: Radar Detectors, Escort SmartRadar



Cadzilla8
04-18-13, 04:15 PM
Was looking into buying an escort smartradar. Anyone have any input on radar detectors in general or specifically the smartradar?
Thanks

The-Dullahan
04-18-13, 05:08 PM
In before the threadlock.

These threads seem to pop up monthly, don't they?

Anyhow, if you want my personal opinion, the best method of determining when police are about is to keep your eyes open. Another trick I have learned is that speed is irrelevant. It is how you react to their presence. When you're cruising along at 100 and see an officer ahead watching traffic and suddenly brake to slow down, it draws attention.

"Why is he so nervous? Why is this guy stopping?"

My experience is that you are better off just going about at the speed you are already traveling.

If you're REALLY worried about the police though, I'd invest in this long before some stupid radar detector.

http://image.synnex.com/image_technote/I190243292.jpg

That or the obvious advice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovwxBrIBj1w

Cadzilla8
04-18-13, 06:02 PM
Is this sorta discussion not allowed here? Sorry I didn't know. But the ones I was looking at have like a 1 mile detection so I can slowdown before I'm in police line of sight.

Hoosier Daddy
04-18-13, 06:20 PM
Is this sorta discussion not allowed here? Sorry I didn't know. But the ones I was looking at have like a 1 mile detection so I can slowdown before I'm in police line of sight.
Sounds like not so much not allowed as repetitive. Some may think owning one makes someone a scofflaw.

I have no problem with Radar Detectors or owning one although since the 55 went away, I have no need. Our freeways are 65 and the highways are 75. And I'm retired so nobody else dictates when I need to be somewhere. Even when I was a scofflaw I had a good eye and never had a speeding conviction ....... although there was that time I got a written warning for going 165 in a 45 zone but he had to guess my speed and underestimated it at 110.

The-Dullahan
04-18-13, 07:05 PM
Oh, the conversation is certainly allowed and as sarcastic as I come off, we're all just here to help. These conversations just sort of tend to escalate poorly and end up getting locked out.

As with Hoosier, I do not make a habit of getting tickets. I did get one this one time, but had it turned over in court, as my partner was right behind me. Her own car's dashcam recorded via GPS that she was only going 52 and she was gaining on me, meaning there is no way I was doing the "76" the officer accused me of...which was suspiciously EXACTLY sixteen over the limit. The officer blamed it on faulty equipment in the end and I walked out.

The local police all know me now. Mostly because I've been pulled over enough times. A kid my age always looked suspicious in the my Pontiac or Chevy and my Cadillac just ALWAYS looks suspicious. Now that they've learned I am not such a bad person, the only time they have to talk with me is if we pull up beside one another at the gas stations.

But the second I travel outside of my county...

The need for owning a radar detector will vary from person to person, depending on their personal situation. I have never been pulled over by an officer whom I was well aware of (most have followed me for ten-or-fifteen minutes beforehand) so the radar detector would not be as useful in my situations. I couldn't imagine really needing one unless I made a habit of speeding frequently, lived someplace where the police actually care how fast you are going and did not have the foresight to know where they were before arriving at that position.

Kad4Life
04-18-13, 09:07 PM
Back roads, off-season; the Yokels keep their K band on all the time .
Gives you a speck of time to slow down, mostly .
Small town, small potatos . :D

CadillacLuke24
04-19-13, 02:37 AM
Sounds like not so much not allowed as repetitive. Some may think owning one makes someone a scofflaw.

I have no problem with Radar Detectors or owning one although since the 55 went away, I have no need. Our freeways are 65 and the highways are 75. And I'm retired so nobody else dictates when I need to be somewhere. Even when I was a scofflaw I had a good eye and never had a speeding conviction ....... although there was that time I got a written warning for going 165 in a 45 zone but he had to guess my speed and underestimated it at 110.

Yeah you and me are going to Vegas :sneaky:

Not that I'm condoning anything, speeding is bad and illegal and dangerous and risky and bad, but...

If you feel the need you just have to play it smart. Do it right and you won't get caught.

The-Dullahan
04-19-13, 05:07 AM
Vegas is awesome. You know what I like most about it? You know how on the interstate, there is always that ONE car that is just creeping along at like...45...

In Vegas, that car is going 100. On 95, there is not a single car moving slower than that and the police just...don't...care.

CadillacCastle
04-19-13, 05:46 AM
I was so glad when it went from 55 to 70. And 70 means 80. 85MPH is really WOT and legal in parts of Texas. Thats faster than I usually want to cruise.

Hoosier Daddy
04-19-13, 10:09 AM
Yeah you and me are going to Vegas :sneaky:

Not that I'm condoning anything, speeding is bad and illegal and dangerous and risky and bad, but...

If you feel the need you just have to play it smart. Do it right and you won't get caught.
I can rationalize with the best of them! My 165+ in a 45 is an example. It was on a farm road I used for testing power mods. The section I used was flat and arrow straight. You could see for miles and the only entry/exits on this section were to abandoned farms. So I would cruise one way to make sure of conditions and to confirm nobody was at any of the abandoned farms. But just as I turned to make my run, a Sheriff's car came over a rise about a quarter mile away. I made my run and pulled over and was eating an apple by the side of the road when I heard a distant siren. Soon a car came skidding to a halt pelting me with gravel from the shoulder he slid on. I talked to his partner (new guy, first week on the job) while the driver radioed in. I got the impression they were really pumped because they thought I saw them and then took off to evade capture or something. Probably thought they had their first bank robber or serial killer. They were pissed off and disappointed at the same time that I didn't even know they were back there. I still don't know why they just gave me a written warning for 110 in a 45. They said they didn't know how fast I was going but knew it was well over 110 becasue of how fast I left them behind. My best guess is that since they lost sight of me and apparently didn't get the plate until they found me stopped they thought a ticket wouldn't stand up in court or they would get ribbed by their friends for a high speed chase that the perp never noticed. I carefully never admitted I was the one they were chasing and had no idea who the guy that went flying past me was ;).

CadillacLuke24
04-19-13, 02:11 PM
:histeric:

:thumbsup:

The-Dullahan
04-19-13, 04:53 PM
My Father once flew by a Police Officer doing "around 160".

I know, because there was a long flat road that led between the mountains leading into the valley back home (actually, it was cut straight through a mountain) and though it was sloped (heading downwards, to the valley) it was smooth as could be. Never being one to follow speed limits, he decided he would just sort of...drive however he wanted...whenever he wanted.

So this was one of those days, and as he hit around 120, a car pulled out ahead of him. Way ahead of him, but he couldn't just go through it. Instead, he figured he would just whip by the car even faster, for no real reason other than he could.

So the cop he just passed well over the speed limit put his lights on and he stopped and actually had to wait for the officer to make it up to him. There was no real shoulder and he was basically in the front yard of an acquaintance's acreage, who was actually out that evening, rather perplexed to see my Father, a man he did not really know too well, just sort of show up out of the blue. The first thing the officer did was make a remark about how impressed he was with the car's speed. Then he asked why he would do that in front of an officer. My Father, completely calm and at ease about the situation clearly explained that he hadn't KNOWN it was an officer. From there the conversation went something like:

"So...you didn't see the lightbar on the roof?"

"No, honestly I did not."

"Or the big, gold star on the side of the black-and-white car?"

"To be perfectly honest sir, I really don't recall." (An answer my Father used for LOTS of things)

"Well, do you have any idea how fast you were going?!?!"

(Thinking for a moment) "As I passed you? About One-Sixty..."

The officer readily agreed that that was probably an accurate estimate. No documentation was filed, no warning issued, just a "Next time you're going to do that, make sure the road is empty."

I never had any idea how my father ALWAYS got away with everything. He had a knack for it.

To be honest though, a typical encounter for me with the police these days is.

"Hey, do you have a beer to spare?"

"Yeah, right here!"

(Kids, DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE. I am not advocating it, and in spite of how it sounds, it is not something I would ever do. There is a difference between HAVING beer and DRINKING it)

Hoosier Daddy
04-19-13, 06:02 PM
Reminds me of the time I was testing my JATO mod. I didn't want to waste any of it so decided to wait 'till I was tapped out in high gear. I had just passed thru 80 MPH when I went by a cop on the side of the road. Sure enough he gave pursuit. Well my car was pretty quick even without the JATO so I decided to give him a run for it. I topped out at around 130 and damned if the cop wasn't dropping back. So I hit the JATO. WOW!!!!!!!!! I'd estimate I hit over 300 MPH in just a few seconds. As I slowed back down, I started feeling guilty so I turned around to see if I could find the cop. I had only gone a few miles when I came across the patrol car on its roof and beat to hell in the median. I stopped but the cop was no where to be found. So I headed back into town to report it when I saw him laying on the shoulder, his uniform in tatters. I got out and ran to his side and revived him. When he came to I asked him what happened. He said: I was chasing some guy at over 130 MPH when he suddenly disappeared into the distance. So I got out of my car to see why it had stopped and the next thing I knew I'm laying in the road with you slapping me. ;)

Tearsuvscarlet
04-19-13, 06:31 PM
This article may be of some help. I do know that the biggest problem facing the efficacy of radar detectors is the huge improvements of police speed detectors. Me and the wife are planning on buying one for our cross country trip this summer, and we'll probably end up going with one of this guy's recommendations.

http://www.radartest.com/article.asp?articleid=1064

cadillac kevin
04-19-13, 06:48 PM
Reminds me of the time I was testing my JATO mod. I didn't want to waste any of it so decided to wait 'till I was tapped out in high gear. I had just passed thru 80 MPH when I went by a cop on the side of the road. Sure enough he gave pursuit. Well my car was pretty quick even without the JATO so I decided to give him a run for it. I topped out at around 130 and damned if the cop wasn't dropping back. So I hit the JATO. WOW!!!!!!!!! I'd estimate I hit over 300 MPH in just a few seconds. As I slowed back down, I started feeling guilty so I turned around to see if I could find the cop. I had only gone a few miles when I came across the patrol car on its roof and beat to hell in the median. I stopped but the cop was no where to be found. So I headed back into town to report it when I saw him laying on the shoulder, his uniform in tatters. I got out and ran to his side and revived him. When he came to I asked him what happened. He said: I chasing some guy at over 130 MPH when he suddenly disappeared into the distance. So I got out of my car to see why it had stopped and the next thing I knew I'm laying in the road with you slapping me. ;)

That's funny (I'm guessing you made that up-unless you could really get rockets back then)

Hoosier Daddy
04-19-13, 06:52 PM
That's funny (I'm guessing you made that up-unless you could really get rockets back then)
It's a joke I heard back in the 70's. I just personalized it. LoL

The-Dullahan
04-20-13, 10:50 PM
That's funny (I'm guessing you made that up-unless you could really get rockets back then)

Back then? Hell, you can get them now. At least here, you can.

Still wouldn't advise putting rockets on a car in an effort to test the worth of this story.

rodnok01
04-22-13, 11:22 PM
I can tell the tech in Radars has imrpoved I get less time to react, I'm sure detector being 7yrs old ain't helping either.
I usually only turn it on when going somewhere not familiar with so I don't get a small town ticket when I miss a sign.

tanderson2491
04-25-13, 10:16 AM
I bought a Beltronics RX65 to replace my older Escort. Most of the time when I see Connecticut State Police on the side of the road the detector doesn't even go off. Sometimes I see them with the radar gun and the detector goes off sometimes. Out of state is when it normally goes off.

Cadzilla8
04-25-13, 05:14 PM
I got an escort smartradar set it up yesterday drove around for a few minutes and have me a warning when I went past the police station

Tearsuvscarlet
04-27-13, 12:51 AM
In a somewhat related topic, been thinking about getting one of those translucent license plate covers that is supposed to block speed cameras from photographing your plate. Anyone have one, know if they are effective? Anyone get any hassle from the fuzz for putting one on your car? I know Myth Busters did a program covering them and reported that they are ineffective, but I sometimes question their adherence to the scientific method; I also find it hard to believe that if they were actually effective that they would broadcast on cable television, "Yes this works! If you don't want to get speeding tickets, just put this on your car!"

tanderson2491
04-27-13, 09:18 AM
In a somewhat related topic, been thinking about getting one of those translucent license plate covers that is supposed to block speed cameras from photographing your plate. Anyone have one, know if they are effective? Anyone get any hassle from the fuzz for putting one on your car? I know Myth Busters did a program covering them and reported that they are ineffective, but I sometimes question their adherence to the scientific method; I also find it hard to believe that if they were actually effective that they would broadcast on cable television, "Yes this works! If you don't want to get speeding tickets, just put this on your car!"

My friend had one on each of his plates on his Intrigue. Cop pulled him over once and gave him a verbal warning to remove them. Got pulled over again and got a ticket. (This is in CT btw)

MrHolland
04-27-13, 09:28 AM
I agree with that. There's no need to have such a device unless you're going to do something you shouldn't be doing.

talismandave
04-27-13, 03:05 PM
I agree with that. There's no need to have such a device unless you're going to do something you shouldn't be doing.

....oh, I see what you mean.:tisk:


http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p519/davidpraedel/sendbinary1_zpsfa7b7f34.jpg (http://s1153.photobucket.com/user/davidpraedel/media/sendbinary1_zpsfa7b7f34.jpg.html)


BTW....you make a great straight man! We should take this show on the road.:histeric:

orconn
04-27-13, 03:47 PM
Ah! You guys are all wimps ..... radar detectors, humbug! Real men fight the speed Nazis with shear cunning and guts. If you can't afford the cost of ticket, don't speed. If you can and enjoy the challenge .... go "rogue" (as our patroness Sarah of the North) would say.

I mean, would a bull fight be exciting or even worth watch if the matador wore body armor?

Be a man, go rogue and stealthily out wit the LEOs at their own game!

rodnok01
04-27-13, 08:21 PM
I only go as fast as I wanna pay for, now and for the next 3 years.

EChas3
04-27-13, 08:49 PM
I find my radar detector to be an effective reminder to watch my speed. Awareness is step one.

MrHolland
04-27-13, 11:49 PM
Hahahahahaaa, you got me Mr.Talisman, you got me.....

That nifty little device would've saved me a hundy!!

talismandave
04-28-13, 12:31 AM
Took half the day searching old threads.....worth it!