: Tires...



ddalder
06-03-13, 07:55 PM
Seems to be a constant topic of discussion here. Does anyone have experience with the Nitto Motivo? These were recommended to me by one of the shops I deal with. I'm looking for something quiet and comfortable. I have never been a big fan of the Continental brand, which some have reported success with.

Guy.Seminerio
06-03-13, 08:04 PM
Even though you pay a premium.. Michelin pilot sports are what I had on my 07 sts. Liked them a lot. Nice and grippy as well as quiet. Then not long before selling I had to change the rears. Went to Pirelli p6. Great tire but didn't have them long enough to really break them in. Still quite and very grippy. Obviously these were both all seasons. I had the 18inch rims. I would recommend either of these tires.

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Still quiet and very grippy. Should've proofread.

ddalder
06-03-13, 08:07 PM
I have the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus on the car right now and find them quite noisy. The reason I'm changing them is because the sidewalls have become deeply cracked. I always maintain recommended pressures so I'm not sure why this is happening. The tires are still 50-60% which is very disappointing. I've always been a big Michelin supporter but I'm also starting to see the same problem on my Bonneville. This also has the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus.

1BadCadSTS
06-03-13, 08:09 PM
Ive had 3 different sets since OEM Michelins

1st were Michelin A/S Sport Pilots, handled great, great looking tire, superb dry wet and snow traction, directional and asymmetrical so forget rotations, were worn out and rubber was peeling off (yes peeling and flaking off) them at 8k miles, complete junk.

2nd were Pirelli P Zero Nero, handled great, great dry traction very good in rain worked well with AWD in snow would not recommend for a RWD as snow though, asymmetrical so can be rotated left to right at least, lasted about 12k,

3rd and current are Continental Contact DWS, they have been on for 8k and still have 7/32 tread left, asymmetrical so can be rotated left to right, EXELLECENT wet and snow traction I went places my gfs Accord on a set of Blizzaks could not, the fault lies in their dry performance I push the limits of my STS on backroads where I live DAILY and these tires due to their soft sidewalls do not perform nearly as well as the A/S or PZeros I had on before but I also got tired of replacing tires every year so I made the sacrifice.

EChas3
06-03-13, 08:46 PM
I'm not as impressed with Michelin as I once was. In some cases, it seems like their quest for long life has had adverse consequences. A few years ago, Continental seemed an attractive choice. Times may have changed, again.

Guy.Seminerio
06-03-13, 10:37 PM
Wow I never had those issues with the michelins. That's exactly what I had the pilot sport all seasons. When I replaced the rear tires they were borderline dangerous bald. Still going strong. Something to do with the climate maybe?? Certain climates are not conducive to keeping tires for more than a couple of years due to drying out and cracking. Oh well.

orange57
06-04-13, 12:57 AM
How old are the tires? I have had some descent luck with touring michelins on another car. Currently I have the Yokohama YK580's and I like them. We actually got them on the wifes car first and I was so impressed put them on the STS when it was time.

ddalder
06-04-13, 01:15 AM
I had these Michelin tires installed on April 19, 2011. They currently have a total of 24,346 km (15,122 miles) since new. I have always believed that a person should never be cheap when it comes to tires, brakes, steering or suspension. These cost me about $1,100.00 installed and balanced. I never had this type of problem with Michelin until the last two sets. I'm not sure what's changed, but I'm not impressed (or happy).

Guy.Seminerio
06-04-13, 01:29 AM
I definitely agree on your comment about never going cheap on key components on the car especially where safety comes into play. Sorry the Michelins didn't work out for you.

Med_Phys
06-04-13, 02:34 PM
Another vote for the YK580

cooncat
06-04-13, 04:09 PM
I use the Kumho LX Premium. They are the touring grade. The seem to have a relatively long life. They are rated for 60,000 miles. They have smooth, quiet and grippy ride.

is3_ftw
06-09-13, 01:09 AM
I never liked the kumho tires. When I had them on my 93 intregra, they lost grip and became noisy at 60% tread life. My IS300 came with Michelins, but the price turned me away when i had to replace them. Then continental DWS came into my life. I drive my RWD IS300 to the mtns in the snow to snowboard. And it rains here in WA 9 months out of 12 and they haven't let me down. I'm on my 2nd set on the rear after 3 yrs and I drive 25k a yr. Fronts are now starting to show their time to be replaced.
Tire rack dot com and discounttiredirect dot com are the best prices that I found.

Not familiar with the Nittos u were recommended, but Nitro Neo Gens are good summer but bad tread life
Good luck with whatever tire u get. Let us know which brand u went with

ddalder
06-09-13, 04:23 PM
Nitto lists the Motivo as a "All Season Ultra High Performance Radial" with a limited tread wear warranty of 60,000mi/100,000km. They claim to rate very high in ride comfort, wet performance and quietness but dry performance is slightly below their top rating (UTQG Treadwear: 560, Traction: A, Temperature: A). Given my driving style, and what I'm looking for, these will work well for me if they are what they claim to be. More than likely I'll be putting on a set of dedicated winter tires when the time comes.

is3_ftw
06-09-13, 09:11 PM
Sounds like a winner with UTQG specs.

malatu
06-10-13, 02:25 PM
I definitely agree on your comment about never going cheap on key components on the car especially where safety comes into play. Sorry the Michelins didn't work out for you.

Never skimp on your shoes, tires or mattress!

Guy.Seminerio
06-11-13, 12:57 PM
Toilet paper too. Charmin ultra soft all the way.

EChas3
06-11-13, 10:05 PM
The joys of life!

C&C
06-12-13, 06:02 AM
I'm currently leaning towards the Conti's DWS, but since I'm not in immediate need (of tires), I'm going to give the new Michelin Pilot Sport A/S-3 a look when they come out this summer (early reviews say they are at the top of the heap) but being Michelins they'll probably be pricey.

EChas3
06-12-13, 09:14 PM
One of life's ironies...

Excepting commodities, at the top of a price range small improvements in quality often command a lot higher price. At the bottom, saving just a few bucks can take you from a fair value to junk. Do your homework.

MikesCaddy06
06-17-13, 03:21 PM
Hello everybody....just bought an 06 STS4 w/ 70000 miles on her in March, and one of the first things I had to do was replace those horrible Michelin tires!! Overpriced and have zero treadlife, that's a fact! After a few weeks of research I decided on the Bridgestone serenity plus tires. If anyone out there is in the market for tires I would highly recommend these!! After installation the difference in the ride was night and day....smooth, responsive, great price, and great performance. Picked these up at tire rack btw for just under $700 shipped for all four! IMHO these are the best grand touring tire, and offer 65,000 miles of treadlife. If you ask me I would say "Bridgestone all th way!"

DarkMingBlueSTS
06-17-13, 04:45 PM
Hello everybody....just bought an 06 STS4 w/ 70000 miles on her in March, and one of the first things I had to do was replace those horrible Michelin tires!! Overpriced and have zero treadlife, that's a fact! After a few weeks of research I decided on the Bridgestone serenity plus tires. If anyone out there is in the market for tires I would highly recommend these!! After installation the difference in the ride was night and day....smooth, responsive, great price, and great performance. Picked these up at tire rack btw for just under $700 shipped for all four! IMHO these are the best grand touring tire, and offer 65,000 miles of treadlife. If you ask me I would say "Bridgestone all th way!"

I have those same tires and I like them too but that's what has been on my car since I bought it

Guy.Seminerio
06-17-13, 08:04 PM
Is it noticeably quieter?

MikesCaddy06
06-18-13, 05:15 PM
Is it noticeably quieter?

Much quieter, and noticeably softer.

Guy.Seminerio
06-18-13, 05:16 PM
Thanks

MikesCaddy06
06-19-13, 01:12 AM
Seems to be a constant topic of discussion here. Does anyone have experience with the Nitto Motivo? These were recommended to me by one of the shops I deal with. I'm looking for something quiet and comfortable. I have never been a big fan of the Continental brand, which some have reported success with.

The Bridgestone Turanza serenity plus tires are quiet and comfortable. They also got better reviews than the Conti's, at a slightly lower price without the compromise of quality!


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Guy.Seminerio
06-19-13, 09:05 AM
Are they also aggressive and grippy for someone who likes to play in the twisties and what not?

oldcaddybuyer
06-22-13, 01:43 PM
Bridgestone Turanza Serenity Plus

+1

fly187
02-13-14, 12:13 PM
Beyond pleased

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Turanza+Serenity+Plus&partnum=35VR7TSP&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Cadillac&autoYear=2006&autoModel=STS V6 AWD&autoModClar=235/50-17

1BadCadSTS
02-13-14, 02:02 PM
Dad has turenzas on his 07 I have dws on my 05. Both awd v8s. His pulls better in hard turns (even with my v sway) but mine will take snow better.

cadillacmike68
02-13-14, 11:06 PM
My Kuhmo Ecsta LX Platinums have been wearing well. Over 20,000 miles with less than 1/2 the tread gone. W rated to make full of the Northstar's top end. Ples they have a substantial bead ridge that protects the edge of the wheel.

When the V rated Michelins finally wear out on my wife's 2011 she is getting Kuhmo's. I don't want those $3,000 chrome wheels on her car to get scuffed up.

Guy.Seminerio
02-14-14, 01:15 AM
Dad has turenzas on his 07 I have dws on my 05. Both awd v8s. His pulls better in hard turns (even with my v sway) but mine will take snow better.

Compare the noise. Or is it negligible.