: Bar's permanent head gasket fix ready to damage parts and engine



markhunter
04-28-13, 05:09 PM
BARíS PERMANENT HEAD GASKET FIX by BARíS PRODUCT INC, Holly MI 48442
Permanent Fix is a ruse!
On March 2013, I added to my coolant Barís Permanent Head Gasket Fix, because of a small and intermittent coolant leaks
First, it clogged everything, all the cooling system parts and passages, heater core, water pump, thermostat and radiator and caused extreme overheated to the engine and followedto put the engine out of commission for overheated
Now I have to install a new engine or junk the car
Total parts damaged including engine $ 7,000.00
Complaint and DEMAND OF PAYMENT to Fred Mannix, Barís Products Inc, Holly MI 48442 went nowhere and denied payment
I bought BARíS at WAL-MART, but if you read everything on the bottle is just a product comparable to a magic ball
ALL LIES!
Where did you find a mechanic in a plastic bottle?
I spotted many people on the internet having a conflict of interest, making money reselling Barís Permanent Head Gasket Fix online and also on E-Bay
I respect people comments, but it doesnít mean that some opinions posted are right and mostly are fakes reviews
People working for BARíS PRODUCTS INC, Holly, MI, protected under different names, posted fakes opinions and reviews on the Internet
In fact, I submitted to Wal-Mart, 5 times a warning on BARíS PRODUCTS INC for potential customer that might buy the products without having knowledge of its devastating results, but WalMart never posted it
Itís like a lottery ticket, chances are that you may lose your money and lose big on Barís Head Gasket Fix, because of the damages on the engine and clogged parts
Today you have your car running and tomorrow who knows!
But Wal-Mart keeps rejecting my complaint on the product in order not to lose sales and also protecting Bar's Products Inc, Michigan the maker of Bar's Permanent Head Gasket Fix
So Wal-Mart' keeps selling it, even when is having knowledge of its failure and being a defective product

vincentm
04-28-13, 05:30 PM
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Ranger
04-28-13, 05:51 PM
:welcome:

Magic elixirs that repair HG's are also called Hope-In-A-Bottle for a reason. Too bad you didn't come here first. We'd have warned you.

That said, you should be able to flush that crap out and repair the threads and insert or stud the block and replace the HG's for a LOT less than $7000.

P.S.
Please edit your profile to show your year and model.

markhunter
04-28-13, 06:34 PM
Dear Sir
You can read on Bar's Permanent Head Gasket Fix:
Permanent Fixes Cooling System Leaks, use on hard to stop leaks, even on Northstar Head Gasket and other severe leaks intake gaskets
Use with all types of coolant, obviously Bar's deceived people, telling people of its fantastic results printed on the bottle and its websites
Bar's found a niche on this economy and on people needs and is ready to jump on it and take as much money as they can
and if something goes wrong, you are on your own - I found that more that 60% goes wrong by using Bar's Permanent crap and people like me have to junk the car

EChas3
04-28-13, 06:40 PM
If something sounds too good to be true, it is.

All such are 'if all else fails' products. Why not?

BlueAngel#07
04-28-13, 07:03 PM
Some beach......sounds like a place to send a load of buckshot.

BlazerZR5
04-28-13, 07:55 PM
snake oil*

markhunter
04-28-13, 08:21 PM
Too late I found out that Bar's Products Inc is located and hidden in a remote place in a hole down below (Holly, MI)
How you can explain that a company doing well is going to be in the middle of nowhere, with more wild animals than people?
Besides that, a responsible company will pay you for damages before its going to escalate out of proportion.
Once the reputation is damaged because of wrong doing, it is going to stay there forever
BAR'S PRODUCT INC looks too high, but it will go down, sooner rather than later

Ranger
04-28-13, 08:25 PM
Dear Sir
You can read on Bar's Permanent Head Gasket Fix:
Permanent Fixes Cooling System Leaks, use on hard to stop leaks, even on Northstar Head Gasket and other severe leaks intake gaskets
Use with all types of coolant, obviously Bar's deceived people, telling people of its fantastic results printed on the bottle and its websites

Apparently you must be one of those people who believes if it is printed it must be true (including warranties). Let's face it though, they are not going to tell you not to buy their product because it won't work (even if they know it). Just look at the blatant BS that the hucksters spew about the Tornado and the fuel line magnet. It is such obvious junk that no one should fall for it, yet they do. Live and learn, but I still say that you do not have to junk the car because you put that snake oil into it. It CAN be repaired for much less than the price you quoted, allbeit a LOT more than a bottle of hope. Whether the car is worth the price of the repair though, is up to you.

rodnok01
04-28-13, 08:50 PM
I have some muffler bearing grease for sale... Buy one get one free

BlazerZR5
04-28-13, 09:40 PM
^

http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j383/BlazerZR5/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_3428.jpg

look at all the laboratory proven,non bias list of product info on the label,...seems legit!

vincentm
04-28-13, 09:47 PM
It was only a matter of time until i saw a kaleco link post here

Submariner409
04-29-13, 02:00 PM
This entire thread - Am I the only person who smells a (troll) rat ???

Curious that Bar's Leaks products have been in business since the 40's (???) and, if you use the recommended product under the recommended conditions for a recommended patch it all seems to work more or less OK - including the recently discontinued GM "cooling system supplement" tablets which were packaged by Bar's Leaks.

Admittedly - and a "stop leak" product is a bandAid, not a "fix" - unless one is looking to flip the car and unload it, it should be properly repaired. Caveat Emptor.

dkozloski
04-29-13, 02:19 PM
You can still get the cooling system tabs at NAPA.

Jesda
04-29-13, 02:23 PM
If you have a genuine concern about their claims, report it to the FTC.

rodnok01
04-29-13, 02:26 PM
Oh yes Sub I smelled troll as soon as I saw the post...

Hoosier Daddy
04-29-13, 02:38 PM
Any experiane is just one datapoint. There probably hasn't been a single manufactured product in history that didn't have problems with some examples, batches, etc.. The one and only Honda I ever owned needed a lot of warranty work. It didn't make me decide that Hondas were unreliable. When I see a lot of similar experiences, that's when I know its time to adjust my opinion.

markhunter
04-29-13, 02:42 PM
Yes, I'm working on it
Fakes product reviews mostly posted by Bar's People on its website
Reported by The GUARDIAN, people in the UK, India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are paid to post false reviews
on companies in the USA and Canada on any kind of product manufactured available
Yes, corruption goes that high

Submariner409
04-29-13, 02:46 PM
You can still get the cooling system tabs at NAPA.

Sure - Bar's Leaks tablets #HDC and Bar's Leaks equivalent powder #G12BP. Got 3 packs on the shop shelf. Western Auto has tons of the stuff.

http://barsproducts.com/catalog/brand/bar-s-leaks

markhunter
04-29-13, 03:28 PM
Bar's in business since 1947?
Perhaps they borrowed the name from a business or a corporation long gone
Many American manufactures in electronic are gone and not longer in business, but the same product name is coming from China,
but not related with any American corporation
One it expired and was not taken back, other people are free to use it

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I'm working on it and a lot more, but i can not tell you on a forum

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BAR'S LEAKS- BLOCK SEAL- PERMANENT HEAD GASKET FIX
Pour directly into radiator, no draining required
Works with all types of antifreeze
How do you call all that printed on the bottle by Bar's?
You followed the simple instructions, but is not working at all
The result; big damages on engine caused by overheated
People opinions varies as day and night, but nobody can reverse all the damages done by Bar's product
and people distrust is going nowhere, because I have evidence and proof on everything
First, it clogged everything on the cooling system
It looks like welded parts, because Bar's uses silicate based (class) and at high temperature, you know what is coming next
But Bar's said: it is safe to use it
But, it is not!

Submariner409
04-29-13, 04:10 PM
Bar's has been in business since '47. It was acquired by Rislone some time back. As posted, their products work as advertised when used as directed. In your case, first post, it looks like "If a little is good, more must be better": head gasket sealant to cure a small coolant leak ?

How mysterious, Sherlock - You just keep "working on it" and when Bar's/Rislone comes back and jams it in your ear, you tell us all about it, OK ?

By your first post admission, you used the wrong product for the wrong "fix', so you're the guilty one, not the sealant company. By and large NO ONE in here advocates indiscriminately dumping oddball products into engines, cooling systems, gasoline or transmissions - there's always the proper repair; you tried to cure what sounds like might have been a simple leak with an atomic bomb and got stung.

By your very explicit statements you have publicly accused Bar's Leaks/Rislone of advertising fraud. Many companies use CF as a potent information site - witness the sheer number of good aftermarket parts companies and dealerships that are regular contributors here.

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Please edit your profile to show your year and model.

His profile (click his username) shows "no car / no cadillac". So we're dealing with a ghost.

markhunter
04-29-13, 05:25 PM
Yes, next step is going to the Federal trade Commission (FTC)
Just give me sometime and you are going to be pleased
People perception is just perception and they were not near my car when I added Bar's Permanent Fix crap,
but facts are different and I have a lot of them, to put Bar's in the place they deserve
They are laws against cheaters and all kind of products selling that they are not good
Companies can't duped people and if they do, they will pay the price

BlazerZR5
04-29-13, 08:55 PM
This entire thread - Am I the only person who smells a (troll) rat ???

^trolls I've encountered in the past don't normally start rant threads,at least about something apparently random.if he's a troll he's a poopy troll. Coming on here starting a Cadillacs are junk,or stupid people buy American cars,or going to project or established thread,and making fun of the subject,pictures,persons or ability/inability...that's how you troll,lol.

Ranger
04-29-13, 09:31 PM
Yes, I'm working on it
Fakes product reviews mostly posted by Bar's People on its website
Reported by The GUARDIAN, people in the UK, India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are paid to post false reviews
on companies in the USA and Canada on any kind of product manufactured available
Yes, corruption goes that high
Good Lord. You don't really believe those "reviews", do you?


Yes, next step is going to the Federal trade Commission (FTC)

They are laws against cheaters and all kind of products selling that they are not good
Companies can't duped people and if they do, they will pay the price
Good Luck with that.

talismandave
04-29-13, 09:50 PM
The OP probably believes that it caused his engine failure. The fact is, his engine was already failing or he wouldn't be looking a magic bullet in the first place.

Ranger
04-29-13, 09:54 PM
Sounds to me like he's pissed because it didn't work. Imagine that!

markhunter
04-30-13, 12:23 AM
The reason of my message about BARíS PRODUCTS was to protect potential consumers and not taking conflicted observations and views by people having a conflict of interest with Barís Products Inc, MI
Barís has competition and is going the extra mile to lie and deceive consumers to make easy money
I did not know anything about Barís when I bought the product, but know I have plenty to say after reading a lot on it
It is obvious to me after my bad experience with Barís Head Gasket Fix, that some of the defenders of the Barís Products Head gasket fix, comes also from people buying and reselling cars with head gasket problem, bought at the auction for a very low price, added the products and selling it for a high price as seen reported by experts investigators on TV
(But if Barís product works, because it is not working at all in more than 60% of the cases)
Soon after, when the customer came back to complaint, the used car seller said: the car was running well when you paid for
As reported on TV and newspapers, there are many cars sold at car dealers that came from the Midwest, Louisiana or many other states where the Mississippi River was leaving a devastated mark. Thousands and thousands of cars were damaged badly and been under the water for months
There are Car Lemon Laws to protect consumers, but somehow auctioneers and expert people on the car business, will move those that were under the water, to different states until the title will change from salvage to clean title
Car business is just like BUGSY at old Las Vegas
If people donít want to listen about true facts, just go ahead and make my day!

Aron9000
04-30-13, 03:31 AM
Who wants to bet this guy works for k-seal or some other competitor in the "snake oil" stop your coolant leak business . . . .

http://www.kseal.com/

BlazerZR5
04-30-13, 08:12 AM
The reason of my message about BAR’S PRODUCTS was to protect potential consumers and not taking conflicted observations and views by people having a conflict of interest with Bar’s Products Inc, MI
Bar’s has competition and is going the extra mile to lie and deceive consumers to make easy money
I did not know anything about Bar’s when I bought the product, but know I have plenty to say after reading a lot on it
It is obvious to me after my bad experience with Bar’s Head Gasket Fix, that some of the defenders of the Bar’s Products Head gasket fix, comes also from people buying and reselling cars with head gasket problem, bought at the auction for a very low price, added the products and selling it for a high price as seen reported by experts investigators on TV
(But if Bar’s product works, because it is not working at all in more than 60% of the cases)
Soon after, when the customer came back to complaint, the used car seller said: the car was running well when you paid for
As reported on TV and newspapers, there are many cars sold at car dealers that came from the Midwest, Louisiana or many other states where the Mississippi River was leaving a devastated mark. Thousands and thousands of cars were damaged badly and been under the water for months
There are Car Lemon Laws to protect consumers, but somehow auctioneers and expert people on the car business, will move those that were under the water, to different states until the title will change from salvage to clean title
Car business is just like BUGSY at old Las Vegas
If people don’t want to listen about true facts, just go ahead and make my day!

^bwahahahaha!

I'm starting to think this individual isn't even here/from the United States! hahaha! lol@under water for months!

Submariner409
04-30-13, 08:20 AM
I'm starting to think this individual isn't even here/from the United States!

You, of all people, should know about hurricanes, floods, and water damaged cars ..............("under water lol")

If you'll click on the OP's profile/posts and get to his internet server IP you'll see that he is in/around Burbank, California. Does that fact make his post rationale any clearer ?

http://iplocation.pythonclub.org/

Ranger
04-30-13, 10:42 AM
The reason of my message about BAR’S PRODUCTS was to protect potential consumers
Might want to add these to your list then.
http://www.rxauto.com/contact.htm
http://www.steelseal.net/
http://www.gobluedevil.com/headgasketsealerproduct.html
http://www.thermalweld.com/

RippyPartsDept
04-30-13, 11:17 AM
:yeah:

just because the bar's product didn't work doesn't mean that the other competing products do

BlazerZR5
04-30-13, 03:16 PM
^exactly,and I do know floods, I live in the gulf coast! The Mississippi had nothing to do with Katrina's flooding,and vehicles where not submerged for months either! the vehicles that where baptized the longest we're sucked into the gulf by storm serge's...I can tell his posts are cut/paste by the way they read,he has very little to no knowledge of real events,except for what he's cut&pasting from other sources..even if he is "here" in the US I still doubt he's from here.

markhunter
04-30-13, 04:23 PM
I noticed that people in the car business try hard to BS me having doubts on everything, including being American and some others nonsense issues
Well, once think I can tell you, that my family tree is not coming like yours (married to a 7 eleven guy) and mixed to whatever, including people from Mogadishu
My business is not like yours, cheating people and selling damaged cars
I'm not working for Good Morning America to better inform you, and Katrina putted the whole New Orleans under water
How Anglo you have in you veins? Probably not even a smell of that
I seen that everything escalated by viewers of this forum to personal aggravation and nonsense to prove something they can not?
America is not only divided by Republicans and Democrats by bad people having no feeling for its own American compatriots

vincentm
04-30-13, 04:25 PM
huh?

Submariner409
04-30-13, 04:29 PM
When the politics and name calling starts, the thread stops.

FWIW, This thread was shut down by a Scotch-Irish-English non-religious Independent voter whose ancestors arrived here in 1633.