04 SRX V8 - non bose 6 disc changer, no factory xm.

Please don't flame me for trying another way to get GM XM module in my SRX. I may have a chance to get my hands on a delphi xm module. If its a virgin module, I just need to get the right one, it will learn the VIN. If it's from another car, its locked to that VIN and my gm tech will see about trying to unlock it...not sure if that's possible. I know many have checked this issue with negative results.

:worship: Is it possible those who have done bose upgrades, or even those who already have factory XM could take a peek at the xm module and give me the correct part number?

I know they are on parts restriction, which is why I can't get a part number. And I don't think it is the same as the CTS xm module (GM 25769476) which shows up on the ctsowners website.

The xm module is located in the right quarterpanel, just behind the lower trim assembly. It is accessed by removing both the upper and lower panel trim assemblies which gives you an excellent look to the receiver bracket and wiring connections. I believe I have the wires, but I'll have to remove the plug blanks they put on the connector. And I can deal with installing xm antenna if i get that past all these other obstacles.
:worship: (any pics posted would be extremely helpful) :worship:

Be careful! The key to removing the upper trim panel is the Air Bag icon...it pries loose to reveal the only screw holding upper trim panel...the rest are clips that pop right out.

Some of you may know, removing the 3 screws for the storage bin on the lower panel may give you a look. The top screw requires removing top trim panel, the other two screws are under the rubber bottom in the storage bin.

If those who have already been there have an xm module, the part number should be easy to see. Thanks in advance.

Any luck upgrading to "factory XM"?

No luck yet. Not much response from our SRX owners here. I understand it would be a big undertaking just to look at the xm module if you already have it factory installed. My dealer said the next time he had an xm equipped SRX in the shop he would pull the part number from the Tech II.

Even then, I have to find an SRX xm module for exchange because it the modules are VIN locked for only the vehicle in which they were installed. Also, to add more complexity, the XM module wiring harness pinouts are covered. Hopefully, if I get so far as to find and install a virgin xm module, it is just a matter of removing the pinout cover and I am good to go.

GM really does not want you to be able to add factory XM! I suppose it has a lot to do with theft control of the xm module. Otherwise, a pretty lucurative black market would cause all GM xm equipped owners to become potential victims overnight.

Will the existing radio head from the standard radio system recognize and have xm as a source option if you can do this?


Kind of like adding a cd changer on my old acura...the bose system just added "cd" as one of the new sources.

Yes. The headunits in the SRX are capable of recognizing the xm module after its been reprogrammed. The dealer can reprogram the headunit and that will allow the xm module to be accessed with the band button. Keep in mind, that the xm module is programmed to learn the VIN number of your vehicle. Once the VIN is programmed into the xm module, it can only be used for that vehicle. Using an xm module from another vehicle will produce an xm theftlock code. The xm module is then inoperable.I think I am right about this. Other GM or cadillac owners can confirm or dispute, but my research indicates GM has worked to ensure theft deterence on this issue.

Come on forum readers... Some out there has XM....

Please respond...

Doug

Come on forum readers... Some out there has XM....

Please respond...

Doug

Hey - It says your 04 is "loaded" :hmm: No XM ?

It seems to me GM could make a few more bucks selling these modules for people that wish to upgrade. Isn't that what business is all about? I know, I don't have the big picture.

loaded with no xm, I remember reading somewhere not many 04's had xm. I bought off the lot. If I ordered I would have got the xm...

Well----I did order, and XM was not available! (3/04 build)

"I know they are on parts restriction, which is why I can't get a part number"

This makes no sense, any parts department clerk at the cadillac dealer should be able to give you a part number. Parts restriction just means the parts are in tight supply. :cookoo:

It just depends on how much of their time they think your waisting. :yawn:

I don't think you are correct.

Parts restriction, is this case means you can't order it not because they are in short supply, but because GM does not want to release it. I have asked several dealers' parts dept (some who are willing to help, including my dealer where I bought the car) and there is a specific procedure noted to be followed for ordering a replacement/exchange only xm module.

Even when I get the right part number, GM is not going to allow me to order without exchange. The policy could change as it has with the Escalade/Yukon xm modules. But so far, no luck with the SRX.

The new XM and Sirius portables are so small now, even compared to last year.
As you may have seen, I have a portable Audiovox mounted where the ashtray is/was. No cutting or breaking of parts. When i am done with the lease, I can pop the ashtray back in and collect my pieces and I am off. The Audiovox modulator is very good and has yet to offer up any interference from overhead wires or local stations.

I think this would be much easier than the path you are going down, but just a thought to add some perspective. Good Luck!

bk

Come on forum readers... Some out there has XM....

Please respond...

Doug

C'mon! Use the search button! Tons of threads on this.

Here's my XM issue with my '04 http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20903&page=1&pp=20&highlight=Installation

I absolutely researched this issue, (including your previous posts on your experience) before I posted this thread.

The specific request in this thread is: Does anyone know the GM part number for the xm module for the SRX? I am taking a different approach in that I want to exchange a VIN-locked xm module from another vehicle for one that can be installed in my vehicle.

Do you know the correct GM part number? I haven't found it in searching any of the posted threads, including your posts. If I missed it, nice folks in here have been good to reference the appropriate info. Cmon now, read the thread before assuming I didn't look first. Thanks for your input.

beekay,

I have to agree with you about today's portable xm modules. In fact, I have a skyFi II unit I am using in my other car, and the FM modulation works flawlessly. Frankly, it also includes many neat features (30 minute playback) that make it far superior to most factory xm modules. I would be most satisfied with that solution if it were the car I drive.

Alas, I pursue the factory option, because my wife drives the car and she prefers asthetics over function. She desires to have a seamless integration of XM over a portable standalone unit and/or modifications that translate into operating a second unit along with the headunit. I concur with you....but... :rolleyes2 I will press on.....

Good luck SRXman. I got my wife to be cool with it, but it was a bit of work.

Hope you find what you are looking for.

Bk

...I have a portable Audiovox mounted where the ashtray is/was. No cutting or breaking of parts. When i am done with the lease, I can pop the ashtray back in and collect my pieces ...

Can you give some directions in how you got the ashtray asasembly out?

I have the navigation unit but want to add xm, has anyone had any luck?

I don't think so. I have the nav unit and want factory XM also. I also want to replace my window mounted onstar antenna with the xm/onstar combo unit.

Big difference in sound quality between the fm modulated plug and play units and the true digital signal in the headunit. Unless an audiophile, u may not notice. When I purchased my 05, I actually took a non-Bose XM, over a Bose equipped vehicle that the dealer offered to equip with a Skyfi unit. Wish I could have gotten both, but wmy wife said the heated seats were a must, and none were around. Oh well, still love the car.
-Getz

So far, no success in my quest to identify XM module part number or locate a source other than GM for operable module. Seems we are striking out until some time passes and these vehicles begin showing up on the parts salvage market.

:banghead:

There is NO listing for an XM module in the parts catalog at all for any car.

Tried the number shown for the CTS module and says it is a bad part #.
Can't even order radio parts at all, must send whole unit out for exchange or repair. Will keep looking, have a customer that wants factory XM in a 04 SRX.

You will not be able to take an xm out of another srx. If you do and hook it up it will go into theftlock and turns to junk. Just like Mission Impossible. That is gm's answer to theft problems. If you are lucky to get a virgin xm digital receiver you will need the tech 2 to program it to the car. I am currently looking into modifying a xm direct piece. I will keep you informed If I can get it to work. I don't believe that on the 05's the wiring is in the vehicle. I know the antenna is not. GM needs to start offering a after the fact product. All other manufacturers have some sort of add on. No wonder GM's stock is now considered Junk status as well as Ford.


DanDan

DONE!!! :bouncy:

I just wanted to put some closure to a thread I started more than a year ago. After a lot of research, ebay, salvage yards and patience, I proudly put together the last of my puzzle... upgrading my base 04 SRX w/o nav or XM to a shiny new bose equipped, nav equipped, OEM factory XM equipped sweet ride that works like a charm.

Parts came from ebay, GM Parts Direct and salvage yard sources. I made my own harness for the XM harness per factory specs from the SRX Helms manuals and I secured a virgin xm module that integrates with factory Nav unit. I also had to modify the connections for the bose amp, the nav unit, and the noise compensation microphone for the Bose unit, and the connections for talking to the nav unit and the nice lady talking back.

Oh, and I also upgraded to the digital OnStar box (VCIM) I got from an 05 Buick Ranier and I got rid of the on-glass onstar antenna and installed the all-in-one OnStar, GPS and XM antenna on the roof. I now share my OnStar phone with my verizon minutes and talk to anyone in my family and my IN network for free. No more expensive OnStar minutes.

GM did lock us out. But at least in my case.... DONE! ... did I say how excited I am!:dance:

GM should change its ways and allow upgrades without so much hassle.

The XM modules have no "security" feature.
They are not VIN learning boxes.
You just have to get the 8 digit code from the unit and call XM to activate it when it's installed.
You will have to have someone set the "optional modules" in the radio before it's going to work.
Not sure about the wiring.
You are correct on the unit location.

Call Specmo in New York for part number and pricing on a unit.
I am sure they will sell you one.
Not sure if it will work unless the car is pre wired, it may be, but I don't know for sure either.

Specmo Enterprises - Radio, Instrumentation and Speedometer Repair, Car Audio, Accessories (http://www.specmo.com)

Parts restriction really only applies to warranty replacements.
I am not sure how specmo feels about retail sales but I am sure they could answer your questions.

I have a dozen of XM tuners, and they are all locked
Specmo or enybody else will not sell you a tuner.
they can exchange for a defective one. but everything has to be done through the dealer. repair order needs to be written and a whole bunch of other bullshit
GM careless about any parts but
XM tuner
On Star
they are in 100% control of what's going on with those modules

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Cadillac SRX or CTS XM Direct Kit

The XM Direct package includes everything that's necessary for you to play XM over your compatible factory stereo: an XM tuner box, a roof-mount antenna, and the adapter cable that connects the tuner to your stereo.

The tuner box is compact, so you can mount it easily in a convenient spot behind the dash. The adapter cable connects to the tuner at one end, and your factory stereo at the other, providing both signal to the stereo and power to the tuner.

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Parts restriction basically means that GM doesn't want us hanging an expensive part on a car so they force us to call GM TAC to verify our diagnosis before ordering a part, it's shipped directly from the manufacturer of the unit after being released by TAC with a case number. It's mostly because some techs would rather hang a part than diagnose the problem and the few that behave this way screw it up for everyone.

Specmo may not sell you a factory box, but they CAN sell a "XM Direct" kit that will work with your factory radio. It may need to be ordered and installed by a dealer. A box is put in the car somewhere and an adapter harness is installed that plugs into your factory radio and works as if you have a factory system. They make kits to ultimately give you what you want, it just doesn't work the way you might think it ought to. (this was pointed out by the last poster)

Ewill,

I certainly respect your skills as a cadillac tech...( I have read and learned from many of your posts). But on this subject I must disagree. The GM Delphi XM receivers used at least in the SRX/CTS (and others I am sure) do in fact learn a specific VIN upon installation and will not work with another car unless reprogrammed. I know first hand that is the case because I had one that displays THEFTLOCK on the display after installation. Calling XM does not remove the THEFTLOCK mode. It also clearly says in the 3 volume SRX helms manual (Chapter 11) that these xm receivers are programmed for a specifc VIN through the car's Dash Integration Module (DIM) ...no match, no worky. The parts restriction on the xm receivers does place such tight controls, that dealers cannot or will not reprogram with a tech II, so the XM Direct option is about the only alternate source.

I just didn't want to go that way with something else in the dash and hooking up yet another harness, so I made the four connections into the rear splice pack using connectors from the GM terminal repair kit and ordering the XM connector from GM Parts Direct for $2.28. Then I found and purchased a virgin xm module with the single connection antenna for about $199.00. For me it was the desire to be OEM and integrate with the nav unit the way it worked from the factory.

Not sure where you are getting these things are not VIN locked. It clearly states they are in manuals and TSBs. And folks like me and others are telling of experiences where this is confirmed. In fact a call to XM to unlock these babies yields a response that: 1.) you are not the current account holder and you can't do anything until the current account holder closes the account. 2.) activation does not remove THEFTLOCK message. So YES, GM is in fact locking us out. So we have to find a new module or other alternative to install.

Well, I'd have to concede that you could indeed be correct, I get my parts from GM, not from a salvage yard.

I just fix them the way they come from the factory.

Is it really worth all this trouble to add a factory option rather than just spend a hundred bucks on a SkyFi unit and be done or have an XM Direct system put in and end up with the same thing?
I guess it depends on who you are, how much time you have, and what your time is worth to you.

Guess I'll stick to giving advice on factory repairs here.
Of course that will really limit my involvement in this forum, but I guess that will just have to be the way it is.

Thanks for the clarification.
No offense intended to anyone, just voicing my thoughts.
Thanks.

Ewill,

No offense taken, and I absolutely meant no offense to you. Please don't stop contributing to this forum. As I said I have learned a lot from reading your posts. In fact in one of my other post, I actually pleaded for you specifically to read and give me feedback. So don't go anywhere.

As for my complete upgrade of the bose, nav, xm and onstar systems, I would agree with you, it does become an issue of time, money, personal preference and how much you want to invest of each into those upgrades. For me, once I learned systems, wirings, and parts integration to do one of those jobs... I figured I could do all of them. It did become a bit of an obsession to get it all done, but I was patient and waited for good prices. I actually spent less on the xm upgrade that it would have cost to do the XM Direct option , so I still feel good to get it all done.

I have seen a lot of questions on each of these upgrades... I don't know of anyone who's done all of these upgrades on their SRX. Did I say how excited I am? :dance: Anyway just bringing closure to this thread. Thanks for everyone's help!

I am not really threatening to go away.
Just to try to limit my participation to more factory oriented repairs.

I used to have lots of free time, but these days I have barely any.
I just have to find a way to use the time I do have more wisely.
Don't fret, I'll be around.