: 77 CDV Dechroming update/ readying for paint



lacville78
05-06-13, 11:59 PM
I just got the windshield trim off, drilled out the trunk lock cover, and took the upper grill piece off.

Looks like all that is left is the mirrors, and trim around the windows. This means pulling panels, which I hate doing because causing a rattle freaks me out, but I suppose it is for the greater good.
I bought the special took for the door panel removal, and was wondering if anyone has any tips to share before I dig in. Maybe hidden screw locations or mirror removal tips.

Thanks for all the info and help!
Tom.

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csbuckn
05-07-13, 12:20 AM
The thing you have to worry about is the window trim, you're probably gonna break some clips. Mirror is easy, just two bolts. Is it a power or manual mirror?

lacville78
05-07-13, 12:22 AM
Manual, I am not looking forward to breaking clips, but it looks like I have no choice, there is some rust under there that needs attention.
I guess I will be careful, and try to get whatever clips I need, I know finding some of them can be near impossible.

Thanks,
Tom

csbuckn
05-07-13, 12:45 AM
The right side mirror has a cable that goes through the door, into the car and behind the dash. The adjustment knob is connected to the mirror and doesnt unplug from it. I believe you can access the cable if youtake the dashpad off.

lacville78
05-07-13, 12:58 AM
Thanks, I'll give the dashpad a good cleaning while I have it off. :D

1980coupe
05-07-13, 01:47 AM
The cable is not accessible when removing the dash pad. You'll have to remove the center trim where the radio is to access it. And I believe also behind the glove box liner has to be removed so you can guide it out when pulling it from the door. It's a little P.I.T.A. but eventually, it'll come out. csbuckn is right, only two screws but you'll have to remove door panel to gain access thru the door for them.
You're lucky your driver side mirror isn't a thermometer equipped one because that has a fiber optic cable that connects to the back side of the speedometer to illuminate it. That would have to come out just to remove clip, otherwise, if you cut it, it won't illuminate no more..

csbuckn
05-07-13, 06:42 AM
I wanna say that wire runs from the center console up to behind the defrost vents so I think you are gonna have to take the dashpad off but I'll look at some pics on my 84 thread. I just took mine off and I think it was up high but I took so much stuff off, I'm not 100 on that.

cadillac_al
05-07-13, 07:24 AM
Always be careful of hidden screws in door panels. Usually each end of the pull strap, usually one behind the pull handle, and sometimes one under the window switches. If the panel isn't pulling away from the door easily (after pulling all those darts around the perimeter) you most likely have another screw in there somewhere.

I don't worry about breaking trim clips because I always end up needing a few new ones anyway and then just end up replacing all of them.

cadillac kevin
05-07-13, 07:46 AM
Depending on the pull strap style you have, you can have 2 under the ends of the vinyl strap or 2 under the ends of the metal pull handle. Sometimes they also put one or 2 behind the woodgrain switch panel (bolting the armrest frame to the door)

Fleetwood472
05-07-13, 09:33 AM
Nice job so far. So with the rear trunk lock emblem was it just rivets holding it on? On mine somebody must have already replaced it because it's held in by screws.

bigm57ict
05-07-13, 09:55 AM
It has probably been replaced. Mine has rivets, also.

csbuckn
05-07-13, 10:18 AM
Here is a pic of the mirror cable routing. Kinda hard to see but it looks like the glove box may be the way to go. The black cable that goes up behind the defrost vent and back down.
http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad196/csbuckn/20130405_160432.jpg (http://s935.photobucket.com/user/csbuckn/media/20130405_160432.jpg.html)

deVille33
05-07-13, 10:50 AM
Is there a dent in the Driver door? You may be able to pop it back out with the door panel off. :hammer:

1980coupe
05-07-13, 10:51 AM
See, you cant access from removing the dashpad...:)

deVille33
05-07-13, 10:59 AM
Door handles come off too. Need 1/4" drive deep well socket for that too. ;)

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Are you repainting this yourself or using a shop. You should be able to get the pinstripe decals from a body works supply store. The stripes make nice accents to the body lines. :o

cadillac kevin
05-07-13, 01:30 PM
See, you cant access from removing the dashpad...:)

When I pulled a power passenger mirror, I had to drop the dash. I would imagine that you would have to do the same for a cable operated mirror

1980coupe
05-07-13, 06:50 PM
When I pulled a power passenger mirror, I had to drop the dash. I would imagine that you would have to do the same for a cable operated mirror
Nope, never dropped the dash at all and I have removed quite a few already, both powered and manual...all I did was remove the center trim and radio, then removed the glove box liner. Door panel was removed and I just would tug on the wire to see where it would move and if it got stuck, which at times it did, I would follow the wire and untangle it and continue...it was simple. No need for the whole dash to come off, that's extra work.
Next time I do it, I'll take pics...
Now if you're equipped with an illuminated outside thermometer, then you'll need to remove the speedometer, bezel and switches from driver side to gain access to behind speedometer to remove fiber optic cable clip that clips to one of the lights that illuminate the speedometer.

lacville78
05-07-13, 09:19 PM
Thanks everyone!
I got the driver's side all stripped, I'm looking forward to having fun with the PS Side mirror.
As for painting it, I am still on the fence about how to go about it. My dad set up the garage for painting back in the 60s, although he always had someone else do it.
The lights need new ballasts and bulbs, and I gotta clear out all the junk in the garage if I decide to go that route. I gotta order the rear filler and get that bumper off, so I still have some time to think about it.

lacville78
05-09-13, 03:54 AM
Update: Got the PS side done, the mirror removal was easy. I just pushed the control a bit and it went behind the panel, then I unbolted the mirror, and took out the glove box. I pulled the cable very gently, and got it through everything. I did have to help the control get through the gang of vacuum hoses, but with the glove box removed it was no problem. Now, installing it will probably require more work.

Also, I'm suprised no one mentioned the difficulty in removing the lower trim for the window. There are a bunch of screws which require pulling the window to get to. Not too much fun. Anyhow, thanks all.
Tom.

cadillac kevin
05-09-13, 04:02 PM
Update: Got the PS side done, the mirror removal was easy. I just pushed the control a bit and it went behind the panel, then I unbolted the mirror, and took out the glove box. I pulled the cable very gently, and got it through everything. I did have to help the control get through the gang of vacuum hoses, but with the glove box removed it was no problem. Now, installing it will probably require more work.

Also, I'm suprised no one mentioned the difficulty in removing the lower trim for the window. There are a bunch of screws which require pulling the window to get to. Not too much fun. Anyhow, thanks all.
Tom.

You mean the bottom window sill/ felts? Yeah...those are a PITA. Be thankful you don't have a sedan. The rear ones are not exactly easy to pull (since you have to drop the fixed window, which isn't fun at all)