: Soooo who's taken their CTS4 to the drag strip?



OMG
06-21-13, 02:34 AM
So there's this d-bag coworker of mine who's in love with his turbo 90's sentra. It's a real POS looking car but it does haul. Obviously he would win, but he wants to race on the street and that's just dumb. So I said f it. Great lakes dearest July lets go.

So just wondering who's done it, stock? What mods? I'm guessing it's going to pull 16 second 1/4 mile. Thinking I'm going to turn off AWD to see if there will be a difference.

Really don't care about the race. I've been want to have some fun and see if I can hit 100 at least with her for once.

So tell me about your stories!

gohawks63
06-21-13, 11:23 AM
So there's this d-bag coworker of mine who's in love with his turbo 90's sentra. It's a real POS looking car but it does haul. Obviously he would win, but he wants to race on the street and that's just dumb. So I said f it. Great lakes dearest July lets go.

So just wondering who's done it, stock? What mods? I'm guessing it's going to pull 16 second 1/4 mile. Thinking I'm going to turn off AWD to see if there will be a difference.

Really don't care about the race. I've been want to have some fun and see if I can hit 100 at least with her for once.

So tell me about your stories!

I don't recall where, but I think I read that the AWD really only results in a .1 second penalty in 0-60 times. It's more a function of the added weight as opposed to power required to drive the wheels. That's probably because the torque distribution varies.

OMG
06-21-13, 01:17 PM
I don't recall where, but I think I read that the AWD really only results in a .1 second penalty in 0-60 times. It's more a function of the added weight as opposed to power required to drive the wheels. That's probably because the torque distribution varies.

Which is really impressive considering from what I read here on the forum the AWD is almost 4300lbs vs the 3900lbs of the RWD. I'm guessing the went with more agressive gearing to make up for it which also explains the crappier gas mileage.

CTS4MATION
06-21-13, 11:41 PM
I recently watched a youtube video of a CTS running a high 14 14.8 maybe (cant recall) and I was pretty impressed.... however there was no description of the mods done to it.

Also....... ya cant turn off AWD...... or did you mean traction control?

If you're planning on running a 16ish of even 15ish kind of time, you wont be hitting 100mph in the quarter either.

OMG
06-22-13, 04:24 AM
I recently watched a youtube video of a CTS running a high 14 14.8 maybe (cant recall) and I was pretty impressed.... however there was no description of the mods done to it.

Also....... ya cant turn off AWD...... or did you mean traction control?

If you're planning on running a 16ish of even 15ish kind of time, you wont be hitting 100mph in the quarter either.

Dragtimes has a few times posted and they are all high 14's with the AWD 96-98MPH so yeah I won't be hitting 100. But for the RWD. It is possible. User RAB has posted many times about this you simply pull the AWD fuse, keeps all the saftey systems and it becomes 100% AWD.

RAB
06-22-13, 04:44 AM
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Also....... ya cant turn off AWD...... or did you mean traction control?
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Sorry CTS4MATION, but you can in fact turn off AWD. Pulling the all-wheel drive fuse causes the system to default to 100% full time rear wheel drive. That's one of the great things about the AWD system on the 2nd gen CTS. The mistake that Cadillac/GM made, imo, was not providing an AWD-RWD drivetrain mode switch inside the cabin.

EVH5150
06-22-13, 05:45 AM
Dragtimes has a few times posted and they are all high 14's with the AWD 96-98MPH so yeah I won't be hitting 100. But for the RWD. It is possible. User RAB has posted many times about this you simply pull the AWD fuse, keeps all the saftey systems and it becomes 100% AWD.

RWD 6-speed manual coupes are definitely the fastest out of the bunch.

I recently had a friend in my car who had that Dyno app on his I phone. For kicks we did a few runs with it and got some great times! 14.4@99mph and worst 14.6@97mph. I should point out this was not done at a real drag strip, so times could be better or worse all depends on track conditions; reaction time to tree, ripping off perfect shifts, etc. I will say I have driven stick almost all my life and therefore I certainly know all the various launching and shifting techniques used by many of those car magazine drivers/reviewers.

Joe
06-22-13, 01:53 PM
You can beat his ass. Personally i would leave the AWD in. Power brake that bad boy at about 4 grand and it will launch. Shift it manually and keep the rpms up to maximize horsepower. You probably wont come out of fourth and you will definitely tip 100. Have fun, but don't break it! low 14's for sure.

DMill
06-22-13, 04:06 PM
(skip) I should point out this was not done at a real drag strip, so times could be better or worse all depends on track conditions; reaction time to tree, ripping off perfect shifts, etc. (skip)Just an FYI ... reaction time has nothing to do with ET.

Click HERE (http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php?resultpage=2&carmodel=&data1=2008&op1=%3E=&data2=1000&op2=%3C=&search2=et&days=10000000&stock=1&dyno=&resultsperpage=10&carmake=7) for some ET's on DragTimes. Not quite as quick as my '98 Regal GS that I owned before our CTS.

EVH5150
06-22-13, 04:15 PM
Agreed. A POS Nissan Sentra don't make me laugh, this race shouldn't even be close. A 90's Sentra isn't even worth a couple hundred bucks, what a piece.
You can beat his ass. Personally i would leave the AWD in. Power brake that bad boy at about 4 grand and it will launch. Shift it manually and keep the rpms up to maximize horsepower. You probably wont come out of fourth and you will definitely tip 100. Have fun, but don't break it! low 14's for sure.

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Good point. That must have been a quick Buick. I consider anything in the 14's very quick for any type of upscale luxury car. Muscle type cars are a whole different animal of coarse so I am sure 13's should be the norm for them.
Just an FYI ... reaction time has nothing to do with ET.

Click HERE (http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php?resultpage=2&carmodel=&data1=2008&op1=%3E=&data2=1000&op2=%3C=&search2=et&days=10000000&stock=1&dyno=&resultsperpage=10&carmake=7) for some ET's on DragTimes. Not quite as quick as my '98 Regal GS that I owned before our CTS.

OMG
06-23-13, 12:48 AM
Agree that those 90's Sentras are POS's but their engines are very boost friendly. His LOOKS like a junker too, but I've risen in it and it will do 13's I'm pretty sure depending on how he hooks up. Not really all to concerned about beating him. I've had a faster car than him in the past and could've chose to have one again but chose the CTS as more practical alternative. Thanks for all the tips and advice guys I'll definitely post up pics and results when the day comes along.

Also if anyone here on the forum wants to join in feel free! It will be in the middle of July, most likely the 17th at Great Lakes Dragway in Wisconsin.

CTS4MATION
06-29-13, 02:14 AM
Sorry CTS4MATION, but you can in fact turn off AWD. Pulling the all-wheel drive fuse causes the system to default to 100% full time rear wheel drive. That's one of the great things about the AWD system on the 2nd gen CTS. The mistake that Cadillac/GM made, imo, was not providing an AWD-RWD drivetrain mode switch inside the cabin.

OK, by pulling a fuse.... I was thinking as if there were some magical OEM button/switch to do this that mine didnt have. However I was unaware about pulling the fuse..... Thats nice to know for sure!

OMG
06-29-13, 01:40 PM
I should correct he actually drives a 97 maxima. He's apparently going around asking others to come watch him kick my ads. Guy's a bigger tool then I thought. This should be fun.

EVH5150
06-29-13, 06:48 PM
I should correct he actually drives a 97 maxima. He's apparently going around asking others to come watch him kick my ads. Guy's a bigger tool then I thought. This should be fun.

That's almost as funny as a 90's Sentra. I think those came stock with a 3.0L 180-200HP, I could be wrong though. Not even close to the beauty that is the Cadillac CTS!

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I should correct he actually drives a 97 maxima. He's apparently going around asking others to come watch him kick my ads. Guy's a bigger tool then I thought. This should be fun.

You should tell him his POS is beneath you, and why would I risk my Beautiful Cadillac against such a piece LOL! Tell him he's bringing a knife to a gun fight lol.

jeffc83
06-29-13, 09:53 PM
That's almost as funny as a 90's Sentra. I think those came stock with a 3.0L 180-200HP, I could be wrong though. Not even close to the beauty that is the Cadillac CTS!

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You should tell him his POS is beneath you, and why would I risk my Beautiful Cadillac against such a piece LOL! Tell him he's bringing a knife to a gun fight lol.

More like a stick or rock to a gunfight...lol.

EVH5150
06-30-13, 04:11 AM
Ha ha ha! Nice one my friend, I can't believe the kind of money people dump in these sh-tty old dime a dozen type of cars. I just laugh when people talk about all that rice crap such as; my 1997 Maxima/Sentra has boost, CAI, stupid loud exhaust, and various silly stickers. The bottom line is we drive a mother F--king Cadillac! All that tuner sh-t is and should be beneath us.
More like a stick or rock to a gunfight...lol.

jeffc83
06-30-13, 10:45 AM
^^^ I hate it too. We get a lot of that around here...they just can't play with the big boys and their toys! lol

EVH5150
06-30-13, 06:42 PM
I hear you brother.
^^^ I hate it too. We get a lot of that around here...they just can't play with the big boys and their toys! lol

OMG
06-30-13, 10:00 PM
I asked him to confirm if he's still going and he said yeah but he's looking for a set of slicks. I'm like DOOD if you really have 400+HP as you claim and you need slicks to guarantee a victory against me you have other problems. I then busted his bubble to let him know that they won't let you run slicks against street. So now he's looking for Radials. LOL. As my other coworker said "you've been breathing too much exhaust fumes" (His turbo manifold had a crack and it was leaking into the car cabin. LOL)

gohawks63
06-30-13, 10:18 PM
I asked him to confirm if he's still going and he said yeah but he's looking for a set of slicks. I'm like DOOD if you really have 400+HP as you claim and you need slicks to guarantee a victory against me you have other problems. I then busted his bubble to let him know that they won't let you run slicks against street. So now he's looking for Radials. LOL. As my other coworker said "you've been breathing too much exhaust fumes" (His turbo manifold had a crack and it was leaking into the car cabin. LOL)

Slicks on the front wheels?

OMG
06-30-13, 10:42 PM
Slicks on the front wheels? Yup. Common with the high HP FWD cars (Cobalt SS and many modded civics). They just need something to make up for the lack of traction. But they also are limited because they can't go very wide. I've rode in his maxima. Between the turbo lag and the lack of traction he will need every advantage to not get embarrased.