: Chevy Cobalt SS: Is it Rice or Nice?



HotRodSaint
01-22-05, 11:16 AM
http://www.chevrolet.com/i/gallery/cobalt/ext_gallery01.jpg

HotRodSaint
01-22-05, 12:11 PM
The LS wing for reference.

http://www.chevrolet.com/i/gallery/cobalt/ext_gallery04.jpg

slk230mb
01-22-05, 12:25 PM
It's a bit high, but not that bad. Give someone a few weeks and it will be all riced out.

CoupeDevilleRob
01-22-05, 01:08 PM
It's defiantely got rice potential, but that's probably what Chevy is going for. Anyway, it's a huge improvement over the Cavalier.

HotRodSaint
01-22-05, 02:29 PM
It's defiantely got rice potential, but that's probably what Chevy is going for. Anyway, it's a huge improvement over the Cavalier.

I agree.

I think the Cobalt SS is a home run hit directed into Hondas field.

DopeStar 156
01-22-05, 02:39 PM
Chevy's move was to steal customers away from Honda, which I greatly approve of. If only they would weld all the exhaust components together so no one could add those stupid tailpipes to it.

K2K
01-22-05, 03:32 PM
While I would pick Chevy over Honda any day...

the SS does only have, what, 205 HP?

majax
01-22-05, 08:14 PM
Yeah I think thats what it has and a little supercharger right? maybe not.


I don't know if Rice is a term usable on an American car. I mean you can do things to it that ricers do but I think it should be called something else. Also that car has power so that disqualafies it pretty much from rice.

RBraczyk
01-22-05, 08:15 PM
Its a supercharged four thats designed to rival the Saturn Ion Redline.

Night Wolf
01-22-05, 08:24 PM
2.0 Ecotec (de-stroked from 2.2L) supercharged... the SS is pretty fast...

nice cars too.. I like the LS wing better though...

evilrussian
01-23-05, 11:46 AM
I like it, it's a "hot rod" of a 21st century. I still think that blower is not the answer, though, turbo would be a little better. I think it was meant to compete with SRT4 more than with Honda.

Rolex
01-23-05, 04:31 PM
It strikes me as the answer to the Focus SVT. Has definate rice potential...maybe a lager wing and some stickers?! :p

Ralph
01-23-05, 05:05 PM
I don't know anything about this car but I assume it's to replace the Cavalier? The only problem with the Cavalier was the crappy one-star side-impact rating that I would never let a loved one drive that I cared about.

It's not bad looking, but I'd want to be standing beside it to know for sure.

majax
01-23-05, 05:48 PM
I would never let a loved one drive that I cared about.



so do you have loved ones you dont care about?;)

The Cavaleir is a great way to kill someone. Just give them one as a gift and then accidently run into them with an SUV:tisk:

ben72227
01-23-05, 06:01 PM
The LS definately looks more refined, which i like. Its definately aimed towards my age group - with that spoiler/wing thing. But I still think it has a few years to go to see if it can even compare with the civic. Personally, i think the sedan version of the cobalt looks much better than either of the coupes:

http://www.chevrolet.com/i/gallery/cobalt/popup_ext_gallery02.jpg

It is though a much better car than the cavalier, and if GM does a decent job on the interior like Lutz said he was going to on the new Saturns, it could definately turn out to be a good car.

D148L0
01-23-05, 06:43 PM
I don't know if Rice is a term usable on an American car. I mean you can do things to it that ricers do but I think it should be called something else. Also that car has power so that disqualafies it pretty much from rice.
Any car can be a ricer. Any.

Now, about the cobalts... I like them better without spoilers.

Ralph
01-23-05, 07:04 PM
Any car can be a ricer. Any.


Wrong! If rice grew in NA then I would agree. :lildevil:

No Cadillac can be "riced out!" PERIOD!

Japanese with mods=RICE.

Let's not start this again. :shhh:

The Cobalt looks like a cross between an Acura RSX, Mazda 3, and a VW Jetta.

Playdrv4me
01-23-05, 07:11 PM
MPH magazine did a review of the new Cobalts. In a small side frame they had a "look-back" section devoted to the Cavalier. In their own words, they called it an "unredeemable shitwagon". I think we can honestly say the Cobalt is definitely a step above the Cavalier.

D148L0
01-23-05, 07:43 PM
Wrong! If rice grew in NA then I would agree. :lildevil:

No Cadillac can be "riced out!" PERIOD!

Japanese with mods=RICE.

Let's not start this again. :shhh:

The Cobalt looks like a cross between an Acura RSX, Mazda 3, and a VW Jetta.
Japanese with mods=RICE.???
What if it's a korean, or chinese, or similar? Then it's not a ricer? :confused:

Dude, a japanese car with real mods not necessarily is a ricer.

A factory engined cadillac with wing spoiler, body kit and performance parts' stickers without the real mods IS a ricer.
The concept of ricer has evolved since different kinds of cars owners started to adopt the same trend...

Guinness4h2o
01-23-05, 08:12 PM
I'm going to have to agree on this one. If you've got all those crazy body elements, a spoiler, wheels, stickers, and a paint job that can give you a head ache and you're still pulling stock numbers, you've got a Ricer. Rice modifications are those that only add to the aestethics of a car, without putting anything into the performance. It's possible for a Japanese car to not be a ricer (i.e. a supercharged NSX), which means it is possible for a car of any other nationality to be a ricer as well. The only thing you need is the addition of a bunch of parts that do nothing for the vehicle's performance, but do try to make it look better...and it's ricer city.

This Cobalt SS? I can definately see some 16 year old putting neons and a giant spoiler on it. But what are you gonna do? Every car has ricer potential. If you know what you're doing, this could be one bad-ass tiny car. I could see myself having some fun driving this bad boy around country roads next time I go back to Ireland. 205-bhp is alot for such a small vehicle, and it wouldn't surprise me if this thing could really do some moving for it's price range.

Ralph
01-23-05, 08:59 PM
Japanese with mods=RICE.???
What if it's a korean, or chinese, or similar? Then it's not a ricer? :confused:


If rice grows in those countries, then by all means, THAT'S RICE. :p

Don't dare call my American Cadillac RICE or else! :rant2: ;)

The first mention I ever heard of "rice" was in 1991 during the movie "Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man." Don Johnson said to Mickey, "Dam rice bike!" and proceeded to shoot it with a Desert Eagle .44 magnum. From what I recall it was a Kawasaki. Fast foreward 10 years to 2001, and the movie Fast and Furious, then EVERYBODY with a Civic, Supra (RICE) started thinking it was cool to "mod" either performance wise or engine, etc. (hey, I don't care, they can do what they want) Then the kids who were stuck with a 2 door Cavalier, Neon, etc. started copycating the ricer biys and the rest is history. To me THAT'S RICE, and NOT a Cadillac thank you. ;)

HotRodSaint
01-23-05, 09:14 PM
Japanese with mods=RICE.???
What if it's a korean, or chinese, or similar? Then it's not a ricer? :confused:


Don't Chinese and Koreans eat rice too? ;)

HotRodSaint
01-23-05, 09:15 PM
If rice grows in those countries, then by all means, THAT'S RICE. :p

Rice is grown in California! :tisk: :D

HotRodSaint
01-23-05, 09:17 PM
As for the Cobalt, I'm impressed.

I prefer the SS of coarse and I don't mind the wing. I like the wing better than the LS.

But I'd really like to see a lip type spoiler instead. Maybe even a huge wild version like Nascar meets rice.

illumina
01-23-05, 09:21 PM
Japanese with mods=RICE.???
What if it's a korean, or chinese, or similar? Then it's not a ricer? :confused:

Dude, a japanese car with real mods not necessarily is a ricer.

A factory engined cadillac with wing spoiler, body kit and performance parts' stickers without the real mods IS a ricer.
The concept of ricer has evolved since different kinds of cars owners started to adopt the same trend...

Hey there, the stickers on my car gives me a proven 200 extra horse power!

Anyways, the colbolt SS seems to be a decent ride and good competition to the neon SRT-4 and the like.

Below, i have designed a nice wing for my car. It should help with the "drag coefficient".

Ralph
01-23-05, 09:42 PM
Don't Chinese and Koreans eat rice too? ;)

But do the Chinese make cars??



RICE! :yawn:

Ralph
01-23-05, 09:44 PM
Rice is grown in California! :tisk: :D

OK, I can compromise. We'll call YOUR Cadillac Rice and mine isn't! :sneaky:

Is the Pontiac Pursuit the twin of the Cobalt? I haven't followed anything on these cars.

HotRodSaint
01-24-05, 12:25 PM
Is the Pontiac Pursuit the twin of the Cobalt? I haven't followed anything on these cars.

I think that's Canada only. And a better idea.

Pontiac US would only sell an upgraded sedans.

Then I'd make Chevy the rental car sedan brand.

Maybe Pontiac should have an SS clone.

HotRodSaint
01-24-05, 12:44 PM
I think it was meant to compete with SRT4 more than with Honda.

The engine probably is a response to Dodge.

As far as styling though, the coupe is almost a Civic coupe clone. It's the tail lights that are all American in heritage. And that's what I like about this design as opposed to a real Civic.

It's almost like instead of telling design to make a retromodern Camaro, they said make a modern Chevy heritage Civic. Not a bad strategy.

pontiac_fanatic
01-24-05, 01:57 PM
The wign on SS is terrible. If I bought the car I would not leave the delarship with that montrousity on. A wing like that is a cry for attention

LS wing is far better.

Other then that great car and not rice. The 18's are kind of overkill--probably just for looks, 17" would likely have no effect on handling.

bsandnes
01-24-05, 03:34 PM
I perviously drove a '95 Corsica and was refered to as "wheat boy" by only my closest of friends...

http://img164.exs.cx/img164/7238/frntmoneyshot111020jh.gif
http://img164.exs.cx/img164/2479/rearleftcorner5gf.gif
That's right! Steel Wheels with beauty rings and chrome lug nuts and magnaflow exhaust.

kempie
01-24-05, 10:08 PM
Slap some stickers on, screw a wing on & wire up some goofy neon lights and your caddy becomes a "potato". Potato = American Rice.

bbeck
01-24-05, 10:35 PM
I'd take an SS with the LS wing. As far as who it's aimed at- I'd say to compete with both the foreign and neon market. My sister's bf has had an srt-4 and now owns a ion redline, and he actually likes the ion better. He had an aftermarket exhaust, chip, and a couple other things on the srt-4. Now, the neon was quicker, but he likes the ion much better.

berkin
01-28-05, 12:58 AM
MPH magazine did a review of the new Cobalts. In a small side frame they had a "look-back" section devoted to the Cavalier. In their own words, they called it an "unredeemable shitwagon". I think we can honestly say the Cobalt is definitely a step above the Cavalier.

The Cobalt SS would look better without the wing. It seems like a great car.

MPH is the worst car magazine BY FAR! It is TRASH! They bashed the new Mustang, but they hardly know ANYTHING about it!

MPH said that the Chrysler 300C SRT-8 is just a Bentley ripoff. They said it felt cheap when compared to the $210,000 Arnage R. HELLO, the Chrysler will cost $40,000!! I've emailed them with the following, but they haven't responded:

That Chrysler 300C SRT-8 is the biggest rip-off I've ever seen! Of course, it is a rip-off of the 1998 Chrysler Chronos concept car and the 1957 Chrysler 300C.

The grilles of both Chryslers look similar.

Notice the lines in the middle of the 57 and 05 Chrysler's hoods.

Also notice the rectangular taillights of both cars.

http://www.allpar.com/cars/chrysler-300c.html (https://webmail2.wbc.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.allpar.com/cars/chrysler-300c.html)

http://www.allpar.com/cars/lx/srt8-chrysler.html (https://webmail2.wbc.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.allpar.com/cars/lx/srt8-chrysler.html)

Could you explain to me how the Chrysler 300C SRT-8's forged aluminum wheels are cheap? Are the four-piston caliper Brembo brakes cheap?

The front end styling of the new Chrysler 300 is almost IDENTICAL to the front end styling of the 1998 Chrysler Chronos concept except for the slant of the new one. The Bentley Arnage came out as a 1998 model that used an underpowered (when compared to the OHV turbocharged V-8), turbocharged BMW 4.4l V-8.

"Named for one of the most challenging corners on the Le Mans racing circuit, the Arnage was fittingly introduced at the French circuit in April of 1998." from MSN autos

The bumper of the new Chrysler 300 curves under the grille like the 57 300.

http://www.allpar.com/cars/concepts/chronos.html (https://webmail2.wbc.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.allpar.com/cars/concepts/chronos.html)

carnerd
01-30-05, 01:44 AM
its definitly gonna be better then my caddy! see ----> http://mywebpages.comcast.net/pj1987/

Kev
01-30-05, 07:01 PM
Not bad for a little guy. If I had one the first thing I'd do is loose the spoiler. I'm sure there would be an improvement in performance and economy without the extra weight and drag. The next thing I would do is mod the suspension. Drop it and stiffen it up for slaloms.

Kev

davesdeville
01-31-05, 02:26 AM
I perviously drove a '95 Corsica and was refered to as "wheat boy" by only my closest of friends...

http://img164.exs.cx/img164/7238/frntmoneyshot111020jh.gif
http://img164.exs.cx/img164/2479/rearleftcorner5gf.gif
That's right! Steel Wheels with beauty rings and chrome lug nuts and magnaflow exhaust.

Yeah GO CORSICAS. Which reminds me, here's a little preview of the W-3.1 Corsica hood...