: Question on the AWD suspension



josey88
04-13-13, 11:47 PM
Ok, I am eyeing an 2013 or 14 SRX Performance . The thing is that in order to get the variable damping suspension I would have to get the AWD option , which I really do not need because I live in Florida
My question is : Is the variable damping worth the AWD option ? Cadillac advertises it as great , but I would like opinions from owners that have it , before chosing which way I will go . Thanks

TheCaptain
04-14-13, 12:16 PM
I haven't driven one without the variable damping... But its pretty handy on my '10 and '13 to go from tour to sport and carve some corners!

beachcad
04-15-13, 09:38 AM
IMO you should consider the benefits of AWD, beyond just an ice and snow application. We live in Florida also, and I wanted my wife to have the AWD system for the increased handling capability. It is a distinct saftey advantage providing much better traction in rain as well as dry pavement cornering or emergency maneuvering. When we decided to purchase her SRX last July, there were only 3 AWD models in the whole state of Florida. I would have preferred the Performance collection, but we found a Luxury collection that had the colors my wife liked and the AWD that I wanted her SRX to have. The timing was such that we were not able to order a new SRX and that caused us to choose from the current inventory. Again, I feel that too many people do not think of the AWD benefits beyond just the ice and snow capabilities and therefore the selection becomes extremely limited in the southern US. Lastly, if you have the AWD and decide to venture out of Florida to a region that does have ice and snow, well you've got that covered too!

Marc NY
04-15-13, 11:08 AM
My wife always gets an AWD vehicle and recently (my last 5 vehicles) I have just gotten FWD. However, I might just try out a SRX with AWD next time around. :)

beachcad
04-15-13, 11:26 AM
There's a good reason that many high end sports cars have awd systems, and it's certainly not to contend with inclement weather! I believe that future vehicles will all have awd for the safety benefits.

josey88
04-15-13, 05:26 PM
I guess that AWD is worth it , then .

zinner
04-19-13, 11:49 PM
I have the 2.8t awd with the mr suspension. Its not worth it on the SRX. I have owned a cts-v and now a regal gs both with adjustable suspension, they are both worth it. Particularly because the have driver activated sport modes which firm up the ride very noticeably. The SRX is just one mode and I can't see any benefit from it.

miamictsv
04-22-13, 04:27 PM
I am also in Florida and we got 2013 SRX AWD Performance collection for my wife. We had to get ours all the way from Chicago as we looked for specific color in and out and options. I do think that AWD is so much better for our Rainy season and the extra 2.5K is well worth it. Like people already mentioned more stable in rain, you can punch it off the line and just go and better overall driving dynamics then the FWD. We do also venture out of Florida for some ski to North Carolina and at that point it is a must. Now, a Supercharger is in the works for the SRX so if you decide to add power FWD will not give you much traction :)) If you are going to use the SRX like a point A to point B vehicle ( like to work and back ) FWD will do just fine.

adamjeeps
04-22-13, 04:38 PM
Check out that low clearance front bumper and valance, you are not going to want to go through any more than 3 to 4 inches before risk of damage to the body. The SRX is not meant for snow. My grand prix has more clearance, lol!

beachcad
04-23-13, 09:37 AM
Check out that low clearance front bumper and valance, you are not going to want to go through any more than 3 to 4 inches before risk of damage to the body. The SRX is not meant for snow. My grand prix has more clearance, lol!

Hey Adam, you're right the SRX wouldn't do well plowing through snow, but you should check out the video from the Captain that shows what the AWD - SRX can do in the ice and snow!

TheCaptain
04-23-13, 10:55 AM
Adam, you are quite wrong when it comes to the SRX in snow (on winter tires). I have lots of first hand experience with the SRX in snow, and as long as you keep the snow below the upper grill, it just keeps going. (AWD w/snow tires of course). This thing is a better snow machine then 4x4 trucks, because of the adaptability of the Haldex AWD system, just because it has a low valence doesn't mean anything!

beachcad
04-23-13, 11:04 AM
Adam, you are quite wrong when it comes to the SRX in snow (on winter tires). I have lots of first hand experience with the SRX in snow, and as long as you keep the snow below the upper grill, it just keeps going. (AWD w/snow tires of course). This thing is a better snow machine then 4x4 trucks, because of the adaptability of the Haldex AWD system, just because it has a low valence doesn't mean anything!

I stand corrected by the guy who knows! I guess the AWD - SRX 'is' able to plow through the snow.
Captain, could you post the link to your video again? I remember it being very impressive.

adamjeeps
04-23-13, 11:10 AM
Adam, you are quite wrong when it comes to the SRX in snow (on winter tires). I have lots of first hand experience with the SRX in snow, and as long as you keep the snow below the upper grill, it just keeps going. (AWD w/snow tires of course). This thing is a better snow machine then 4x4 trucks, because of the adaptability of the Haldex AWD system, just because it has a low valence doesn't mean anything!

Come on now, the SRX is a great vehicle but that is just crazy talk. There is no way you are going to go through deeper snow than a truck. I can barely fit my hand under the front end, and good luck when you hit something more solid than loose snow, something is going to break off that low valance.

I have driven my Avalanche through over a foot of unplowed snow. The 50/50 weight distribution, clearance, and locking rear axle (not even counting some suv's and trucks with front lockers) will eat the SRX alive.

Where is this video that was mentioned above?

TheCaptain
04-23-13, 06:26 PM
http://youtu.be/7q_AQknfsUw

http://youtu.be/tjBfNf3tEFE

A foot of unplowed snow eh? That's nice. Earlier this winter, I drove straight off the road into (what I didn't know) was snow as deep as the lower point of the upper grille. I ended up stopping halfway through this section because I didn't turn Stabilitrack off and it stopped me. I turned ST off, the vehicle sunk down to the ground and I went 'oh $hit'! I backed up to see the snow piled up in front of me and an imprint of the whole front end (headlights, grill, Wreath and Crest) in the bank. I took a small run (one vehicle length) and rammed through the pile I built, kept going through the snow and back up onto the snow packed road in which you see in this picture (where I sunk is directly behind where I parked- as the crow flies, where the fish cleaning station is- what looks like roof racks on my vehicle). I should have gotten a picture of it in the deep snow, but I never thought to.
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o51/TheCaptain07/10%20SRX%20WinterSpring/20121221_134225_zps5781264a.jpg (http://s117.photobucket.com/user/TheCaptain07/media/10%20SRX%20WinterSpring/20121221_134225_zps5781264a.jpg.html)

I went over to our cabin and backed into the driveway, checked out the cabin, hopped back in and drove out. The snow was much shallower here. This was all evenly flat before I drove into it. You can definitely see the valence drag marks here.
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o51/TheCaptain07/10%20SRX%20WinterSpring/20121221_134848_zpsecaf2201.jpg (http://s117.photobucket.com/user/TheCaptain07/media/10%20SRX%20WinterSpring/20121221_134848_zpsecaf2201.jpg.html)

300:29:1
04-23-13, 07:00 PM
I can tell you guys that I've driven my Honda Fit in moderate snow with FWD and done very well. That vehicle is about as low as they get. The SRX with AWD has been very good for me in Central New York State winters. That whole low front end thing is not an end all for driving in snow. The SRX is heavy and this helps in rain as well in my experience.

adamjeeps
04-23-13, 09:03 PM
No doubt the all wheel drive pushes through the snow very well and the front end acts as a plow. I just would not want to be using my front end as a plow in deep snow. Something will eventually scratch or break or both.

My wife isn't driving in snow anyway so we didn't feel it necessary to get awd. Glad it works so well for you snow birds!

beachcad
04-24-13, 09:51 AM
No doubt the all wheel drive pushes through the snow very well and the front end acts as a plow. I just would not want to be using my front end as a plow in deep snow. Something will eventually scratch or break or both.

My wife isn't driving in snow anyway so we didn't feel it necessary to get awd. Glad it works so well for you snow birds!

I think many people confuse the new generation AWD systems with the older generation part-time 4-wheel drive systems. The older 4-wheel drive systems were intended for off-road or snow and ice types of use. They could not even be used on dry pavement due to the lack of limited slip capabilities. The new AWD systems have a much broader application than just as a replacement of the older generation 4-wheel drive systems. They are intended for 'full-time' use and go well beyond traversing snow or climbing hills. The AWD systems undeniably increase traction and provide a much better handling, and therefore safer vehicle. It isn't 'necessary' to have traction control or ABS either (albeit laws now require them in almost every new vehicle), but most people realize the benefit in those systems. I believe the same will become true with AWD.