even thought the generation b4 the 08's looked better inside and out than the 08-12. To me, I always felt as though Honda took a huge step backwards in 08 with that accord.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-30-13, 09:28 AM
We had a few 2006-07 Accord EX-V6's in stock at work since I've started there two months ago. I enjoyed driving both of them. The V6 in them is super smooth, sounds sweet and is really quick, making for a fun to drive experience. I like the smooth, polished look of the 2003-07 body style, and I'd really considered buying one of them instead of leasing, but decided against it because they were both out of the warranty and would take more fuel than the model I bought.

ryannel2003
06-30-13, 11:05 AM
My '93 that I owned back in 2002 looked almost exactly like this:
http://columbian.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/croppedphotos/2010/09/20/1992_white__honda_accord_t640.jpg?a6ea3ebd4438a44b 86d2e9c39ecf7613005fe067

It drove well, looked good, was comfortable to sit in, and could cruise at 80mph all day long. Nice stereo too! I had XM satellite radio way back in the day. Paid $400+ installed.


Actual photo of me driving, taken with a film camera:
http://www.q45.org/jesda/moreroadtrip/scan0013.jpg

My grandmother had a '92 LX that looked just like the one pictured above with blue cloth interior. She previously had an '85 Accord that she told me she preferred to the '92. The '92 was sold to my aunt and she purchased the '00 Camry we still have to this day.

truckinman
06-30-13, 11:29 AM
My step mom had a 1988 accord hatch back 5 SPD that she REALLY enjoyed. Bought it brand new and put close to 300k on it. Then they traded it for a brand new 04 civic and still have that car. But her 88 was apparently the last year for the hatchback accord.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-30-13, 12:04 PM
Like I said earlier, my dad's dad always owned Hondas starting in the late '70s. First up was a '79 Prelude, then an '85 Accord, then an '87 Accord, then a 1990 or 1991, then a 1994 (that's the one I remember most) and the last one I remember him having was like a 2003 or so.

At work, we recently took in a 1991 Accord LX Sedan with 51k miles on it. One owner, old lady car with a lot of bumper rash, but otherwise very clean. It smelled like a funeral home inside, but the interior was spectacularly clean. We had it listed at $4495 and it sold in ONE day.

I almost drove it, but just as I was about to take it around the block, I had a customer show up so I had to park it back. That generation Accord was known for it's great visibility and go-kart feel. With it's low beltline and low dashboard, visibility was 2nd to none which made the driving experience fantastic.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
06-30-13, 01:13 PM
A few pictures of the fleet.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/The%20Accord/null_zpsc7215280.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/Chadillac8705/media/The%20Accord/null_zpsc7215280.jpg.html)

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/The%20Accord/null_zps20457231.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/Chadillac8705/media/The%20Accord/null_zps20457231.jpg.html)

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/The%20Accord/null_zps41273967.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/Chadillac8705/media/The%20Accord/null_zps41273967.jpg.html)

Aztec ETC ECS
06-30-13, 01:46 PM
But Fonda ain't got a motor in the back of her Honda... :D
"My anaconda don't want none unless you got buns hun."

What's with all the strokin' & pokin'? It's a new Honda.

Jesda
06-30-13, 06:16 PM
Nicely sculpted rear! (heh, heh)


My stepbrother has an 01 Accord coupe, black with those nifty NSX-inspired tail lights. It is, unfortunately, an auto and it sometimes shows the dreaded blinky lights, but it continues to chug along smoothly and quietly, feeling more like a Lexus than a standard car. I took it from St Louis to Denver and enjoyed the ride and V6 acceleration.

thebigjimsho
06-30-13, 07:11 PM
Nicely sculpted rear! (heh, heh)

My stepbrother has an 01 Accord coupe, black with those nifty NSX-inspired tail lights. It is, unfortunately, an auto and it sometimes shows the dreaded blinky lights, but it continues to chug along smoothly and quietly, feeling more like a Lexus than a standard car. I took it from St Louis to Denver and enjoyed the ride and V6 acceleration.

The 4 cyl and manual was just as good. So smooth...

ted tcb
06-30-13, 10:53 PM
Thanks, I know you're very Accord/Honda loyal, so I'll be interested to hear if you've ever driven one of these 9th generation Accords yet.



Chad, I belong to two Accord forums. One is a Toronto forum, which I used for their classified section.
The main group I used for advice on issues was http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1
O (http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=1)wning older Accords, this forum helped me with CEL's and small issues.

I guess I have owned a few Honda's ... 15 so far, mostly Accords and Preludes.

Last year, I owned a 2001 V6 with 50k, and an 04 EXL with only 20k.
Coming directly from a 2007 Camry, I felt the Accord had a much nicer, freer reving motor, better plastics, sportier handling, but also had higher NVH levels.

Directly comparing the 01 to the 04, I preferred the 01. Better soft touch materials, the best sight lines in the business, and I loved that little V6 engine. I also preferred the simpler controls on the 01. Honda put way too many small buttons on the dash of the 04. For eg., on the 01, there was a large round knob to switch the ventilation modes, located up high. On the 04, this dial was replaced with a miniscule button, located way down on the center cluster. Everytime I drove the car, I would hunt to find this button.
It never came naturally, never felt intuitive.
Too bad, that used to be a Honda trademark, intuitive controls, where a stranger could feel at home within a few minutes of driving the car.


I have yet to drive the current gen Accord, but I really want to. Every magazine article considers the new Accord to be the benchmark that other full size cars are judged.
I'm afraid I'll be lured into purchasing one, and I only buy used cars at this stage in life, trying not to incur car debt of any kind.
Problem with Accords is it's tough to find a deal on a used one ... retained value is too damn high.

orconn
06-30-13, 11:21 PM
^^^^ That's very true, I was just looking, for fun, to compare a 2008 DTS with moderate mileage with an Accord of the same mileage. The two cars were within a few hundred dollars of each other in price. I was surprised. When my son and I were looking to get him an Accord for college we looked a few used ones and decided, all things considered, it was better to lease him a new one.

ryannel2003
07-01-13, 12:24 AM
I paid $5k for my pristine Deville. Good luck trying to find a nice Accord of similar vintage for less than $8k in decent shape with the same miles!

Aron9000
07-01-13, 04:02 AM
^ I agree that used Hondas are for the most part a rip-off, especially at the bottom end of the market. People want(and get) $5,000 all day long for abused, not maintained, 10 year old pieces of junk with 150-200k miles on them.

thebigjimsho
07-01-13, 09:25 AM
How is it a ripoff when that's the actual value? Buy it, drive it and sell it yourself. Get your "ripoff" money back. What's the problem?

Aztec ETC ECS
07-01-13, 10:13 AM
Actual photo of me driving, taken with a film camera:
http://www.q45.org/jesda/moreroadtrip/scan0013.jpg
Were you really goin' 105 MPH or did you jack up the front & run it?

hueterm
07-01-13, 11:12 AM
Chad, the car looks great -- don't put more money into new wheels on a leased mid-level car. Use the money for something else.

Jesda
07-01-13, 12:28 PM
Were you really goin' 105 MPH or did you jack up the front & run it?

Was seeing when the fuel limiter would kick in. It finally did at 110mph. Took less time to hit triple digits than I thought!

Didn't do that for more than a moment since I was on standard tires.

96Fleetwood
07-01-13, 12:41 PM
Chad, the car looks great -- don't put more money into new wheels on a leased mid-level car. Use the money for something else.

Like Gears for the Marauder!

Congrats on the Honda. You didn't want a manual transmission? ;)

orconn
07-01-13, 02:00 PM
I agree with Jim, Honda 4 cylinders with stick shift are pretty slick!

I~LUV~Caddys8792
07-01-13, 02:41 PM
I wanted a stick, but they're only offered in the LX sedan in silver & grey, so no go.

No point in spending money on wheels. I'm too cheap!

orconn
07-01-13, 02:48 PM
^^^ Cheapness has its' merits when leasing cars!

thebigjimsho
07-01-13, 04:35 PM
Chad, the car looks great -- don't put more money into new wheels on a leased mid-level car. Use the money for something else.

Why? Spend anything you want on items that can be removed on either a lease or purchase. Being a lease doesn't matter at all.

orconn
07-01-13, 04:51 PM
Yeah, spend what you want on someone else's car, then remove it and since it doesn't look good on your subsequent car sell it on Ebay (for what ever it will bring!).

I agree with 96Fleetwood, spend it on the Marauder.

thebigjimsho
07-01-13, 05:00 PM
Sure, because everyone who buys a car keeps it forever. And, the cost of mods are never recouped upon sale.

Many people spewing opinions without numbers to back it up...

hueterm
07-01-13, 05:28 PM
He's NOT selling it -- he's giving it back to them. He wants this to be a no-hassle turn key operation, not buying wheels and then peddling them on eBay in 3 years. If he was going to go buy more expensive wheels and tires, then just get the Sport or EX model, include them in the lease, and be done with it.

(NOT -- that I'm suggesting you should have done that, Chad.)

There's nothing wrong w/these wheels. The 16s will ride smoother anyway.

DEEL WIH IT, EWE!!

thebigjimsho
07-01-13, 05:39 PM
He's NOT selling it -- he's giving it back to them. He wants this to be a no-hassle turn key operation, not buying wheels and then peddling them on eBay in 3 years. If he was going to go buy more expensive wheels and tires, then just get the Sport or EX model, include them in the lease, and be done with it.

(NOT -- that I'm suggesting you should have done that, Chad.)

There's nothing wrong w/these wheels. The 16s will ride smoother anyway.

DEEL WIH IT, EWE!!

No one told me not to buy wheels for my '01 Accord. I knew the Accord was to have something dependable for a few years and help rebuild my credit. I had it for just over 3 years. I had a set of Koenig wheels that I took off before trading it in. I had to get rid of them.

OH NO, THE HORROR!

No difference. Chad just knows he has his Accord for 3 years. I guessed I would have mine that long.

If anything, its MORE of a reason to get other wheels since you know you'll have the car. Many people buy a car and sell it quickly.

Either way, you sell the wheels afterward. Why you don't understand simple numbers is crazy to me. You're smarter than this...

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Chad can do what he wants. I would be looking for Sport wheels the second my pen lifted off of my signature.

truckinman
07-01-13, 06:48 PM
I can see both sides, but I wouldn't buy the wheels for a lease. Hell, I wouldn't lease, period. But to each his own. To me leasing is just an extended rental.

ryannel2003
07-01-13, 07:24 PM
No one told me not to buy wheels for my '01 Accord. I knew the Accord was to have something dependable for a few years and help rebuild my credit. I had it for just over 3 years. I had a set of Koenig wheels that I took off before trading it in. I had to get rid of them.

OH NO, THE HORROR!

No difference. Chad just knows he has his Accord for 3 years. I guessed I would have mine that long.

If anything, its MORE of a reason to get other wheels since you know you'll have the car. Many people buy a car and sell it quickly.

Either way, you sell the wheels afterward. Why you don't understand simple numbers is crazy to me. You're smarter than this...

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Chad can do what he wants. I would be looking for Sport wheels the second my pen lifted off of my signature.

A lot of guys on the BMW forums are doing this with new F30 3 Series so they don't have to worry about buying brand new run flat tires that have been known to wear out way before the lease period ends.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
07-01-13, 10:59 PM
Guys, I have no desire to get new wheels. The wheels on here are fine. I like the fact that these wheels have darkened inner spokes, it hides the brake dust. Jim is the one that keeps telling me to get the Sport wheels. They look better, but I don't want to (and can't justify) spending a ton of money on new wheels and tires.

I might not give the Accord back after the lease, I might buy it out.


OH! Also, I filled up the tank for the first time today, 31 MPG! NICE! Driving 325 miles cost me $35. Driving the same amount in the LeSabre would be about $45 and about $50 in the Marauder. All this driving was done around the cities, mostly back and forth to work.

thebigjimsho
07-01-13, 11:09 PM
I can see both sides, but I wouldn't buy the wheels for a lease. Hell, I wouldn't lease, period. But to each his own. To me leasing is just an extended rental.

If you had 8 months left on a lease, sure. But you're basing your premise on wheels for a leased car on the fact you hate leases.

Do the math. Suppose a set of runs and tires run you $1500 and the wheels are $1000. Throw the tires out as they'll be junk anyway.

If you buy $1000 wheels for a bought car, how much do you get extra for your car when its time to sell. Nothing. Maybe if the wheels really set up the car nicely at sale, you get it sold quicker. You don't get any money back. So, hopefully you still have the stock wheels. You then sell the wheels for maybe $500.

Chad just leased a car. He'll have it for 3 years, maybe longer. He has to send the car back with the stock wheels. So he sells them at lease end, for about $500.

How many people keep a car past 3 years? How many dont? Since he's forced to carry it for 3, he can use those wheels for 3. If he sells those wheels in 8 years on a buy, what does he get? Maybe $300?

However you slice it, if you buy and sell cars a lot, wheels would make no sense ON A BUY. He doesn't have to return the aftermarket wheels on a lease, so why not buy them?

77CDV
07-02-13, 02:56 AM
Question: why are y'all arguing over something Chad has no intention of doing? Silliness.

Jesda
07-02-13, 05:53 AM
This is interesting from a sales perspective:
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130701/RETAIL01/307019977#ixzz2XnFRwwWZ

Honda Accord has the lowest percentage of typically low-profit fleet sales and spends the least on incentives.

Hoosier Daddy
07-02-13, 09:09 AM
Question: why are y'all arguing over something Chad has no intention of doing? Silliness.
I think you're being a bit premature with only a few precincts' numbers in yet.

Jesda
07-02-13, 09:42 AM
"Dangling Chad" joke incoming!

I~LUV~Caddys8792
07-02-13, 09:57 AM
*puts on helmet*


But seriously, coming from a Nissan/Kia store to a Honda store is a complete 180* in terms of incentives. Both Nissan and Kia would do crazy rebates and discounts on almost their entire model lines and then knock off additional money if you finance through them and Kia would do a competitive bonus if you owned a car that was competitive with the Kia you were buying. Crazy factory discounts from both brands though.
Honda doesn't have to discount and incentive the heck out of their cars to move them.

talismandave
07-02-13, 10:33 AM
:horse:


I think this "bat CPR" is working! I saw his leg twitch.....

I~LUV~Caddys8792
07-04-13, 12:38 AM
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j313/Chadillac8705/The%20Accord/null_zps1b88dd8b.jpg (http://s83.photobucket.com/user/Chadillac8705/media/The%20Accord/null_zps1b88dd8b.jpg.html)

Brand new car in front of brand new work within brand new building. Seriously, that building was completed last October. It's a beautiful thing!

orconn
07-04-13, 12:57 AM
Looks like they could use some "brand new" customers.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
07-04-13, 01:00 AM
Hah, that picture was taken after close. :)