: TPMS Relearning After Tire Rotation



gfxbt
05-22-13, 11:02 AM
I rotated my tires this weekend at 5,000 miles. After rotating them, I pulled out the trusty owner's manual to relearn the tire pressure monitors. When you get to step 7 (or so), the owner's manual instructs you to use the tire pressure monitor relearn tool. What? I think this means I am going to have to take it to the dealer to have the tire pressure monitors "relearned" so that they know the position in which they reside on the car. Kind of disappointed here. Would have liked to have been able to just take care of all of this myself instead of needing to go to the dealer after rotating my tires. Anyone out there know of another way to do this? Seems like it would be simple enough to have an option to select every time you rotate your tires where it just shuffles the values on the display based on the owner's manual guide for rotating tires. There are only two options (1 for same size tires and 1 for different size tired front to rear).

roadpie4u
05-22-13, 12:28 PM
Cadillac covers tire rotations for free every 5000 mi, why not use it? On my car (offset front and rear sizes) instead of rotating them, I have them swap between my OEM wheels and my winter wheels.

There's a tool you can buy to reset the TPMS, its like $70-$100 if you really want to be able to do it yourself.

romanats
05-22-13, 12:49 PM
Just swapped my wheels for 18' and dealer said they will do it for free just drop by will do it on friday.

thebigjimsho
05-22-13, 12:53 PM
On the Vs, you don't need a tool. Just be a tool. And know the procedure...

JCip
05-22-13, 01:00 PM
I wish I knew how these things work on my new ATS. I saw the message after lowering the tire pressure. It went off. So do I assume that the car automatically learns the tires TPMS? No one seems to know. The manual stinks when it comes to explaining things.

gfxbt
05-22-13, 01:29 PM
Yes, I know it is covered (oil changes as well) but I prefer to do it myself. It's not like an early Camaro where you can get under the hood and play with it, so I find doing some work on the car (even if extremely minimal) to be enjoyable. As for the tool, I saw that you can buy one, but that kind of stinks too for $100. Was just wondering if anyone knew of a way to do it without the tool (or letting out air pressure - typically cars will have a "learn mode" where you let air out of each tire in a specific sequence and the TPMS system recognizes the pressure decreasing in each tire in sequence and "relearns" itself - problem is I have to go to a friends house for an air compressor, and I have my tires exactly where I want them front and rear so I would prefer not to mess with that either).

73JPS
05-22-13, 02:10 PM
Yes, I know it is covered (oil changes as well) but I prefer to do it myself. It's not like an early Camaro where you can get under the hood and play with it, so I find doing some work on the car (even if extremely minimal) to be enjoyable. As for the tool, I saw that you can buy one, but that kind of stinks too for $100. Was just wondering if anyone knew of a way to do it without the tool (or letting out air pressure - typically cars will have a "learn mode" where you let air out of each tire in a specific sequence and the TPMS system recognizes the pressure decreasing in each tire in sequence and "relearns" itself - problem is I have to go to a friends house for an air compressor, and I have my tires exactly where I want them front and rear so I would prefer not to mess with that either).

Believe me when I say I am not trying to create an argument or be disrespectful, but if you truly enjoy doing some of these small things yourself (and I can certainly identify with the satisfaction this can generate), then spring for the tool... and while you're at it, buy an air compressor for heaven's sake. These jobs are much more enjoyable to perform when you have the proper equipment. :cool:

M5eater
05-22-13, 02:13 PM
I would find it suspect that they would 'require' the tool.
I'm sure there's a manual procedure that's simply not mentioned like in every other TPMS car I've owned.

Otherwise you're saying to perform basic mantiance that every small car-shop needs to spring for this tool.

gfxbt
05-22-13, 03:33 PM
Believe me when I say I am not trying to create an argument or be disrespectful, but if you truly enjoy doing some of these small things yourself (and I can certainly identify with the satisfaction this can generate), then spring for the tool... and while you're at it, buy an air compressor for heaven's sake. These jobs are much more enjoyable to perform when you have the proper equipment. :cool:

Haha I totally agree. Unfortunately, I am in a position where I am moving every year or so (hopefully not for much longer) so I have no assurance that I will have a garage every year to store stuff (I've had places in the city where it is hard enough to find places to simply store my toolboxes). I'm waiting for the day to be settled somewhere long enough to actually get all of the stuff I want to perform these small projects. Until then, it is relying on friends and family . . .


I would find it suspect that they would 'require' the tool.
I'm sure there's a manual procedure that's simply not mentioned like in every other TPMS car I've owned.

Otherwise you're saying to perform basic mantiance that every small car-shop needs to spring for this tool.

I agree - That's why I was hoping someone knew of another way. Doesn't look promising, as I know the knew Malibu also requires the tool. I'll report back if I figure anything out after taking the car to the dealer.

thebigjimsho
05-22-13, 05:09 PM
This is how we always reprogrammed the TPS on the Vs...

http://cadillacfaq.com/faq/index.html

On this site, click on Wheels and Tires, page 2.

Then click on How to Reprogram Tirepressure Sensors.


Not saying this will work, but its how I've always done it without any sort of tool...

gfxbt
05-23-13, 10:21 AM
This is how we always reprogrammed the TPS on the Vs...

http://cadillacfaq.com/faq/index.html

On this site, click on Wheels and Tires, page 2.

Then click on How to Reprogram Tirepressure Sensors.


Not saying this will work, but its how I've always done it without any sort of tool...

Thanks for the input - I figured it could be done by letting air out of the tires. I guess the short answer to my question (for anyone following) is that you either buy the tool, take it to the dealer to use the tool, or use relearn mode and let air out of each tire until it registers. Not preferable, but, it's not the end of the world. Thanks again to all of you that have provided input.

73JPS
05-24-13, 01:30 AM
Okay, so the end result is that letting air out of the tires DOES work, hence no tool required (regardless of the pain-in-the-ass factor)?

gfxbt
05-24-13, 08:32 AM
Okay, so the end result is that letting air out of the tires DOES work, hence no tool required (regardless of the pain-in-the-ass factor)?

Have not tested it. I know it works on several GM cars, so I'm guessing it will work on the ATS.

romanats
05-24-13, 08:46 AM
it does not work. Took my car in this morning to have them reset TPMS. it took them 5 min.

Y2tony3
05-25-13, 04:04 PM
You NEED the tool. You can't go through the menu nor do the sensors automatically reset when the pressure is good (unless you already used to tool to reset the tpms). I changed my tires out and I called every single dealer around my area and local tire shops, no way no how If you don't have the tool. But once your at the dealer it literally took 2 minutes and they did it for me.