: 08 SRX needs tires- thinking about firestone destination



myschultz
04-22-13, 12:41 PM
Jut priced michilin, over four hundred a piece. thinking about firestone destination 255/50/20 XL. anybody have an opinion on these or something else ?

OakSRX04
04-22-13, 01:11 PM
I'm looking to buy in the same size as well. Tirerack recommends the Firestone Destination ST for the SRX. There is also excellent reviews on the Yokohama Parada Spec-X. Anyone driving either of these?

conedoctor
04-22-13, 01:40 PM
I really like the Nitto NT420s and will be buying a set for my truck as well, great tire.

mwswarrior
04-22-13, 04:28 PM
I have the Yokohamas. They were great through the fall, winter and spring so far. No issues in LOTS o' miles of mostly highway driving.

chiefc90
04-22-13, 09:19 PM
Conedoctor, I bought a set of the Nittos and well hate them. Feels like they have a flat spot every morning. What PSI do you have them at?

Stillrollin
04-22-13, 09:31 PM
Jut priced michilin, over four hundred a piece. thinking about firestone destination 255/50/20 XL. anybody have an opinion on these or something else ?
I'm running the 20" ST's on my '08V6 and they improved the ride over the mixed sized 17" RSA's considerably. Handling is better, too.
Excellent all weather tire and good in snow.

conedoctor
04-23-13, 11:55 PM
I use the pressure on the door and they are great.

The Wrench
04-24-13, 06:13 PM
Don't take the following too seriously, but it's all true experience.

With tires, like most other things, if you're really astute you may possibly get what you pay for. Yes, Michelins are expensive to buy; but who was it on this forum that said "Michelin makes round tires, Goodyear makes black tires, Firestone makes flat tires". My experience generally jives with that. I've run through a lot of different tires in the last million miles, but never found any tires that lasted as long and stayed round as well as Michelins (or howled as loud, unfortunately). I've had some cheaper brands that did fine for the price, but plenty that didn't. So, recommend you get on the Tirerack web site and read all the tests and reviews about the tires you select, then roll the dice - or buy the Micks and a set of ear plugs, and roll smooth and long.

Cheers,
DG

conedoctor
04-24-13, 07:16 PM
Yes but the flaw with your logic is if you get good tires you can't later post on a forum that your SRX....

Sucks and GM makes bad cars when equipped with the worse tire I could find online
Has road noise
Gets flats
Does not handle well
Wears out tires too fast
Slides around
Has a bad ride

You are very correct, you get what you pay for, I think you pay too much for Michelins but you are getting what you pay for and your not going to have issues with them or less issues anyway.

There are some great Korean and American tires on the market, above all use common sense in choosing a tire and read reviews and look for a pattern but remember people are really stupid and will use the wrong tire for the application and blame the tire or some other really stupid comments. It really is funny the things people blame on tires, good read for sure just don't trust them, the tirerack tests are awesome and controlled.

The term "all season" and "all weather" just means good at nothing, look at the tread and let it tell you what kind of tire it is. Lets take the Firestone ST, it is a summer tire that they put all season on, this tire is going to suck in the snow just by looking at it (Stillrollin I'm not picking on you) and if people say it is good in the snow they have not had real winter tires or don't drive in the snow much. Big fat tread blocks are awesome for dry grip and wont squirm or chunk off under load but also can't move and flex when they need to on snow or ice so the tire just skids.

So first you have to ask where you are going to drive most and what you want from the tire, do you need snow grip or just summer?

Whiplash_89
04-24-13, 08:01 PM
I have a summer car with summer performance tires and winter car (SRX) with winter tires. Although I am currently looking to purchase some summer tires for the SRX as well since its more practical for my son and dog. I'm not even going to look at an all season tire unless the price way better than a summer tire, which from what I have seen; they are not.

GGMiv
04-24-13, 08:27 PM
I've always had good luck with Bridgestones.

Stillrollin
04-24-13, 08:46 PM
Conedoctor, if you've used Firestone Destination ST's on your ride in the snow and you have had problems negotiating
in bad weather, then your experience is contrary to mine.
I used them for 3000 miles on my Trailblazer SS in wet and dry weather, then switched to Michelin Cross terrains mounted on 17"
wheels for winter driving. They did a excellent job in snow as deep as fifteen inches.
When I purchased the SRX, I found 20 cadillac wheels on ebay and put the ST's anthem. This past winter I used them
and we had some pretty nasty weather here in northern Ohio as well as in West Virginia and these tires actually out performed the Michelins.
They are particularly good in short stopping distances on ice.
The only way the 17" wheels will ever go back on my SRX will be if I can find a true winter tire to mount on them.
Regarding "flats", I have yet to purchase a tire that couldn't be flattened by nails or road debris, but if I did have an issue with it, I'd be looking into run flat
tires.
(no offense taken)

garfin
04-25-13, 09:45 AM
Jut priced michilin, over four hundred a piece. thinking about firestone destination 255/50/20 XL. anybody have an opinion on these or something else ?

I just put a set of the Destination ST on my '07 SRX4 N* a few weeks ago (255/55/18 all round) and so far I'm happy. Great directional stability on the highway and quiet - at least compared to the Pirelli Scorpion snows that I took off! They seem good in the wet, but haven't experienced any "emergency situations" yet with them or driven through deep puddles to gauge if they're prone to aquaplaning. They have a stiffer ride than I was expecting, but that's OK for me as they demonstrate excellent handling and grip and are very responsive to steering inputs. They definitely have a sporting character. I'll have to wait until next winter to see how they are in those conditions, but I've got the Scorpions in reserve if the Destinations aren't up to scratch for winter use. My experience with all-seasons in the winter is that they work well for the 1st couple of seasons and then lose their ability to perform well in the winter.

Best regards,

Elie

conedoctor
04-25-13, 10:30 AM
I have never used them nor do I think I need to, just sticking to how tires work, the ST tread does not have the ability to grip good in bad weather.

Now the definition of "good" varies between people, I use a studded winter tire in the winter, it grips good so to me the ST would grip bad. We can call the ST an all season tire all day long but it does not make it one, its a summer tire marketed to be an all season. Same as my Nitto NT-420S is an all season tire, I autoX with the guy I bought them from and we both had a good laugh about them being all season and the general public believing they would have good grip in the winter, this idea is just dangerous.

If I had my choice I would be on the CrossContact UHP, they were great on my 04 but I did not go with them on the 09 due to delivery issues but the Nitto tires are great so far.

All season tires also freeze and the rubber gets harder and it can't flex and grip on the bumps of the road and hold on as well.

If I show up to a race with street tires and everyone else has race tires I am going to get killed, my wife driving the kids to school is my racetrack so she gets race tires. winter/summer all the way.

Some people are just going to get all-seasons and call it a day and that is the choice of most, but for maximum happiness use the right tool for the right job.

Man I need to stop making these long posts, if I spend more time working I could go home earlier, tires are one of my passions, I really love tires.

garfin
04-25-13, 10:57 AM
I have never used them nor do I think I need to, just sticking to how tires work, the ST tread does not have the ability to grip good in bad weather.

I use a studded winter tire in the winter, it grips good so to me the ST would grip bad.

I am jealous! I wish they were allowed here!!

Best regards,

Elie

conedoctor
04-25-13, 11:20 AM
Not saying you did not check but most people assume studs are not allowed but I was surprised how many places do allow them, lots do.

It is so worth it, you give up a bit on the dry but gain huge on ice. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=123

garfin
04-25-13, 11:24 AM
Not saying you did not check but most people assume studs are not allowed but I was surprised how many places do allow them, lots do.

It is so worth it, you give up a bit on the dry but gain huge on ice. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=123

Thanks! They're OK in northern Ontario, but not in the Greater Toronto Area. Otherwise, I'd be using 'em.

Best regards,

Elie

conedoctor
04-25-13, 11:43 AM
Nothing is greater about the Toronto area ;)

Whiplash_89
04-25-13, 11:52 AM
Haha, northern ontario is also exempt from emissions...

conedoctor
04-25-13, 12:35 PM
Northern Ontario also has Brad Jacobs, NO FTW!

Whiplash_89
04-25-13, 01:24 PM
I had to google who that is. Curling is fun to play but watching it on tv is another story.

conedoctor
04-25-13, 01:49 PM
Its even better on TV, depends on who is doing the coverage it makes all the difference.

subzero32
04-25-13, 08:29 PM
I have the Furestones and they are fantastic.