: Terrorist Attack in Boston.



thebigjimsho
04-15-13, 05:08 PM
Turn on anything.

My company drives for the elite runners. HQ is two blocks away. Haven't heard from any coworkers yet. Praying for their safety...

Cadillac Kid03
04-15-13, 05:17 PM
Yea i'm watching it now pretty messed up.

thebigjimsho
04-15-13, 05:28 PM
Heard from my coworkers. They are in lockdown still at the Fairmont Copley hotel...

Cadzilla8
04-15-13, 05:32 PM
Very disturbing and frightening this close to home

The-Dullahan
04-15-13, 06:05 PM
Ben paying close attention since one of my girls here tipped me off. She is from Boston and like myself, has a lot of family and friends there.

RippyPartsDept
04-15-13, 06:11 PM
I saw some video and some stills ... pretty gruesome

Cape Fear is thinking about you Beantown :heart:

ben.gators
04-15-13, 06:19 PM
This is horrible and insane! My prayers to the victims....

The-Dullahan
04-15-13, 06:20 PM
News reported a third bomb a little less than an hour ago.

dkozloski
04-15-13, 06:40 PM
A Saudi national is being held at a Boston Hospital. Who else?

Submariner409
04-15-13, 07:35 PM
Real mess - another blast at the JFK library ??? Sad day when a simple marathon is a target - albeit an easy one.

Too bad the terrorists didn't use "assault rifles" - ABC, NBC and CBS won't make much money with a simple bombing.

If the "person of interest" is in fact a Saudi, does this mean we send them yet more money to keep them as allies ???

Cynical - Yes it is - horribly: More people died or were maimed in the U.S. in the last 24 hours due to drunk drivers than the freak blew away in Boston.

orconn
04-15-13, 07:44 PM
^^^ Far more injured or killed by drunk drivers ..... and if Richmond is any indication, this is also true of firearms!

Submariner409
04-15-13, 07:59 PM
............ but the firearms jumped off the table or out of the closet, walked into the store and committed murder all by themselves, right ?

orconn
04-15-13, 08:07 PM
No, some semi-literate member of the underclass, or psychopathic member of the population that the legal system and mental health practitioners don't want to deprive of the "constitutional rights, pick up inanimate firearms and activate them killing thousands of innocent Americans each year.

thebigjimsho
04-15-13, 08:39 PM
You guys continue with your political banter. I'll bring in religion. Was this God's will? No.

orconn
04-15-13, 08:47 PM
^^^ Amen!

Kad4Life
04-16-13, 12:08 AM
Some God, anyway ........
Pick one .

CadillacCastle
04-16-13, 12:14 AM
PLEASE don't blame it on firearms!

CTSCHICK
04-16-13, 04:14 AM
Sad :(

Submariner409
04-16-13, 09:55 AM
Several news outlets are saying that authorities are searching the person of interest's apartment.

BlueAngel#07
04-16-13, 11:21 AM
God be with their families and friends. I can't help but wonder if all the publicity doesn't make matters worse. Seems like the terrorists get their jollies watching it on T. V. It is truly SAD..

RippyPartsDept
04-16-13, 12:37 PM
there is a theory to that
the serious: Our Addiction To Disaster Porn (http://www.creators.com/opinion/david-sirota/our-addiction-to-disaster-porn.html)
and the not-so-serious:
http://www.theappleofdiscord.com/wp-content/uploads/2011-01-28.png

Ranger
04-16-13, 12:44 PM
PLEASE don't blame it on firearms!
It's not guns. It's bombs. Congress needs to ban them.

Hoosier Daddy
04-16-13, 01:29 PM
It's not guns. It's bombs. Congress needs to ban them.
Please don't give them ideas. I have nightmares about when Congress finds out that the biggest school massacre was perpetrated with a bomb, not guns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster).

Since bombs can be made from fertilizer, there will be laws that require background checks to buy fertilizer and nobody will be able to buy a bag that contains more than 8 ounces. The reduced farm yields lead to mass starvation and a future that makes the Road Warrior look like heaven in comparison. Then I wake up in a cold sweat.

drewsdeville
04-16-13, 02:20 PM
Well, you guys didn't waste any time politicizing it already, beginning mere hours after it's occurance. Well done.

BlueAngel#07
04-16-13, 03:25 PM
Well, you guys didn't waste any time politicizing it already, beginning mere hours after it's occurance. Well done.

It's not that....it just like giving vanity to garbage. No disrespect.....and No comfort to the enemy!

orconn
04-16-13, 04:20 PM
Once again the press tries to out do themselves with over used and under appreciated superlatives. "Unmatched" and "unparalleled" heroism! While those that helped in the aftermath of the explosions in Boston are to be lauded for their rendering of assistance in the face of serious injury to their fellow citizens. I have come to realized after exposure to many situation of violence and tragedy in civilian venues and in war zones, that the propensity to run to help as opposed to the run for safety is a genetic attribute for which those who act either way really have no control. Thank God for those individuals who always help in an emergency and in some cases their actions may in fact be "heroism," but to compare their actions to those of people who inspite of on going danger put their comrades lives ahead of their own safety is to debase the term and accolade "hero."

My sympathy and heart goes out to those who died or were injured in the bombing yesterday at the Boston Marathon, but I do feel that the media's over attention to this event has more to do with the presses hubris, than with meaningful news coverage.

Submariner409
04-16-13, 04:48 PM
Curiously, NONE of this discussion is "politicized". No mention of party, elected official, motive, whatever.

Bombs, knives, guns and poison are apolitical - Of themselves they make no distinctions of who or what is killed or harmed.......... but what about the human being(s) that did the deed ? Apolitical ???? Not for one skinny second.

Curiously, TBJS is far off the 'religion' remark too - IF the perpetrator does, in fact, turn out to be a Saudi jihadist, then how do you discount the fact that he acted with the full urging and blessing of his religious leaders/beliefs ? As a "minister" TBJS can be very hypocritical at times - in other places/discussions. "Christian" ???? We're not exactly lily-white over the centuries - downright bigoted, as a matter of fact. Crusades, for starters ??? I was born/raised as a Roman Catholic - one of the most bigoted religions on the planet.

EDIT: Have we all forgotten the horrific bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City ??? ......... and that was done by an idealistic "American", killing dozens of children in the process.

Hoosier Daddy
04-16-13, 05:17 PM
You guys continue with your political banter. I'll bring in religion. Was this God's will? No.


Curiously, TBJS is far off the 'religion' remark too - IF the perpetrator does, in fact, turn out to be a Saudi jihadist, then how do you discount the fact that he acted with the full urging and blessing of his religious leaders/beliefs ? As a "minister" TBJS can be very hypocritical at times - in other places/discussions. "Christian" ???? Not exactly lily-white over the centuries - downright bigoted, as a matter of fact. Crusades, for starters ??? I was born/raised as a Roman Catholic - one of the most bigoted religions on the planet.
Technically his post was somewhat non sequitur. He said he'll bring in religion but only asked if this was God's will. Religion and God are two very different things. Religion is based on man's always flawed and often exploitive interpretation of God's will. And for Christian readers, you can't really say if some current event was God's will or not. Either he works in mysterious ways or he doesn't. If its possible to understand his involvement in all things, where is the mystery?

thebigjimsho
04-16-13, 05:18 PM
Curiously, NONE of this discussion is "politicized". No mention of party, elected official, motive, whatever.

Bombs, knives, guns and poison are apolitical - Of themselves they make no distinctions of who or what is killed or harmed.......... but what about the human being(s) that did the deed ? Apolitical ???? Not for one skinny second.

Curiously, TBJS is far off the 'religion' remark too - IF the perpetrator does, in fact, turn out to be a Saudi jihadist, then how do you discount the fact that he acted with the full urging and blessing of his religious leaders/beliefs ? As a "minister" TBJS can be very hypocritical at times - in other places/discussions. "Christian" ???? We're not exactly lily-white over the centuries - downright bigoted, as a matter of fact. Crusades, for starters ??? I was born/raised as a Roman Catholic - one of the most bigoted religions on the planet.

So because a religious leader says to do this for God, then it was really God's will? Hypocritical? Learn what that means when you say it. You don't.

vincentm
04-16-13, 05:53 PM
Technically his post was somewhat non sequitur. He said he'll bring in religion but only asked if this was God's will. Religion and God are two very different things. Religion is based on man's always flawed and often exploitive interpretation of God's will. And for Christian readers, you can't really say if some current event was God's will or not. Either he works in mysterious ways or he doesn't. If its possible to understand his involvement in all things, where is the mystery?

It's all mythology to me.., i prefer not to believe in imaginary friends

Hoosier Daddy
04-16-13, 05:57 PM
It's all mythology to me.., i prefer not to believe in imaginary friends
Amen brother. Its a good thing what we don't know can't hurt us. ;)

Which reminds me, when are the 2012 Darwin Award winners going to be announced?

drewsdeville
04-16-13, 06:33 PM
Curiously, NONE of this discussion is "politicized". No mention of party, elected official, motive, whatever.

Really? Even the big obvious religion hint by Jim didn't sink in, huh? Let's take a look at what's been mentioned in the last 24 hours, in a thread based on this event:




If the "person of interest" is in fact a Saudi, does this mean we send them yet more money to keep them as allies ???


A question of foreign policy.


No, some semi-literate member of the underclass, or psychopathic member of the population that the legal system and mental health practitioners don't want to deprive of the "constitutional rights, pick up inanimate firearms and activate them killing thousands of innocent Americans each year.

Self explanatory. Obviously in tandem with the recent flare up of second ammendment "rights" (lol), along with others:


PLEASE don't blame it on firearms!



Too bad the terrorists didn't use "assault rifles"



It's not guns. It's bombs. Congress needs to ban them.


............ but the firearms jumped off the table or out of the closet, walked into the store and committed murder all by themselves, right ?

Another quote thrown into the mix for good measure:




Since bombs can be made from fertilizer, there will be laws that require background checks to buy fertilizer and nobody will be able to buy a bag that contains more than 8 ounces. The reduced farm yields lead to mass starvation and a future that makes the Road Warrior look like heaven in comparison. Then I wake up in a cold sweat.

Lots of discussion on policy, "rights", the Constitution, Congress, and law... Quite political. Partisan? Maybe, maybe not - but political nonetheless. Is any of it relevant to what happened? Not really - any alteration of the above quoted topics most likely would NOT have prevented the tragedy from happening - so why focus on it when there's everything else to worry about? Or, are you one of those crazies that thinks this your "duty" as a US citizen to jam your political opinions and beliefs everywhere you can find room, including where they don't belong (read: pretensious BS)?

Stingroo
04-16-13, 06:56 PM
In before the :lock:

A terribly sad day for all of those involved. I had several friends near the race. None of them were hurt. Thoughts go out to those affected.

Submariner409
04-16-13, 07:54 PM
No thread locks here - It's fun watching us all make fools of ourselves in public print.

As far as the "Saudi" individual goes, I originally hedged my bet on that one - and to advantage because it now appears that the "person of interest" in not involved.

Scary that the IED has come to America. Even with all our so-called "security measures" we still trust everyone - as it should be: The idea of all this "terrorism" is to isolate us from each other, thus destroying the country from within......... and it works.

Bottom line: Boston is still a national tragedy (like several other recent tragedies) - and someone, somewhere did it because they have some sort of warped axe to grind. The truly sad part is that, like most other tragedies wash out, the perpetrator(s) will - most likely - eventually go scot free.

thebigjimsho
04-17-13, 08:42 AM
Agreed.

Jesda
04-17-13, 09:38 AM
I'm not locking this one either. I'll leave it to the admins and other mods to decide.

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The violence and shock of the attack looked like one of those videos you see of Syria. Friend of mine ran the marathon and I was very glad to hear he was okay.

talismandave
04-17-13, 08:51 PM
We may need to consider legislation to restrict the capacity of pressure cookers.

Not to ban them, but there is no reason someone needs one over 4 QT.

orconn
04-17-13, 09:02 PM
^^^ This is an affront to my culinary freedoms and other prerogatives, etc., etc.! I demand to be able to own and cook with any size pressure cooker I choose!

cadillac kevin
04-17-13, 09:03 PM
We may need to consider legislation to restrict the capacity of pressure cookers.

Not to ban them, but there is no reason someone needs one over 4 QT.
LOL.....good point Dave

Kad4Life
04-17-13, 09:47 PM
We may need to consider legislation to restrict the capacity of pressure cookers.

Not to ban them, but there is no reason someone needs one over 4 QT.

Obviously Sir, you do not can food .
My Wife would take issue ... :D

Cadillac Kid03
04-17-13, 09:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7j0K_vh9FY

talismandave
04-17-13, 10:24 PM
Obviously Sir, you do not can food .
My Wife would take issue ... :D
You pressure cooker lovers always trot out that same old excuse. There is no reason you can't can with a smaller cooker, you just have to reload more times. These large capacity cookers hold too much death and destruction.
For the safety and security of our nation we have to be willing to make small sacrifices.

orconn
04-17-13, 10:36 PM
But you forget, pressure cookers don't kill .....people do!

Jesda
04-17-13, 11:47 PM
Never used a pressure cooker but now I kind of want one:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Columnist/Columnists/2011/4/28/1303989591270/RICHARD-EHRLICH-S-DUCK-CA-007.jpg

orconn
04-17-13, 11:59 PM
Pressure cookers are great for short ribs, corned beef and many of dishes that require long moist cooking.

talismandave
04-18-13, 12:26 AM
Put a cheap cut of beef roast, and potatoes in one and the meat falls apart, and the potatoes are the best you have ever had.

Ranger
04-18-13, 12:09 PM
Maybe that's what I need for goose breast. Can't seem to find a good way to do them.

Stoneage_Caddy
04-18-13, 10:26 PM
Meanwhile in texas ......where people actually enjoy and use internal combustion engines ....there are far worse things going on ....

so we can now ban guns , pressure cookers , and fertilizer .....

and leave the toyota corollas to do the real killing/terrorizing

CadillacLuke24
04-19-13, 03:38 AM
Meanwhile in texas ......where people actually enjoy and use internal combustion engines ....there are far worse things going on ....

so we can now ban guns , pressure cookers , and fertilizer .....

and leave the toyota corollas to do the real killing/terrorizing

Careful what you say. Those are the most popular car EVAR in the Middle East. Before we know it Achmed will import one and go on a rampage.

Cadillac Kid03
04-19-13, 03:52 AM
More Bombs i think. http://news.yahoo.com/police-converge-neighborhood-outside-boston-055919935.html

thebigjimsho
04-19-13, 07:36 AM
I'm creeped out at how I always seem to be in the middle of this.

I picked up a client in Cambridge last night, at Central Sq. Couldn't get down Mass Ave. Went over to Main St. Couldn't get down Main. Finally made it over to the Longfellow Bridge. MGH T stop was packed with officers. That was because the MIT officer was killed.

After driving my last client, I head home on Soldiers Field Road. I see about 100 police cars, from MANY towns. State Police, government vehicles, etc, just swarming in all directions all around the Charles River. This is at about 1:30AM.

So I sit at McDs on Soldiers Field Road in Allston, looking across the river into Watertown seeing so many blue lights. Helicopters overhead. Just staring into the night, waiting for anyone to show. Phone in hand, waiting to report anything. An unmarked trooper sits in the lot for awhile.

So I stayed there for a couple of hours, listening to the news, waiting for anything.

ben.gators
04-19-13, 07:51 AM
This is totally crazy! I have my laptop computer on may lap, and following the live news.... There is a new development every minute!

By the way, stay safe, bigjim!

thebigjimsho
04-19-13, 09:47 AM
I'm back home in Worcester now. I should be OK...

HAZZARDJOHN
04-19-13, 11:30 AM
I am just waiting for the Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev and Taylor Swift rumors to start <-- Too soon? :hide:

thebigjimsho
04-19-13, 01:50 PM
I'll ignore that. Eastern MA is paralyzed while this turd tries to flee. This is chaos. I've never seen anything like this...

Kad4Life
04-19-13, 02:29 PM
Yeah, never seen the like .
Everything is closed; people have been told to stay in their homes, and it seems like they're cooperating .
Unheard of for the Pay State .

Jesda
04-19-13, 02:38 PM
I'm stunned by this as well. Glad I don't live in a densely populated area (well, dense compared to Boston or NYC).

CadillacLuke24
04-19-13, 03:14 PM
Stay safe Jim.

Man this is getting ugly quick. I hope they can nab that moron before he can do anything else.

orconn
04-19-13, 04:24 PM
I think that the Federal , state and local response on the part of the public safety entities is unique in our experience and is to be lauded for their cooperation and apparent willingness to put aside jurisdictional infighting and other bureaucratic hubris to try and bring this sad event to a swift close. This phenomenon is certainly welcome as again we come to grips with terrorist acts.

Having experienced citywide mayhem in the L.A. Riots and the hardship that results from natural disasters such as earthquakes I am very glad to see the people of Boston pull together and cooperate with the authorities to bring closure to the city and surrounding areas.

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While authorities in Boston ask that businesses remain closed while the search for the 2nd suspect continues, they also, reportedly, made a request that Dunkin' Donut stores remain open throughout the city. Glad to see some one had their priorities right!

dkozloski
04-19-13, 05:18 PM
The LEOs have their own addiction.

Jesda
04-19-13, 05:37 PM
I wonder if the guy is already hiding in the mountains up in Vermont.

thebigjimsho
04-19-13, 09:04 PM
This is tiring. This week has been insane. Looks like he's done, dead or alive...

HAZZARDJOHN
04-19-13, 09:43 PM
The scanner said suspect in custody.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
04-19-13, 09:55 PM
The news is blaring that he's been caught, alive. Thank God! Boston can rest easy!!

Ranger
04-19-13, 10:05 PM
That was quick. Inside of 5 days they identified, located and captured/killed them. WOW!

thebigjimsho
04-19-13, 10:16 PM
This was like watching a season of 24, straight. With no commercials...

Stingroo
04-19-13, 10:27 PM
Good. Hang him high.

orconn
04-19-13, 11:11 PM
Just goes to show what can happen when law enforcement agencies work and communicate together instead of playing bureaucratic games, that has so often been the case, and not cooperating in the efforts and the sharing of information. The police action of the last week, and the inclusion of civilians to help identify the suspects, shows how counterproductive the lack of cooperation, and downright antagonism, between local, state and Federal law enforcement agencies has crippled their ability to identify and bring to justice criminal behavior in the past.

Let's hope the events in Boston provide a strong interaction between law enforcement entities in the future.

CadillacLuke24
04-19-13, 11:46 PM
:yeah:

Glad the got 'im!