: CTS pricing



BEarle
06-13-13, 12:53 PM
Starting at $46,000 for base and $59,000 for V-Sport. To me that's not a bad for this car, I just wish they made the V sport in AWD

Caddy Chris
06-13-13, 01:39 PM
In my opinion that is probably not a bad price for the car. However at $46,000 starting point that is $7,000 over the current model. I feel that may be a little too much and some buyers will be lost. I think a $4,000 or $5,000 higher starting price may retain more previous CTS owners. For me I will probably buy a 3.6 premium no matter what. The dealer will cut me a good deal eventually if I wait till next October and buy one off the lot. My current CTS stickered for $51000 so I am okay with paying $56,000 or so for the new one. Maybe going up that much in price will cause them to sell a $hit load of ATS's who knows. As a matter of fact I am still considering a ATS it is just fun to drive.

TrimThis
06-13-13, 01:40 PM
Where did you find these numbers?

ThunderGray34
06-13-13, 02:10 PM
List Price 2014 CTS
CTS RWD 1SC 2.0T Standard $45,100.00
CTS AWD 1SD 2.0T Standard $47,100.00
CTS RWD 1SE 2.0T Luxury Collection $51,000.00
CTS AWD 1SF 2.0T Luxury Collection $53,000.00
CTS RWD 1SN 3.6L Luxury Collection $53,700.00
CTS AWD 1SP 3.6L Luxury Collection $55,700.00
CTS RWD 1SG 2.0T Performance Collection $57,400.00
CTS RWD 2SJ 3.6L TT Vsport $59,070.00
CTS AWD 1SH 2.0T Performance Collection $59,400.00
CTS RWD 1SQ 3.6L Performance Collection $60,100.00
CTS RWD 1SJ 2.0T Premium Collection $61,800.00
CTS AWD 1SR 3.6L Performance Collection $62,100.00
CTS AWD 1SK 2.0T Premium Collection $63,800.00
CTS RWD 1SS 3.6L Premium Collection $64,500.00
CTS AWD 1ST 3.6L Premium Collection $66,500.00
CTS RWD 2SK 3.6L TT Vsport Premium $69,070.00

blankster
06-13-13, 04:09 PM
My 2010 3.6 AWD listed for 51 or 52K after GM lowered the price several grand because they could not sell them. $66,500.00 for a 2014 version? Are they nuts? For that money I would rather go for the Benz E350 for a few grand more.

Link2877
06-13-13, 04:44 PM
Where are you getting these numbers from ThunderGrey? Only the base prices for the standard 2.0 and 3.6TT have been released haven't they? Are these just best guesses or something?

rayainsw
06-13-13, 05:44 PM
http://media.gm.com/content/media/us/en/gm/news.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2013/Jun/0613-cts.html

blankster
06-13-13, 05:53 PM
Considering that the 3.6 AWD is a carryover powertrain from 2013, it must have Corinthian leather to justify those prices. :)

ThunderGray34
06-13-13, 06:49 PM
Where are you getting these numbers from ThunderGrey? Only the base prices for the standard 2.0 and 3.6TT have been released haven't they? Are these just best guesses or something?

Copied and pasted fom 2014 Model Year Vehicle Price Schedule, Effective With Start of the 2014 Model Year Production (gmpricing.com). No link, sorry.

jpenn
06-13-13, 07:15 PM
I can't say I'm surprised or disappointed with the price increases, the new CTS is a lot more car than the 2nd Gen. I bought my 09 premium loaded with everything except a spare in Nov of 08, it listed for $52K and they practically gave it to me. Not saying that will happen again but with the ATS positioned to compete with the 3 and C, the price of the new CTS is right where it should be to compete with the 5 and E.

I was at my dealership the other day and noted that the ATS sedan is practically the same dimensions as the 2nd Gen CTS. My next car will be a coupe and if it's not a CTS coupe I may very well consider the new ATS coupe. But I hope there will be a CTS coupe.

blankster
06-13-13, 07:39 PM
For me the back seat of the ATS is a bit cramped. From what I understand the 2014 CTS is 5 inches longer but the interior dimensions are the same or maybe a little less than the current generation which to me is a bit of a disappointment. I would wait 1 model year for an 8 speed trans on the AWD. But at 66.5K for the premium 3.6 AWD is a bit of a turn-off. Maybe after the introduction they will realize the same mistake GM made late 2009. The CTS was too expensive and they lowered the price about 3K. That prompted me to go with the 2010 I have now. I was really tempted to go with the MB E350 but the lowered price of the CTS sealed the deal.

Loveldos
06-13-13, 09:37 PM
The Standard Equipment for the 2014 CTS is now on the GM Online Fleet Order Guide at this link:

http://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NASApp/domestic/proddesc.jsp?year=2014&regionID=1&divisionID=5&type=0&vehicleID=14262&section=oi_def&page=7&butID=16

I have not found the 2014 CTS Sedan optional equipment (or inclusions along the steps of models--Base, Performance, Premium and V-Sport) listed anywhere yet. The 3.6L AWD Premium model interests me although it would be nice if it was a few grand less--I'll be curious to see the equipment level and the grades of leather upholstery offered. Also, it should be noted there are apparently two levels of equipment available on V-Sport models--with a $10,000 price difference! Therefore, the "best" V-Sport model is $69,000+ and only available as a RWD configuration. There also has not been any mention of Recaro seats availability.

Caddy Chris
06-14-13, 08:38 AM
So after looking at the break down of the trim level and the prices I am of the opinion that the new CTS is too expensive. I mean it appears to be more than an XTS so I'm not sure what GM is thinking here. The car did not gro in interior room even though it is 5 inches longer the 3.6 power train is no different than current model, yes it has cue and the digital dash and magnetic ride control does that justify such a huge price hike, sales will tell I guess. For that kind of money I will most certainly be looking at Mercedes too. I have been a loyal Cadillac customer for a while my wife and I both drive Cadillac's and one of the reasons was value for your money. I can afford it but I'm not sure the value is there.

rayainsw
06-14-13, 09:30 AM
If you 'Print Book' [ creates a .pdf = 114 pages ] from the Model Home,
there is additional information...

blankster
06-14-13, 10:23 AM
So after looking at the break down of the trim level and the prices I am of the opinion that the new CTS is too expensive. I mean it appears to be more than an XTS so I'm not sure what GM is thinking here. The car did not gro in interior room even though it is 5 inches longer the 3.6 power train is no different than current model, yes it has cue and the digital dash and magnetic ride control does that justify such a huge price hike, sales will tell I guess. For that kind of money I will most certainly be looking at Mercedes too. I have been a loyal Cadillac customer for a while my wife and I both drive Cadillac's and one of the reasons was value for your money. I can afford it but I'm not sure the value is there.

Good point. Im not sure the value is there also not only in terms of Cadillac resale, perceived value or in the dealer "experience". I have been fortunate to have had a good dealer but many on this forum had to deal with idiots from sales to service.

Lencarguy
06-14-13, 01:02 PM
I think Cadillac is going way overboard with this pricing. The base price for the 3.6 premium is an increase of $20K+ over the base price of the 2008 CTS 3.6 DI Premium that I had. While I am happy with all of the Caddys I have owned, I'm sure the corporate bean-counters have had their fingers in this new one as usual. People spending this kind of money expect to seen quality, even in hidden areas, and I'm almost positive GM has done some of the usual cheap-outs. I wish them luck, but you need more than a high sticker price to compete with the likes of BMW, Mercedes, and Audi. It is a beautiful car though.

blankster
06-15-13, 03:58 PM
Well today I ordered a 2014 Jeep Wrangler (a toy), so a 2014 CTS is out for now. The higher prices listed above sort of made that decision easier. Also if anyone knows about Jeep Wrangler resale, it's far better than Cadillac. I just sold my 2004 Wrangler that I bought used in 2008 for the same amount that I paid back then and I put 50K miles on it! Who knows maybe by the time the 2015 model comes around I'll just stick with the Jeep :) and sell my 2010 CTS.

BEarle
06-16-13, 08:34 PM
Jeep wrangler unlimited is a fun vehicle! My sister has one and its a blast

blankster
06-17-13, 09:04 AM
Here is some info on the 8 speed transmission supplied by Aisin which is a temporaty fix in the 2014 until GM delivers on its new transmission which was delayed due GMs financial problems:

http://www.sae.org/mags/sve/11942/

bruff1977
06-17-13, 10:48 AM
This is a pretty good deal considering what brands and models Cadillac is up against. The $10k question is what's the difference between the Vsport and Vsport Premium? #Sheesh

blankster
06-17-13, 02:38 PM
Corinthian leather!

swgyoooo
06-17-13, 03:36 PM
$70,125 for a fully loaded Premium 3.6 CTS4?? I know it might be competetive with the cars it is up against, but it is going to be shocking for the returning Cadillac customers. Not all CTS customers are going to feel right stepping "down" to an ATS.

rsingl
06-17-13, 08:11 PM
I have been very happy with my 2008 3.6 RWD premium package and was seriously considering an ATS replacement but decided I would miss the CTS. I followed the ATS forum for awhile and there certainly are a lot of issues showing up with it. None are "terminal" but a lot of them would certainly be annoying; especially the rough idle and stalling reported by numerous owners. At the CTS price point the launch and early QC needs to be better to justify the significant price increase.

The V sport is intriguing and will probably be the replacement for my 08 CTS but at that price I will also be looking closely at the offerings from BMW. I am not real excited about the short term use of the Aisin transmission and I am dubious whether the upgrades referenced in a previous post are sufficient to stand up long term to the 3.6TT and if a lot of torque management is programmed into the PCM to protect the 8 speed. I was planning to be an early adopter of the next gen but I think I am going to watch from the sidelines for awhile.

It would be interesting to know which 8 speed the Corvette C7 development team tested and destroyed after a few test runs. :)

TrimThis
06-18-13, 12:21 PM
I'm seeing a V-Sport loaded as the same price as a '13 V with 140hp more. Doesn't seem right to me. Every time I go in for service I always check out the V's. All seem to be in the 70-72 range. This car better be bad-ass to justify these new prices.

Chuck C
06-18-13, 09:58 PM
BMW 5 series and E Class msrp? Yes. Massive rebates and impressive lease deals? Not a chance with the Germans. Regarding the comparisons to the XTS, the 2014 is more sophisticated. Aside from price, it's mostly apples and oranges: on one hand, the 2014 CTS rides on the new Alpha long wheelbase FR platform while the XTS is built on GM's Epsilon II FF platform. This makes for totally different driving dynamics and appearance. Personally, I prefer the balanced, crisp handling and the athletic stance of a long wheelbase RWD vehicle like the 2014 CTS. The next time you see an XTS, just look at how the front window extends into the A pillar and how the front wheels wheels nearly meet the start of the front door. Then compare to the 2014 CTS where there is about a foot of space between the front wheel well and front door plus little front end overhang. To me, that's gorgeous. I hope people understand these fundamental differences when making comparisons at the dealership.

Bigplay
06-22-13, 04:47 PM
Way 2 much for the same v6 engine.

dan87951
06-26-13, 01:25 PM
lol I have a feeling Cadillac may be pricing themselves out of their core customers. A 4 cylinder CTS for almost 50k? laughable..

jv91
06-27-13, 02:00 PM
lol I have a feeling Cadillac may be pricing themselves out of their core customers. A 4 cylinder CTS for almost 50k? laughable..

the bmw 528 is 47....the 4 pot should have been 43-45

the 3.6 should have been 47-51

the vsport is at a good price point, compared to the 550 and the e550.

this is what cadillac should have aimed for