: Can you automatically close windows & sunroof?



rustybear3
06-11-13, 11:33 AM
I've checked the manual, and perhaps I'm missing it, but is there a way to automatically have the sunroof and/or windows close when you shut off car and exit? During nice days, it's easy to forget you have the sunroof open and it would be nice to have it close for you if one happens to forget when one exits the car in a hurry....:)

hood101010
06-11-13, 01:36 PM
...bcause this always happens to me too....and if there is not a way, is there a way to close the sunroof without having to get back in the car? From the fob or door handle maybe?

Cadillac Cust Svc
06-11-13, 06:46 PM
Hello rustybear3 and hood101010,

I apologize but I have checked through the owner’s manual as well and do not see anything regarding the sunroof automatically closing or being able to close them from the key fobs either. I will pass this along as something that people are looking for in their vehicles. If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to private message us and we will look into them. Thank you very much for your time.

Gregory W.
Cadillac Customer Care

pissedoffwookiee
06-11-13, 07:20 PM
VW and Audi cars do this, and XTS has the opposite, with an auto vent by holding the unlock button on the remote its on by default but can be toggled off with a techs scan tool, it seems to me that this could be easily done on ATS, with some programming hack, anyone have an idea why this wouldnt work?

rustybear3
06-12-13, 09:27 AM
The reason I asked this, is once I just plain forgot to close the sunroof; it was clouding up in the company parking lot and someone mentioned I'd forgotten about my sunroof.....rushed out and closed it just in time before the rains....what a disaster that would have been! :err: would be a nice option for dolts like me...

gohawks63
06-12-13, 03:25 PM
The reason I asked this, is once I just plain forgot to close the sunroof; it was clouding up in the company parking lot and someone mentioned I'd forgotten about my sunroof.....rushed out and closed it just in time before the rains....what a disaster that would have been! :err: would be a nice option for dolts like me...

I think the lawyers might have something to do with it. Can you see some parent leaving their child in the car. The child has his head or arm dangling outside of the window and sunroof and the parent happens to accidentally hit the fob to close the windows and somehow even if the anti-pinch feature worked, the kid has gotten a bruise or broken a finger. The lawsuits would come flying in.

mbk2010
06-12-13, 09:42 PM
I think the lawyers might have something to do with it. Can you see some parent leaving their child in the car. The child has his head or arm dangling outside of the window and sunroof and the parent happens to accidentally hit the fob to close the windows and somehow even if the anti-pinch feature worked, the kid has gotten a bruise or broken a finger. The lawsuits would come flying in.

Yes but how has Audi managed to have offered it for so long ?

gohawks63
06-12-13, 09:58 PM
Yes but how has Audi managed to have offered it for so long ?

Different risk tolerances among lawyers. Same reason why some manufacturers locked out the NAV while in motion and others didn't.

Fraggy
06-13-13, 12:46 AM
Different risk tolerances among lawyers. Same reason why some manufacturers locked out the NAV while in motion and others didn't.

So true.

rustybear3
06-13-13, 10:51 AM
I think the lawyers might have something to do with it. Can you see some parent leaving their child in the car. The child has his head or arm dangling outside of the window and sunroof and the parent happens to accidentally hit the fob to close the windows and somehow even if the anti-pinch feature worked, the kid has gotten a bruise or broken a finger. The lawsuits would come flying in.

Well, for that matter they could so called accidentally hit the back buttons on the console panel ( which is more likely scenario) and zip the rear windows on a kids fingers as well....but they have those capabilities of a driver remotely controlling all windows; could outlaw all automatic windows and go to manual hand cranks but they don't....they idea of a kid standing and hanging out a sunroof is the parent's irresponsibility and not the cars....I can't imagine a family exiting a car, leaving their kid in the car with his head and hands hanging out a sunroof or open window...I understand your point, but it's pretty extreme and you could easily disable such an option if it would be made available....really, you can sue over anything in today's modern automobile...even the CUE drawer automatically opening and closing could pinch a kids finger if he played with it...

Hoosier Daddy
06-13-13, 11:07 AM
Yes but how has Audi managed to have offered it for so long ?
They are German. Child safety is not a top priority. In Germany they even let witches lure kids with gingerbread houses so they can eat them.

gohawks63
06-13-13, 02:43 PM
Well, for that matter they could so called accidentally hit the back buttons on the console panel ( which is more likely scenario) and zip the rear windows on a kids fingers as well....but they have those capabilities of a driver remotely controlling all windows; could outlaw all automatic windows and go to manual hand cranks but they don't....they idea of a kid standing and hanging out a sunroof is the parent's irresponsibility and not the cars....I can't imagine a family exiting a car, leaving their kid in the car with his head and hands hanging out a sunroof or open window...I understand your point, but it's pretty extreme and you could easily disable such an option if it would be made available....really, you can sue over anything in today's modern automobile...even the CUE drawer automatically opening and closing could pinch a kids finger if he played with it...

I'm not defending it, just saying that you can't underestimate how much influence the lawyers have over some of the decisions made.

pissedoffwookiee
06-13-13, 02:50 PM
I think the lawyers might have something to do with it. Can you see some parent leaving their child in the car. The child has his head or arm dangling outside of the window and sunroof and the parent happens to accidentally hit the fob to close the windows and somehow even if the anti-pinch feature worked, the kid has gotten a bruise or broken a finger. The lawsuits would come flying in.

the auto close feature already built into our cars (when operated on the drivers door) already has the auto reverse anti crush built in (havent tested the sunroof but it has it too) so tieing it into the fob should be a matter of programming. the only thing i can think of that might get in the way is the rear windows auto down but not auto up, so the anti crush might not be in the back window to satisfy the lawyers

gohawks63
06-13-13, 02:57 PM
the auto close feature already built into our cars (when operated on the drivers door) already has the auto reverse anti crush built in (havent tested the sunroof but it has it too) so tieing it into the fob should be a matter of programming. the only thing i can think of that might get in the way is the rear windows auto down but not auto up, so the anti crush might not be in the back window to satisfy the lawyers

I think the anti pinch is on all windows.

rustybear3
06-13-13, 03:12 PM
I'm not defending it, just saying that you can't underestimate how much influence the lawyers have over some of the decisions made.


Yeah...I know.....I'm surprised they don't limit the heating capabilities of the seat warmer....next thing there will be a lawsuit on hot coffee......

thebigjimsho
06-15-13, 08:56 PM
They are German. Child safety is not a top priority. In Germany they even let witches lure kids with gingerbread houses so they can eat them.

Post of the Month...

73JPS
06-15-13, 10:09 PM
Post of the Month...

I am deeply disappointed: the Academy clearly did not give enough consideration to my post in "Why Doesn't the Luxury Trim come with Vertical Headlamps?" here: http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-ats-general-discussion-forum/288870-why-doesnt-luxury-trim-come-vertical-3.html

ontogenesis
06-21-13, 09:01 AM
I agree 100% with the ATS needing a key FOB sunroof/window vent option. I'm that guy that cruises around with the windows cracked, sunroof tilted and A/C on full blast just because I like the air movement. I also live in Florida, so it rains without notice for an hour and then it's bright and sunny. It would be really nice to be able to keep my interior temps down by cracking the windows and the rain out by shutting them, all through the key FOB...

Hoosier Daddy
06-21-13, 10:30 AM
I agree 100% with the ATS needing a key FOB sunroof/window vent option. I'm that guy that cruises around with the windows cracked, sunroof tilted and A/C on full blast just because I like the air movement. I also live in Florida, so it rains without notice for an hour and then it's bright and sunny. It would be really nice to be able to keep my interior temps down by cracking the windows and the rain out by shutting them, all through the key FOB...
With Rain-sense the car could close roof and windows if it rains and return them to previous location when it stops.

73JPS
06-21-13, 01:43 PM
With Rain-sense the car could close roof and windows if it rains and return them to previous location when it stops.


Is it my imagination, or have you been getting more acerbic the past few days? :histeric:

Hoosier Daddy
06-21-13, 03:43 PM
Is it my imagination, or have you been getting more acerbic the past few days? :histeric:
I think so, but I am serious about having rain sense close the top and windows if it rains when parked. It should be cheap to do and one ups the competition.

rustybear3
06-22-13, 09:49 AM
I think so, but I am serious about having rain sense close the top and windows if it rains when parked. It should be cheap to do and one ups the competition.

Nice idea...only problem is how would you get around having to power rain sense constantly (don't forget, engine is off) without battery drainage? I guess you might have to use some sort of capacitive storage device....

Hoosier Daddy
06-22-13, 10:53 AM
Nice idea...only problem is how would you get around having to power rain sense constantly (don't forget, engine is off) without battery drainage? I guess you might have to use some sort of capacitive storage device....
I don't know how much rain-sense draws. If the factory battery is borderline for continuous, they could also close things up and shut off rain sense before too much is used. And rainsense would only be needed when a window or roof were open and this option was turned on. All closed or option turned off and its not needed.

rustybear3
06-22-13, 01:09 PM
Nice idea...only problem is how would you get around having to power rain sense constantly (don't forget, engine is off) without battery drainage? I guess you might have to use some sort of capacitive storage device....


I don't know how much rain-sense draws. If the factory battery is borderline for continuous, they could also close things up and shut off rain sense before too much is used. And rainsense would only be needed when a window or roof were open and this option was turned on. All closed or option turned off and its not needed.


Should pass your idea along to Cadillac customer service rep......they used an idea of mine of adding stars to 3d Navigation in "night time" mode on the CUE update :)....ya never know...

KeithSTS
06-17-15, 09:22 PM
I had the sunroof closing feature in my 1999 STS. The sunroof control module was wired up somehow via a relay so that when I turned the key off, the sunroof automatically closed. So I suppose another relay sensed an absence of ignition power and closed the roof. Great feature, I loved it. Of course it's not available on my my new CTS which is 16 years newer. Called Cadillac or checked with dealer, came up with nada.

You can just imagine some knucklehead had his head sticking out of the roof, accidentally kicked the ignition key off and took his head clean off. Since it's 2015, this would have likely resulted in a lawsuit blaming GM (because nobody takes responsibility anymore for their own actions) and GM pulled that feature out of their vehicles. Sorry, I've become such a cynic in my old age. :D

duneless
06-17-15, 10:10 PM
VW and Audi cars do this, and XTS has the opposite, with an auto vent by holding the unlock button on the remote its on by default but can be toggled off with a techs scan tool, it seems to me that this could be easily done on ATS, with some programming hack, anyone have an idea why this wouldnt work?My old BMW from 2002 opened or closed the windows from the key fob. I also had it hacked to close the trunk from the fob. This shouldn't be that hard to get done IMO.

artscadillac
06-17-15, 10:48 PM
You can submit suggestions to Cad Cust Service.
It should be easy to have a program option to close
windows when car turned off, just like the options to
unlock doors or not when car turned off.

New Designers either drop some features or they fall through the
cracks. One cool first gen CTS feature was programable
buttons on the steering wheel to do what you wanted them to
do. They went away in CTS Gen 2.

Zarathos987
06-18-15, 10:07 AM
On my old 2000 528i, I used to be able to open all the windows and sunroof by holding down the unlock button on the fob. Believe it was pressing and holding lock to close everything. Great feature.



You can submit suggestions to Cad Cust Service.
It should be easy to have a program option to close
windows when car turned off, just like the options to
unlock doors or not when car turned off.

New Designers either drop some features or they fall through the
cracks. One cool first gen CTS feature was programable
buttons on the steering wheel to do what you wanted them to
do. They went away in CTS Gen 2.

C "T" ess
06-18-15, 12:18 PM
On my coupe, just like my last CTS coupe, the windows lower slightly when you open the door and raise again once the door is closed. I know this is done to ensure a good seal on a pillarless coupe
But it shows;at least that the technology is there and operates, so there is no reason why it couldn't be adapted to provide further travel.

GJB
06-18-15, 01:55 PM
You can just imagine some knucklehead had his head sticking out of the roof, accidentally kicked the ignition key off and took his head clean off. Since it's 2015, this would have likely resulted in a lawsuit blaming GM (because nobody takes responsibility anymore for their own actions) and GM pulled that feature out of their vehicles. Sorry, I've become such a cynic in my old age. :D

We need to reinstate natural selection so they can't reproduce, strengthen the gene pool before its too late.

duneless
06-18-15, 10:25 PM
Same with my 745li
On my old 2000 528i, I used to be able to open all the windows and sunroof by holding down the unlock button on the fob. Believe it was pressing and holding lock to close everything. Great feature.

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Yes yes let them murder them selves if they like. I would think if you owned a newer Caddy you have some type of a brain and wouldn't chop your head off. As for kids, well they haven't learned yet on life's obstacles and have to learn. I for one when I was 10 slammed my thumb in my fathers Delta 88 door. If you know the door is the size of some small compact cars. He heard me screaming ran out to unlock the door because I couldn't get my thumb out. My finger nail grows with grooved lines now. I can bet you I never did that again. Lesson learned and no sueing.

On another note those people that ruin it for others makes us look really good. So we still need those people around. You can't win either way though.

Smoke that TACKY to over look the dummies. Just sayin:canttalk:
We need to reinstate natural selection so they can't reproduce, strengthen the gene pool before its too late.