: Let's talk SEATS



BreakingThrough
04-29-13, 02:22 PM
This isn't another re-hash of whether the seats in the CTS are comfortable or not (I find them fine).

On my '08 sedan, I was getting major leather-on-plastic "squeaking" and "creaking" from my driver and passenger seats. The sounds were getting progressively worse, to the point where any small bump in the road would result in some sound from the seat. It was beginning to affect my sanity, and definitely didn't sound like a premium car should. Using leather conditioner along the bottom of the seat would help for a few days, but then the noise would be back with a vengeance.

I solved the problem this past weekend with a $1.50 sheet of adhesive black felt from Michael's. I applied felt between the leather and plastic seat base along the bottom of the seat (temporarily for now; will actually apply the adhesive this weekend). The result is NO leather-on-plastic sounds from the seats. It's transformed the car completely and made for a much quieter ride fitting of a Cadillac. There are still occasional creaks from the plastic seat base, but the sounds are 1000% better. For the record, I can't believe how cheap and hollow the plastic used for the base of the seats is. Shame on GM for using such materials in a luxury car.

Thought I'd share in case anyone else is aggravated by seat noises. Also, a question: Does anyone know if GM revised the seats in later model years to address this issue? Not the Recaro seats, but the standard seats.

RAB
04-29-13, 04:34 PM
BreakingThrough, what a great idea & fix you've come up with! :2thumbs: I have a 2011 CTS, and the recurring squeaking/creaking sounds from the driver and passenger seats is always a source of aggravation for me. Like you I've tried applying leather conditioner along the bottom of the seat, but that would help for only a few days or weeks.
To your question about whether GM revised the seats in later model-years to address the issue, based on the same situation in my '11 m-y car as your '08 I would say the answer is "no".
Thank you very much for sharing. When I get home from my trip I'll be heading off to Michael's to buy some adhesive black felt! :)

CTSCHICK
04-29-13, 04:39 PM
Yep my 2011 has the same problem the passenger seat is squeaky as hell even with some one sitting it in it.
It is not acceptable when I go in for my oil change they better be fixing it a long with my noisy headliner I dont care what they have to do or how long they have it, It better be gone.

The_Judge
04-29-13, 08:15 PM
Too OCD for me!

RAB
04-30-13, 04:15 AM
Too OCD for me!

Hey Judge, you're just not a detail guy!
Yeah, okay, guilty as charged (excuse the pun, Judge). With some things I suppose I do have OCD. Squeaks and rattles definitely qualify!

CTSCHICK
04-30-13, 10:57 AM
There is a fix it thingy out on them for installation of anti squeak tape and felt washers

Paul_Rider
04-30-13, 01:31 PM
Hey Judge, you're just not a detail guy!
Yeah, okay, guilty as charged (hey, excuse the pun Judge). With some things I suppose I do have OCD. Squeaks and rattles definitely qualify!

Never really noticed anything before. Just went out and checked out what the OP described ... sure nuff, there is a squeak when manipulated. Strangely though, absolutely no sounds/squeaks are heard when driving. Fortunately!
While I don't normally have OCD, I too cannot stand "unauthorized" sounds within the cabin. :stirpot: :shhh:

BreakingThrough
04-30-13, 04:09 PM
I can see how it's a bit OCD (I'm OCD in general), but I have to say the difference adding the felt lining has made to overall interior noise is quite remarkable. Before, I felt like my car was starting to sound like a rikshaw with all the squeaks and creaks. It was probably amplified by the fact that the car is so quiet in general. Now it's virtually silent, and I feel like I'm gliding about town in true Cadillac Style.

For $1.50 and about 15 minutes cutting the felt into appropriately sized strips, this has been one of the cheaper outlets for my OCD tendencies. :yup:

HurstGN
05-06-13, 12:59 PM
Now that the problem with the seats is solved, who wants to post instructions to removing the center console to deal with the creaks and squeeks of it? :stirpot: :hide:

exm22psu
05-06-13, 01:20 PM
From someone is is a bit OCD ... a fix for the squeaks and creaks of the console has already been posted ... works brilliantly!

HurstGN
05-10-13, 01:32 PM
From someone is is a bit OCD ... a fix for the squeaks and creaks of the console has already been posted ... works brilliantly!
Can you give me the best search terms to use...when I looked, I couldn't find a definitive fix for it

RAB
05-10-13, 05:11 PM
Can you give me the best search terms to use...when I looked, I couldn't find a definitive fix for it

HurstGN, here are a couple of links to forum threads on the topic. I find searching via google generally provides better results.
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2008-2013-cadillac-cts-general-discussion/192880-how-fix-center-console-sunroof-creak.html
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2008-2013-cadillac-cts-general-discussion/251123-how-stop-center-console-creak-once.html

HurstGN
05-13-13, 01:44 PM
HurstGN, here are a couple of links to forum threads on the topic. I find searching via google generally provides better results.
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2008-2013-cadillac-cts-general-discussion/192880-how-fix-center-console-sunroof-creak.html
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2008-2013-cadillac-cts-general-discussion/251123-how-stop-center-console-creak-once.html
Thanks!!

In my searching I never found these links. This should be easy now that I know where to find the screws and such to take it apart, and where folks have found the parts rubbing together.

RAB
07-21-14, 08:47 AM
I'm re-visiting this old (2013) thread to provide an update with a new recommendation. Further to BreakingThrough's great idea (see post #1) about applying pieces of adhesive black felt along the bottom edge of the front seats to prevent leather-on-plastic squeaking and creaking... I've discovered - at the dollar store no less - similar pre-cut adhesive black material that comes in the perfect width (3/4") and length (30") to apply "as-is" (no cutting necessary) at each front seat cushion bottom edge (side and front) where leather meets the plastic frame. The material is a self-adhesive velcro strip. The label on the two packages I bought (at $1 each) said "Hook & Loop Fasteners - Self-Adhesive". The smooth velcro half (don't use the rough half!) of the 30" long 2-part velcro strip is applied to the seat cushion bottom edge. Could not be better! The job (takes about 5 minutes per seat) is best done with two people: one person pulling the cushion away from the plastic frame, while the other person (the one with smaller fingers!) is applying the soft velcro strip to the leather - with 1/2 to 2/3rds of the strip's width applied to the leather that sits below the top of the plastic frame (that's the tricky bit). The backing on the self-adhesive strip is pulled away in small stages, one step at a time, as you progress around the side and front edge of the cushion bottom. This method prevents the strip from getting stuck on itself as you're working to apply it.
You gotta do this job if leather-on-plastic squeaking sounds (especially when getting in and out of the car) are bothering you. Which they were for me.. but aren't now. :)
Cheers
RAB

techtype
07-21-14, 03:34 PM
I'm re-visiting this old (2013) thread to provide an update with a new recommendation. Further to BreakingThrough's great idea (see post #1) about applying pieces of adhesive black felt along the bottom edge of the front seats to prevent leather-on-plastic squeaking and creaking... I've discovered - at the dollar store no less - similar pre-cut adhesive black material that comes in the perfect width (3/4") and length (30") to apply "as-is" (no cutting necessary) at each front seat cushion bottom edge (side and front) where leather meets the plastic frame. The material is a self-adhesive velcro strip. The label on the two packages I bought (at $1 each) said "Hook & Loop Fasteners - Self-Adhesive". The smooth velcro half (don't use the rough half!) of the 30" long 2-part velcro strip is applied to the seat cushion bottom edge. Could not be better! The job (takes about 5 minutes per seat) is best done with two people: one person pulling the cushion away from the plastic frame, while the other person (the one with smaller fingers!) is applying the soft velcro strip to the leather - with 1/2 to 2/3rds of the strip's width applied to the leather that sits below the top of the plastic frame (that's the tricky bit). The backing on the self-adhesive strip is pulled away in small stages, one step at a time, as you progress around the side and front edge of the cushion bottom. This method prevents the strip from getting stuck on itself as you're working to apply it.
You gotta do this job if leather-on-plastic squeaking sounds (especially when getting in and out of the car) are bothering you. Which they were for me.. but aren't now. :)
Cheers
RAB

Thanks, I ordered beige so I will pay a little more. But, you included all the critical info as usual!

GrayGhost
07-21-14, 04:25 PM
Thanks guys! Can you order it online?

techtype
07-21-14, 04:35 PM
Thanks guys! Can you order it online?

Here is what I ordered as it matched my upholstery better. But, it's not priced like the dollar store!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000078CUA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

GrayGhost
07-22-14, 02:32 PM
I found something similar at Jo-Ann Fabrics (Cleveland Area) yesterday. It was $2.04 for pre-cut strips...I picked up two of them to be safe. Thanks for the advice, going to install tonight.