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NICE!! I just posted similar in the Lounge but your pics are bigger!

Awesome interior I am going to move this to the New Model discussion, i'll leae a link.


BEST INTERIOR EVER!

i like the interior and side profile but the front and back are ugly. Back of the car looks bare and the front of the car looks like SRX+Catera

it's alright but a bit too BUICK-ish

I actually like those interior pics quite a bit. The grille isn't as garish or nasty as that on the limo version either. Cadillac is doing some great things nowadays... :2thumbs:

It's grown on me... And I really like the interior...

Would somebody mind adding these to our Cadillac DTS Image Database (http://www.cadillacforums.com/photopost/showgallery.php/cat/3023/password/)?

it's alright but a bit too BUICK-ish

I'd have to agree, especially after seeing the interior of the new Lucerne

www.buick.com/lucerne/gallery.html

The interior is nice, but not enough differentiation from the Buick to the DTS.

Is the Lucerne the same chassis? It does have a similar looking interior, and a Northstar!

It's grown on me... And I really like the interior...

Would somebody mind adding these to our Cadillac DTS Image Database (http://www.cadillacforums.com/photopost/showgallery.php/cat/3023/password/)?



I think I just did, if it worked. :)

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Is the Lucerne the same chassis? It does have a similar looking interior, and a Northstar!

Yes, it is. I believe GM calls it the "G" platform. The old Seville, the LeSabre, the Park Avenue, and both generations of the Aurora were all G platform. As you can see from the interior shots of the Lucerne, the console, shifter, and steering wheel are all identical to the new DTS. And all but the outer cover of the instrument panel is probably the same.

I'm I the only one that sees the VW Phaeton in the Lucernes' rear end? And the roof line is yelling Infinit G35 to me.

Also, GM has been putting the front-drive version of the Northstar in versions of the Bonneville too.

Agreed to the Phaeton comment...didn't notice the G35 at first, though.

Sorry...this is getting off the DTS topic...

I think I just did, if it worked. :)

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Awesome. Thank you! :)

The front looks like a widened STS/CTS/SRX, and the rear looks like a Chevy Monte Carlo. The interior looks similar to the Buick but better IMO. What a shame, the DTS was the one Cadillac that had a nice interior.

I like it. It's A LOT less old-fartish. Now where was that $60k I had laying around......

Jim

I like it. It's A LOT less old-fartish. Now where was that $60k I had laying around......

Jim

Check under your mattress.

The 2006 DTS exterior looks a bit like a supersized Chevy Monte Carlo, with elements from the Opel (!!! :annoyed: !!!) Vectra. To make it short - the exterior is really, really ugly and not Cadillac like at all.

The interior design on the other hand is great.

Dear Cadillac folks - you've lost the battle in Europe already before it started.
But as we know you, you're not going to dare to pollute the European car market with your ugly pseudo-luxo DTS anyway.

You could top this only by putting a Cadillac batch on a Hummer H1.

By the way: In regards of exterior design - why don't you ask Lincoln to give you a training session on style and elegance?

A really disappointed Cadillac fan from Europe.

What will Cadillac call their models replacing the base Deville and DHS? Guess they will keep more than one level of style as before when the DTS was the upgraded sport model, and DHS the upgraded luxury model.
Anybody know?

Like the STS, the DTS is going to have several different models. But they'll all be called DTS. Somebody correct if me I'm wrong...

By the way: In regards of exterior design - why don't you ask Lincoln to give you a training session on style and elegance?



Yeah, cause those Lincolns are just flying off the showroom floors....

I just hope Cadillac knows what they're doing. I mean, the Deville is THE only classic cadillac that we have left. If you eliminate it, what are the old people going to drive? All of this alphanumeric naming systems and radical new "art & science" designs are nice, but i just hope cadillac doesn't forget thier roots and they don't forget who the majority of NEW cadillac buyers are (i.e. men over the age of 60):helpless: who are buying a cadillac BECAUSE its not like the other brands. I mean, whatever happened to AMERICAN LUXARY? its hard to be the "standard of the world" when you're chasing after lexus and BMW...

EDIT: You can tell Lutz your comments at his website:

http://fastlane.gmblogs.com/

He just put up an article on the new DTS and he likes comments, good or bad, about the new GM cars.

the base needs a hood ornament!
other than that Im in the minority that thinks it looks awesome in and out. It reminds me of a Cien and Sixteen mixed together in the front. It might be like ice cream and pizza, but I like it. The back is kinda 300ish. And the interior looks 9999999x better than that buick, even though its pretty much the same thing. But its a Cadillac, which means beefed up interior and real wood compared to buicks. The DTS looks more like the bling caddy and the STS is the european eater.
BUT
what is with the downgrade in power? what is this the 70s?

What? Now sales figures dictate good styling and elegance? I think not. High-volume sales is USUALLY the exact opposite of a high-end luxury car, isn't it?

The old Seville and Aurora were on the K platform

The front looks like a widened STS/CTS/SRX, and the rear looks like a Chevy Monte Carlo. The interior looks similar to the Buick but better IMO. What a shame, the DTS was the one Cadillac that had a nice interior.

As if the 05 STS doesn't have a nice interior?

What will Cadillac call their models replacing the base Deville and DHS? Guess they will keep more than one level of style as before when the DTS was the upgraded sport model, and DHS the upgraded luxury model.
Anybody know?

They should make a Sigma-based luxury model with a Northstar V-12 with styling the the 2003 Sixteen concept.

It looks ok, but every time I see the rear end of the car, all I can think of is the newer style V6 Monte Carlo. It has that same square, box looking rear end sort of. Found a picture of an SS. Subtract the spoiler,a dn change the tail lights, and it looks really similar I think.

As if the 05 STS doesn't have a nice interior?

I like the new STS interior quite a bit too (except the doors, which strike me as being out of place for some reason). The XLR interior is absolutely beautiful also. Pictures don't do it justice and it needs to be seen in person to be fully appreciated.

They should make a Sigma-based luxury model with a Northstar V-12 with styling the the 2003 Sixteen concept.

They are. An Ultra Luxury Sedan (ULS) is on Cadillac's 'to do' board.

Yeah, cause those Lincolns are just flying off the showroom floors....

:histeric: You beat me to it! If it weren't for the geriatrics buying Grand Marquis and Town Cars, that company would be in even worse trouble than it's already in!

In answer to the other question about trim levels, there will be several available, just like in the STS and CTS. 1SA will be your "base" model, 1SB "luxury" will be the equivalent of the 05 DHS, and 1SC "performance" will be equivalent to the 05 DTS (extra HP, firmer suspension, larger wheels/tires, etc..)

And just so you know, there WILL be an optional "bench" seat configuration (not a true bench, but a 40/20/40 split like the outgoing Deville) , just in case any of the oldies can't handle the center shift.

I really hope to use their brains and change that rear end before production. This suppose to be a Cadillac, not a Monte Carlo wannabe.

Most people havent even seen this car in person and they are bashing it on how it looks,if ur a real Cadillac fan like myself you will step away from the computer and go check one out up close in person,I did and I love it,most of the exterior is carryed over from the 2000-2005 model,I have an 05 DTS so i know what im talking about,if you put the cars side by side in the same color,they look almost alike.The car handles beautifully and the appearence will turn some heads,instead of bashing its looks go test drive it and have fun with it,i did.laterz!

I saw it in person at the NY Auto Show. It's an awesome looking car! If it was ugly, I'd say so, but it's not! Now the new STS, ehhhh.... not so hot looking. I'll keep my 2000 STS.

NOTE:Everyone is questioning and comparing the new DTS to the new Lucerne from Buick,If anyone does their daily automotive research like I do,they would have read that the new full-size Lucerne and the new DTS sedans are cousins,they are designed and built on the same chassis,and both have the same northstar V-8 engines so you do the math,The DTS comes available with more features than the Lucern,and the Lucerne is like an entry level version of the DTS.A real car enthusiast gets the info and checks this stuff out,not sits in front of his computer and look at the pictures all day (no offense)

iu think they should go back to their roots, and reinstate a fleetwood model.


What the **** ever happened to button tufted seats, and not leatehr you had to ebat it with a hammer...I wnat 2 tone, button tufted seats, a car with a domanding presence, some nice chrome tailfins and a standup hood ornament. Everything is too damn refined, luxury lost its place now. You need seats you sink into, not seats that just support you. You need pillowly luxury and a wheel you can turn with 1 finger. Soemtiems i miss my black pearl 87' fleetwood brougham....Put that next to a new Caddy and youll see what class is really about.


Im kind of sick of this new stuff

iu think they should go back to their roots, and reinstate a fleetwood model.


What the **** ever happened to button tufted seats, and not leatehr you had to ebat it with a hammer...I wnat 2 tone, button tufted seats, a car with a domanding presence, some nice chrome tailfins and a standup hood ornament. Everything is too damn refined, luxury lost its place now. You need seats you sink into, not seats that just support you. You need pillowly luxury and a wheel you can turn with 1 finger. Soemtiems i miss my black pearl 87' fleetwood brougham....Put that next to a new Caddy and youll see what class is really about.


Im kind of sick of this new stuff


Uh, that's because the definition of luxury has changed over the years, meaning ugly (IMHO) button tufted seats and chrome tailfins (actually nice) were nice ages ago, but have gone completely out of style and out of taste years ago. Years ago, a Caddy that was 20ft. long, weighed as much as a dump truck, got 8mpg, and had heavy chrome everywhere was a status symbol....not so today. Tastes have changed, styles have changed, and people have changed. Now you can have luxury (buttery leather, massaging seats, high end audio, etc.) AND handling AND power AND style, etc.--and that's what people want.

You need pillowly luxury and a wheel you can turn with 1 finger.

Hmm....again, while the pillowly luxury can still be had, I don't think it needs to go as far as cars being as floaty, bloated, and loose as something like a Fleetwood made its name on ever again....and I drive one!

RWD? Abso-positive-freakin-lutely! :yup:

I would prefer a more chiseled C-pillar. The rest is exquisite.

I really like what they did with the new DTS.

I saw a DTS in the Caddy showroom of the dealer I go to for major work the other day. Both my father and I agreed that it's a gorgeous car. It's really good that they put some chrome on it again. They put it as an accent at the base of the headlights and in the molding running down the side. I do agree that the back does look like the XLR though. Then again, it is the new style that they're changing over to. Soon I'll be throwing a link up that will have a ton of pics of my 99 SLS for all of you to see.
-Mac