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01-17-05, 10:39 AM
Presidential Cadillac....
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| View Full Version : Presidential Cadillac SHERIFF 01-17-05, 10:39 AM Presidential Cadillac.... http://www.crownvic.us/forum/showthread.php?t=10497 slk230mb 01-17-05, 11:36 AM I want a front end shot! :thumbsup: Katshot 01-17-05, 11:57 AM See the other thread on this car. We posted pictures. Rauf 01-17-05, 02:14 PM I want a front end shot! :thumbsup: LOOK! http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/PV__022660__.jpg http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/PV__022664__.jpg http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/PV__022661__.jpg ben72227 01-17-05, 02:35 PM i don't like it, especially that section between the front door and back door, it looks tacky. they should have put bush in an STS limo, or better yet, one of those stretch escalades;) Pete Benson 01-17-05, 02:49 PM Ordinarily I prefer big, aggressive, in-your-face grills, (in fact, I think the one on the XLR is too small by half) but this particular one may be too over the top even for me. Can't wait to see it on the production car. Anthony Cipriano 01-17-05, 09:40 PM Be just a little carefull with your judgements on the styling. Keep in mind that this is a "supersized" limosine that's styled using the 06 Deville as a starting point. It's not a 2006 Deville that was converted to a limosine. If this was parked next to a 2006 Deville it would dwarf it in all dimensions. The 2006 Deville is still FWD. The limo in the picture is RWD. Things like the grille, lights, etcetera are all going to be slightly out of proportion due to the other dimensions of the limosine. Watch for full car shots of it to see how the proportions play out on the limosine in real life. I'll bet it's rather attractive in person. MEJIA 01-17-05, 10:23 PM :D Be just a little carefull with your judgements on the styling. Keep in mind that this is a "supersized" limosine that's styled using the 06 Deville as a starting point. It's not a 2006 Deville that was converted to a limosine. If this was parked next to a 2006 Deville it would dwarf it in all dimensions. The 2006 Deville is still FWD. The limo in the picture is RWD. Things like the grille, lights, etcetera are all going to be slightly out of proportion due to the other dimensions of the limosine. Watch for full car shots of it to see how the proportions play out on the limosine in real life. I'll bet it's rather attractive in person. I agree I like it very much.... :thumbsup: I am wondering what armoring level it has installed??? :bouncy: And all the counterterrorism measures it must have.... If we just knew, maybe it beats the James Bond mobiles in the quantity of gadgets and gizmos it must have.... Protecting the President of the United States is no easy task.... A really success for GM producing the transportation for the President of the US Mejia Rauf 01-17-05, 11:05 PM And this is an official information from media.gm.com: Presidential Limousine To Debut New 2006 Cadillac DTS Design Cadillac DTS Presidential Limousine Reveals The Design Direction During Inaugural Parade WASHINGTON - This week, a jet-black, state-of-the-art Cadillac DTS limousine will roll through the nation's capital during the Presidential Inaugural Parade revealing publicly for the first time the new design direction for the 2006 Cadillac DTS production model. Similar to the new DTS, the limousine makes a bold styling statement by incorporating Cadillac's contemporary design cues to the front and rear portions of the vehicle. Redesigned front and rear fascias integrate Cadillac's signature egg-crate grille with center-mounted wreath and crest badge, jewel-like vertically oriented high-intensity xenon headlamps and state-of-the-art LED tail lamps. George W. Bush, the President of the United States of America will be the first to travel in the new Cadillac DTS limousine during the parade route along Pennsylvania Avenue on Thursday, Jan. 20. The sight of the president waving from a Cadillac has become an American tradition. "General Motors and Cadillac are proud to write this latest chapter in American automotive history with the introduction of the DTS presidential limousine," said General Motors Chairman and CEO Rick Wagoner. "We are pleased that our historic relationship with the U.S. government and chief executive office has continued through the years." With a new design and unique construction under the skin, the new Cadillac DTS limousine is handcrafted and dressed in a jet-black clearcoat finish. The vehicle is a considerably longer, wider and taller version of the production model that becomes available later this year. To maintain national security, the limousines are equipped with state-of-the-art protection and communication systems. The vehicle interior boasts six-passenger seating with comfort and visibility for all occupants. A rear seat executive package features a concealed, foldaway desktop that can be deployed when conducting affairs of state. The rear seats have an adjustable reclining feature along with the adaptive seat system, which senses the position of the occupant in the seat and automatically adjusts the cushion for added comfort. Moreover, rear seat passengers can enjoy their own premium sound system complete with a 10-disc CD changer. Wood accents, rich blue leather and cloth complete the executive interior. An embroidered presidential seal is positioned in the center of the rear seat back panel, as well as on each rear door trim panel. Presidential seals are also affixed to the exterior rear doors. The U.S. flag is placed on the right front fender, and the presidential standard is located on the left front fender when the president travels in the vehicle. Flush-mounted High Intensity Discharged (HID) spotlights illuminate the flags at night. The 2006 Cadillac DTS production model is set to make its first public appearance at the Chicago Auto Show in early February. The DTS marks the ninth new vehicle introduced into the Cadillac portfolio since 2001 and aligns with Cadillac's alpha naming strategy established by the CTS, SRX, XLR and STS vehicles. Evolving from three models - DeVille, DHS and DTS - with exterior and interior differentiation, the DTS will incorporate a single-model strategy with one exterior and various option packages. From its Cadillac-signature styling to its power and refined ride characteristics, the DTS is a product of unwavering attention to detail which builds on the strengths and appeal of the Cadillac brand. The DTS will be built at the award winning Detroit-Hamtramck Assembly Center in Detroit, Michigan and is expected to go on sale in the third quarter of 2005. History "It is a great honor for Cadillac and General Motors to be associated with the highest office of the United States," says Cadillac General Manager Jim Taylor. "In fact, Cadillac has been building limousines and special vehicles for U.S. presidents, diplomats, ambassadors and foreign dignitaries since the early 1900s." One of the first chief executives to ride in a Cadillac was President Woodrow Wilson, who rode through the streets of Boston during a World War I victory parade. A lavish 1928 Cadillac town car was used extensively throughout the Coolidge Administration. In 1938, two Cadillac convertibles dubbed the "Queen Mary" and "Queen Elizabeth" were delivered to the U.S. Government. Named after the great ocean liners of the time, the 211/2 feet, 7,660 pound vehicles were equipped with a full ammunition arsenal, two way radios, and heavy duty generators. Durable and reliable, the two "Queens" served Presidents Roosevelt, Truman and Eisenhower. President Eisenhower, who was known as a "car buff," had ridden in one of the first Eldorados during the1953 Inauguration Day Parade. The vehicle was unique as it had the first wrap around windshield, which quickly became a standard in domestic and foreign automobiles. In 1956, the Queen Mary II and Queen Elizabeth II convertibles replaced the original series. The vehicles were 21 feet long and weighed 7,000 pounds. Like their predecessors, these vehicles were fully armored with state-of-the art communications at that time. Moreover, the vehicles were fitted with narrow rims inside the tire in case the tires were shot out. The Queen Mary II and Queen Elizabeth II served not only President Eisenhower, but also Presidents Kennedy and Johnson. Both vehicles were retired in 1968. The Reagan administration was delivered a 1983 Cadillac Fleetwood limousine while a Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham - Presidential Series was delivered to the Clinton Administration in 1993. Unlike previous models, the Presidential Brougham was designed, developed and manufactured totally within General Motors. Moreover, the vehicle was designed to provide unquestionable protection. Minimizing exposure to external threats, no sunroof or running boards were installed on the vehicle. Currently, the 1983 Cadillac Fleetwood limousine resides at the Ronald W. Reagan Presidential Library & Museum in Simi Valley, Calif. while the 1993 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham is located at the Clinton Presidential Center in Little Rock, Ark. The predecessor to the current limousine was the 2001 Cadillac DeVille limousine. It was the first Cadillac to be adorned with the division's current wreath and crest emblem. The vehicle is still in service today. Kev 01-18-05, 12:50 AM Whatsumatter?! Couldn't GM summerize in 500 words or less? Jes kiddin! Looks like an aquired taste. I'm sure it would grow on a person in time. It does look a little awkward in these pics. Bbob definitely has the advantage of seeing these gals up close and personal. Just one of the perks, eh? Kev 01-18-05, 12:53 AM I wouldn't care too much what the outside looked like if I was the dude in the back! :thumbsup: Katshot 01-18-05, 07:53 AM Be just a little carefull with your judgements on the styling. Keep in mind that this is a "supersized" limosine that's styled using the 06 Deville as a starting point. It's not a 2006 Deville that was converted to a limosine. If this was parked next to a 2006 Deville it would dwarf it in all dimensions. The 2006 Deville is still FWD. The limo in the picture is RWD. Things like the grille, lights, etcetera are all going to be slightly out of proportion due to the other dimensions of the limosine. Watch for full car shots of it to see how the proportions play out on the limosine in real life. I'll bet it's rather attractive in person. RWD?! Who built the car? I think Accubuilt did the last one didn't they? Anthony Cipriano 01-18-05, 01:47 PM RWD?! Who built the car? I think Accubuilt did the last one didn't they? Who's Accubuilt? Whoever they are, I believe the answer is no. The previous (and last series) of presidental limos were built internal to GM. The latest version as shown the pictures was also built by GM in cooperation with a contracted supplier internal to GM. dj_sunny 01-19-05, 01:36 AM THAT THING IS UGLY, i think cadillac is screwing up there line. jus my 2cents. www.cardomain.com/id/baller_cars SHERIFF 01-19-05, 12:38 PM THAT THING IS UGLY, i think cadillac is screwing up there line. jus my 2cents. The presidential car looks nothing like the civilian DTS will look like in 2006. Having seen early spy spots of the 2006 DTS the only difference I noticed was the headlights. ------------------------------------ http://www.mustangmods.com/data/843/cforum.jpg pccinema 01-19-05, 09:28 PM I agree it's ugly. That's ok though, so is the president. HotRodSaint 01-20-05, 05:38 PM FIRST CADDY MAKES DEBUT IN THE 'CLASSIFIEDS' (http://nypost.com/news/nationalnews/21480.htm) It has a foldaway desktop, reclining rear seats that adjust automatically, and a 10-disc CD player. But almost everything else you might be interested in knowing about President Bush's new limo is classified. For example, the car, which will be pressed into service for the first time today — for Bush's inaugural parade — has state-of-the-art communications and protection systems. But Cadillac, its maker, won't provide any details about them, citing Secret Service orders to keep them, as you might imagine, secret. Ditto, how wide or high the limo is, how much it cost to build, how powerful its engine is, how much it weighs and what its fuel mileage is. We can tell you, however, that the car can carry six passengers and has a pair of cup-holders in the back seat. The car is a hand-built version of the new DTS sedan, Cadillac's largest car, which goes on sale in the fall. The consumer model will be formally introduced at the Chicago auto show next month. Cadillac won't discuss price, but the current model sells for about $47,000. The jet-black presidential limo has the DTS' egg-crate grille, vertically stacked headlights and LED taillights. High-intensity lights in the front fenders will illuminate the car's U.S. and presidential flags at night. The limo comes with a foldaway desktop in the back seat. And the rear seats will automatically adjust cushion support when the president changes his position. HotRodSaint 01-20-05, 05:39 PM The secret service was still using Carter/Reagan era Cadillacs during the parade today. And why doesn't GM supply the Secret Service with Escalades instead of Suburbans? It's look much better on TV! :D carl perkins' caddy 01-20-05, 10:22 PM perhaps in light of the "reverse surplus" the govt doesnt prefer to look like money-burning privelege-whores ;) Fritzi 01-20-05, 10:28 PM That's a really great point. I think escalades would have definatly made sense. I also wonder why they choose surburbans. SHERIFF 01-21-05, 10:12 AM The Suburbans they use are the HD2500 model. Does the Escalade even make a 3/4 ton series? http://www.mustangmods.com/data/843/cforum.jpg HotRodSaint 01-21-05, 11:54 AM The Suburbans they use are the HD2500 model. Does the Escalade even make a 3/4 ton series? This would be a much easier task than making a bullet/bomb/chemical agent proof limousine. As it'd be a parts bin upgrade and not scratch built. But maybe it's best to use older Chevy's, to send the world other messages besides the message of that we have more style than you! :lildevil: Katshot 01-21-05, 12:59 PM Who's Accubuilt? Whoever they are, I believe the answer is no. The previous (and last series) of presidental limos were built internal to GM. The latest version as shown the pictures was also built by GM in cooperation with a contracted supplier internal to GM. Accubuilt, parent company that owns Superior, S&S, Eureka, and Miller-Meteor. They're the ones that did the Fleetwood Limited.....ring a bell? Anthony Cipriano 01-21-05, 04:59 PM Accubuilt, parent company that owns Superior, S&S, Eureka, and Miller-Meteor. They're the ones that did the Fleetwood Limited.....ring a bell? Sort of. I just never heard of Accubuilt as the parent company of them. In any case, they weren't involved at all with the last series of presidental cars. CharBroiled 01-21-05, 05:26 PM That thing is a deville only in appearence. I doubt it even has a Northstar (too suceptible to EMP effect or other damage). Its probably an old school supercharged big block, all mechanical and no engine computer. Its a custom one off. Sort of like race cars, they only look like the car they represent. Under the shell is a totally different beast. CoupeDevilleRob 01-21-05, 05:34 PM That thing is a deville only in appearence. I doubt it even has a Northstar (too suceptible to EMP effect or other damage). Its probably an old school supercharged big block, all mechanical and no engine computer. Its a custom one off. Sort of like race cars, they only look like the car they represent. Under the shell is a totally different beast. That's a good point about the EMP, it seems like all Presidential vehicles are EMP proof. It's probably got a 502 or 572 big block in it with a carbuerator. You'd need a lot of power to get that leviathan out of danger's way in a hurry. CharBroiled 01-21-05, 06:02 PM That's a good point about the EMP, it seems like all Presidential vehicles are EMP proof. It's probably got a 502 or 572 big block in it with a carbuerator. You'd need a lot of power to get that leviathan out of danger's way in a hurry. Yup, carbs, mechanical or vacuum advance in the distib, old school all mechanical tranny (turbo 400?) with custom protected mechanical linkages, all that. That sucker probably weighs four tons. Stoneage_Caddy 01-22-05, 09:14 PM you can tell something was up with its powertrain ....the whisps of exaust steam coming out of it as it sat idle showed it had true duals and i could tell each pulse of boath banks by the smoke ....it was a deinfate puff-puff-puff-puff ...ususly its pretty steady stream on most new cars ive heard these are based on 1 ton pickup frames .... 472 02-08-05, 05:25 AM The only butt ugly portion of it comes from the glass up; all around the front and back are slick, but to make it a rolling bomb shelter required some ug'in'-up is my guess. I like the front; something about the front 3/4 shot belches old school a bit. Should sit lower though... Sounds like we have a few nominations for a stretch Escalade on dub spinners :D | |