: Anyone wonder about this sale



drdsgolf
01-25-05, 01:05 AM
Saw this tonight on carsdirect.com. Any thoughts???

http://www.carsdirect.com/used_cars/listings/vehicle_detail_prem?listing_id=12393271&search=ee1c8f5a2422be83b19a6ed2687faa1e-143976865-12393271-dealer_referral_vehicle&zipcode=95124

ds

wildwhl
01-25-05, 01:12 AM
:hmm: Seems to good to be true (so it probably is)? :hmm:

Vrocks
01-25-05, 01:52 AM
If the vehicles title is "clean" and everything works perfectly... Buy it!
Obviously, something must be wrong with the car, or the seller needs $21,000 (fast). :hmm:
Perhaps the person is getting divorced and they want the money and not the car?

Silver1
01-25-05, 04:00 AM
I wrote to the seller. I'll let you know what-if anything-Ihear from them.

SBONES
01-25-05, 08:29 AM
I payed over 50 for mine. All this does is make me think i got ripped. Ive already saw them new for 45. You would think that they would have one set price.:ripped:

6104696
01-25-05, 09:44 AM
I payed over 50 for mine. All this does is make me think i got ripped. Ive already saw them new for 45. You would think that they would have one set price.:ripped:

trust me you have not been ripped. The bast majority of us paid sticker price, or within 10% north or 10% south of that. Resale on cads has been poor in recent years, but used v's are routinely going for $40+. There has got to be a story here.


Caddy does set one price: dealer invoice (minus holdback). All dealers pay the same for the cars (give or take some performance incentives). Dealer prices cannot legally be controlled by the manufacturer.

Resale prices are, thankfully, a free-for-all. We'll get to the bottom of this one (or I will buy the car as a spare!).

Doug

homer403
01-25-05, 11:18 AM
Don't feel bad, I paid $50K for mine and have no regrets... just add more :drinker :drinker :drinker

Stag
01-25-05, 12:01 PM
My expereince with car adds like that is that they claim it was a typo or a misprint. Typical bait and switch...BAH...However, if it is legit, don;t do anything...PM me and I will invetigate thoroughly by purchasing the car and test driving it for 3 or 4 years :D

Stag
01-25-05, 12:02 PM
Double Post - Sorry

Rickerbucks
01-25-05, 12:12 PM
I bet it is a typo.

the number "2" key is right under the number "5" key on the number pad.

Silver1
01-25-05, 04:31 PM
It's been over 12 hours since I emailed them. No reply. Probably a scam...

drdsgolf
01-25-05, 06:32 PM
I emailed them last night and heard nothing back. I'm sure it's either phony or they will claim a misprint. Out of curiosity I have been looking at V sales. It appears your best buys are on eBay Motors, but that involves shipping etc. No one is getting this car for $21,000 unless Jules and Vincent (Samuel L. Jackson and John Travolta in Pulp Fiction) blew up that poor kid in the back of this car.

ds

pimpcaddy
01-26-05, 02:32 AM
This is the reply that I received. The thing about UK made me think of scam. I will report back as I learn more.

redsyclone

Thank you for your interest in purchasing my car.
The vehicle is in good condition, has no technical damage at all, no
scratches or dents, no hidden defects, kept in our own garage. It's fun
and
robust to drive.
My father, who died 1 month ago was the first owner of the car.
The car is an US model with US specs, technical inspection and
emissions
testing is passed and stamped as well.
It has a US title of ownership, cleared of any obligations or fees and
comes
with all the documents you need to register the item. 2 years
international
warranty available.
I must inform you that currently I'm in UK. I didn't bring it here with
me
because the car's steering wheel is on the left side, and so it's
difficult
driving it around the UK.
The car is now located at the CarsDirect warehouse in Denver, Colorado.
The
car will be shipped and insured by CarsDirect.
CarsDirect will act as a 3rd party for our transaction. You will not
have to
pay additional taxes for this.
To be able to receive or pick up the car you'll have to make a
$3,000.00
deposit.
After you inspect the car if anything seems wrong you'll be able to
receive
a refund from CarsDirect.
Please send me your full name and shipping address to forward them to
CarsDirect. They will contact you with more details.
Thanks for your interest, please feel free to email me any questions or
concerns you may have.

erp2863
01-26-05, 03:05 AM
Usually the UK thing is a scam. I've seen a ton of low mileage sport bikes on ebay selling for cheap all based in the UK. I'd be wary.

If anything maybe he thought he was posting 21k british pounds, which would be about $40kUSD.

Eric

turbojimmy
01-26-05, 06:15 AM
SCAM!

There is no "Carsdirect" warehouse. Carsdirect will laugh at you if you try to get a refund from them. Carsdirect will not act as a 3rd party to the transaction. They're just a site to place an ad (they do assist in NEW "car buying", but that means they point to to a dealer with whom they've established a "relationship").

I'd forward that e-mail right to carsdirect.com - the ad will be gone faster than the blink of an eye.

Jim

trukk
01-26-05, 01:48 PM
If you want, you can pay me $2,500 to come and look at my car :)

-Chris

Silver1
01-26-05, 03:14 PM
Definitely a scam! I used the Live Advisor feature at CarsDirect. This is the answer I got.

"unfortunately, the ad that you are interested in is a scam. we do not have a warehouse that stocks used vehicles. please disregard this ad"
Another, too-good-to-be-true adventure!:hide:

onebadcad
01-26-05, 03:29 PM
Definitely a scam!!! I had someone in my office send an e-mail and the reply they received was that the seller is in Rome, the car is in California and advised would not bring car to Europe, as Europeans do not like its style-give him points for creativity.

:lies:

6104696
01-26-05, 03:39 PM
Now I see there is a black/black one for $15K. http://www.carsdirect.com/used_cars/listings/vehicle_detail_prem?listing_id=12411537&search=ee1c8f5a2422be83b19a6ed2687faa1e-144317312-12411537-dealer_referral_vehicle&zipcode=95124I think somebody should send them the $3k and see what happens. Not me of course...but perhaps one of the millionaires out there that can afford to lose the $$ :lildevil:

drdsgolf
01-26-05, 03:45 PM
I got the same email back. How could it not be a scam. Why would you sell a $45,000 car for $21,000.
ds

pimpcaddy
01-28-05, 11:21 AM
Payment instructions for
******************************************
AMOUNT to be wired: USD $2,900.00

The transfer should be completed within the next 48 hours.

Payment details:
First Name: Lula
Last Name: Fortner
Address: 100 Herne Hill, London SE24 9QP, UK.

Once the payment has been sent, email us the following information to our email: carsdirect@carsdirectpayments.com.

1) 10 digit MTCN (Money transfer control number).
2) Exact sender's name on file with Western Union.
3) Your street address on file with Western Union.
4) City and state where you sent the money from.
5) Amount sent.

After we receive the deposit payment confirmation the car will be shipped for inspection to your location by Carsdirect.(NO EXTRA CHARGES).

If the car does not correspond to your expectations and seller description, a Carsdirect team will come to pick-up the vehicle within 5 business days, offering you a full refund for the paid deposit.

To submit the payment with Western Union Money Transfer, you have to:

Pay for the transfer with cash at a local Western Union agent. Click here to locate the agents in your area http://www.westernunion.com/info/agentInquiryIntl.asp. Go to one of them and send the payment to the verified name of the seller, available to London, UK. (ONLINE transfer is limited to USD $1,999.00)

Because the fee to send a Western Union Money Transfer is high, compared to other methods of payment, we have arranged with the seller to compensate for this fee (i.e. if it costs you $100 to send the payment, take $100 from the amount insured and send the balance).

Then wait for the confirmation the payment was received. Within 3 business days, you will receive the tracking number for your car.

For any kind of questions regarding the payment please feel free to contact us at: carsdirect@carsdirectpayments.com.

Sincerely,

Sarah Gibson,
CarsDirect.com
http://www.carsdirect.com

************************************************** **********
****You may reply to this email.****

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If you choose to buy a new car online through CarsDirect, a Vehicle Specialist will contact you quickly.

If you prefer to buy from a dealer, we will match your needs with a member of our authorized dealer network near you. Your VIP dealer representative will work with you to find your vehicle and negotiate a low price.

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pimpcaddy
01-28-05, 11:23 AM
We have the vehicle 2004 Cadillac CTS-V at CarsDirect warehouse in Denver, Colorado. The car was inspected and insured by CarsDirect.
You will be allowed to buy or inspect the car when the payment of USD $2,900.00 refundable deposit by Western Union Wire Transfer will be completed in the name of seller Lula Fortner.
When the wire transfer is completed you will have to send us the transfer details for validating the shipping. The transfer details become confidential and we will release it only when the car arrives and you are fully satisfied with it.
The car will be shipped in just 3 business days from the day after we receive the payment confirmation from you.
If the car does not correspond to your expectations and seller description, a Carsdirect team will come to pick-up the vehicle within 5 business days, offering you a full refund for the deposit. For more questions please contact your seller or contact us by e-mail: carsdirect@carsdirectpayments.com (http://us.f806.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=carsdirect@carsdirectpayments.com).

Transaction ID: GF1322187USA

Total price: USD $21,000.00 (shipping and insurance included)

Amount to be wired: USD $2,900.00 (will be deducted from the total amount)

Please complete the payment by WESTERN UNION WIRE TRANSFER for:
First Name: Lula
Last Name: Fortner
Address: 100 Herne Hill, London SE24 9QP, UK.

*For this you have to go personally at any Western Union store.

*The seller accepted to cover all the Western Union transfer fees.

After you complete the payment please send the Western Union transfer details by our e-mail : carsdirect@carsdirectpayments.com (http://us.f806.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=carsdirect@carsdirectpayments.com).

Please write in your e-mail subject: Deposit payment from YOURNAME.

Please send us the following details:

1) 10 digit MTCN (Money transfer control number).
2) Exact sender's name on file with Western Union.
3) Your street address on file with Western Union.
4) City and state where you sent the money from.
5) Amount sent.



Car status: INSPECTED

Car details :

Cadillac CTS-V


Car condition: Very good
Miles: 248
Doors: 4 doors
Transmission: Manual
Interior: Tan
Exterior: Silver
Year: 2004
Warranty: Existing (3 year) / 50,000 mile Service Agreement
VIN Number: 1G6DN57S140182775
Title: Clear
Condition: Used
Inspection: Yes
Engine: 8 CYLINDERS 5.7 Liters

Seller description was verified by our specialists.

Vehicle description status: VERIFIED

We will reply with details within 24-48 hours after receiving the payment confirmation e-mail from you.

For any questions please contact your seller or CarsDirect by e-mail: carsdirect@carsdirectpayments.com

Sincerely,

Sarah Gibson,
CarsDirect.com
http://www.carsdirect.com (http://www.carsdirect.com/)



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***You may reply to this e-mail.***

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CarsDirect.com is the best place to buy new cars online. We offer low, no-haggle prices and have a huge selection of new and used cars. To find the guaranteed CarsDirect price for any new vehicle, begin by selecting the make and model in the drop-down menus above.

If you choose to buy a new car online through CarsDirect, a Vehicle Specialist will contact you quickly.

If you prefer to buy from a dealer, we will match your needs with a member of our authorized dealer network near you. Your VIP dealer representative will work with you to find your vehicle and negotiate a low price.

You can also search for used cars at CarsDirect. Need to sell your car? List it on CarsDirect.com, where it will be available to more than 6 million car shoppers every month.

Thousands of happy customers buy cars through us every month. Who knew it was so easy to buy new cars online?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What's new at CarsDirect.com?

Newsletters ( http://www.CarsDirect.com/mycars/signin (http://mail.yahoo.com/config/login?/_javascript:ol%28%27http://www.carsdirect.com/mycars/signin%27%29;))
If you haven't already subscribed to the CarsDirect.com newsletter,
sign up today to get updates on new models, hot tips on rebates and
incentives, and more valuable car-shopping information. Simply sign in to My
CarsDirect and click on the "Newsletter" tab.

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Visit the CarsDirect.com Research Center, where you'll find vehicle
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6104696
01-28-05, 11:23 AM
Payment instructions for
******************************************
AMOUNT to be wired: USD $2,900.00

The transfer should be completed within the next 48 hours.

Payment details:
First Name: Lula
Last Name: Fortner
Address: 100 Herne Hill, London SE24 9QP, UK.

Once the payment has been sent, email us the following information to our email: carsdirect@carsdirectpayments.com.

1) 10 digit MTCN (Money transfer control number).
2) Exact sender's name on file with Western Union.
3) Your street address on file with Western Union.
4) City and state where you sent the money from.
5) Amount sent.

After we receive the deposit payment confirmation the car will be shipped for inspection to your location by Carsdirect.(NO EXTRA CHARGES).

If the car does not correspond to your expectations and seller description, a Carsdirect team will come to pick-up the vehicle within 5 business days, offering you a full refund for the paid deposit.

To submit the payment with Western Union Money Transfer, you have to:

Pay for the transfer with cash at a local Western Union agent. Click here to locate the agents in your area http://www.westernunion.com/info/agentInquiryIntl.asp. Go to one of them and send the payment to the verified name of the seller, available to London, UK. (ONLINE transfer is limited to USD $1,999.00)

Because the fee to send a Western Union Money Transfer is high, compared to other methods of payment, we have arranged with the seller to compensate for this fee (i.e. if it costs you $100 to send the payment, take $100 from the amount insured and send the balance).

Then wait for the confirmation the payment was received. Within 3 business days, you will receive the tracking number for your car.

For any kind of questions regarding the payment please feel free to contact us at: carsdirect@carsdirectpayments.com.

Sincerely,

Sarah Gibson,
CarsDirect.com
http://www.carsdirect.com (http://www.carsdirect.com/)

************************************************** **********
****You may reply to this email.****

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

CarsDirect.com is the best place to buy new cars online. We offer low, no-haggle prices and have a huge selection of new and used cars. To find the guaranteed CarsDirect price for any new vehicle, begin by selecting the make and model in the drop-down menus above.

If you choose to buy a new car online through CarsDirect, a Vehicle Specialist will contact you quickly.

If you prefer to buy from a dealer, we will match your needs with a member of our authorized dealer network near you. Your VIP dealer representative will work with you to find your vehicle and negotiate a low price.

You can also search for used cars at CarsDirect. Need to sell your car? List it on CarsDirect.com, where it will be available to more than 6 million car shoppers every month.

Thousands of happy customers buy cars through us every month. Who knew it was so easy to buy new cars online?

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What's new at CarsDirect.com?

Newsletters (http://www.carsdirect.com/mycars/signin)
If you haven't already subscribed to the CarsDirect.com newsletter,
sign up today to get updates on new models, hot tips on rebates and
incentives, and more valuable car-shopping information. Simply sign in to My
CarsDirect and click on the "Newsletter" tab.

Incentives & Rebates Center
(http://www.carsdirect.com/researchcenter/incentives_search)
Save up to thousands of dollars with manufacturer incentives and
rebates.

Research Center (http://www.carsdirect.com/research/new_cars)
Visit the CarsDirect.com Research Center, where you'll find vehicle
reviews, comparisons, safety info and more.
:histeric:

Sandy
01-28-05, 12:07 PM
I think it would be cool to complete the transaction using fake money.
Fake money for a fake advertisment for a fake car. Seems right, no?

trukk
01-28-05, 12:35 PM
You need to send back a reply like this:

"I'm sure I want the car, no need for an inpection. Out of the kindness of my heart, because I'm such a CTS-V enthusiast, I will pay you an additional 5,000 above your asking price to avoid having to wait for the inspection. Please have the cardsdirect warehouse send the vehicle to me directly, along with a signed title. I will then wire you the cost of the vehicle, plus the extra 5,000.

On a side note, I have an uncle in Nigeria. He was the minister of Finance, untill their recent civil war. During that timeframe he was able to 'accumulate' a sum of 47,000,000 in gold bullion. Unfortunatley he is now imprisioned in the counrty, but was able to get the chest of gold out to a swiss bank vault. For safetly reasons, I can not go to retrive this money, as I am directly related to him.

I propose that you go to switzerland, to retrieve this for my familly. In return, my familliy will compenate you 10% of the total value, or 4.7 million US dollars.

All you need to do is wire me 2,900 US dollars, to start the paper work.

I thank you again for such a great deal on the car, and look forward to getting my familly fortune back !!

Talk to you soon"

I'd love to see the reply to that one

pimpcaddy
01-28-05, 12:38 PM
I will keep everyone posted as to which e-mail that I end up sending the seller. I thought about saying that I will be in Denver, so no need to ship the vehicle. Ha, ha. But I do like the Nigerian Uncle angle.

Best regards.

Dave

drdsgolf
01-28-05, 05:15 PM
I've had several of the Nigerian uncle emails. I like your idea.

ds

gparmlee
02-02-05, 12:41 PM
Whos looking for a used CTS-V? contact me glenn@geco1.com