: Cd player wiring harness for a 96



85 FLEETWOOD COUPE
04-11-13, 04:28 PM
sup guys im going to be installing a double din in my 96,i know the 96 and i think the 95 had a special wiring harness that goes to the trunk then back to the front but i cant find it no where, i went to local audio shops they was lost,so im pretty sure guys on here had the same problem and can guide me in the right direction thanks much

Poda
04-11-13, 05:01 PM
sup guys im going to be installing a double din in my 96,i know the 96 and i think the 95 had a special wiring harness that goes to the trunk then back to the front but i cant find it no where, i went to local audio shops they was lost,so im pretty sure guys on here had the same problem and can guide me in the right direction thanks much

This is what I used..

http://www.carid.com/1996-cadillac-fleetwood-stereo-installation/metra-wiring-harness-4731758.html

I also have a 12" standard GM adapter harness I used in a 95 Trans Am, 94 Camaro, 97 Sunfire, and others, and when I tested a used DIN unit I used that and hooked it into the trunk of the Fleetwood - worked fine, only difference between the two is the length of the wires and antenna cable extension. Worst case, get a standard harness and extend the wires yourself, although you then have to additionally get the antenna cable extension also

turbojimmy
04-11-13, 05:31 PM
All of the aftermarket listings for these things are WRONG. The '96 has a "normal", integrated amplifier in the head unit. '96 does not have the amp in the back and the associated wiring. And the aftermarket kits they sell are wrong, too - the radio mounts differently. I made a '93-95 faceplate work, but only after hacking it apart and just using the "ears" to mount the radio. I posted a thread on it here somewhere.

85 FLEETWOOD COUPE
04-14-13, 01:27 PM
I cant find that thread

turbojimmy
04-14-13, 02:09 PM
I couldn't find it either. I don't know what kit would ultimately work, but I do know that the ones that lump the 96 in with 93-95 are incorrect.

85 FLEETWOOD COUPE
04-14-13, 02:51 PM
So all i need is that harness that poda posted the link on , i dont have to run nothing to the trunk then back up front to the unit

turbojimmy
04-14-13, 05:59 PM
So all i need is that harness that poda posted the link on , i dont have to run nothing to the trunk then back up front to the unit

No, that was my point. It says '93-'96, but it's not correct for the '96. That harness runs from front to back - it's 204" long. You don't need that.

I tried a kit for a '96 Impala and it was wrong. I ultimately cut stock harness off the radio and soldered my own connections. It's not hard if you have the wiring diagram.

axe
04-14-13, 07:07 PM
I have a '94 so I can't speak from any personal experience about the harness but I believe everything Jimmy told you is true.

I don't know if you have removed the head unit yet to look but I would just like to mention that it's a very tight fit getting an aftermarket unit in there. You will probably need to cut the plastic backing which the original radio hangs on to, this will give you maybe 3/4" - 1" extra clearance - if I'm not mistaken. Only cut the lower part where the radio goes and leave the upper part where the AC unit sits. This is if you have to cut at all that is, the '96 might also be different from my '94 dash.

I have a Pioneer AppRadio 2 installed in mine and I think it's 6 - 6.5" deep, it was a super tight squeeze getting it in. I used the Metra 99-2003 installation kit which was very flimsy and one hole and dovel pin indent didn't line up to the bottom plate (reused from original radio mounting), but it was at least better than nothing.

85 FLEETWOOD COUPE
04-14-13, 09:46 PM
ok i see now so i can use this and try to find it localy? i dont have the means to buy over the net Brand: Metra Part Number: 70-1856 UPC: 086429087167

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I have a '94 so I can't speak from any personal experience about the harness but I believe everything Jimmy told you is true.

I don't know if you have removed the head unit yet to look but I would just like to mention that it's a very tight fit getting an aftermarket unit in there. You will probably need to cut the plastic backing which the original radio hangs on to, this will give you maybe 3/4" - 1" extra clearance - if I'm not mistaken. Only cut the lower part where the radio goes and leave the upper part where the AC unit sits. This is if you have to cut at all that is, the '96 might also be different from my '94 dash.

I have a Pioneer AppRadio 2 installed in mine and I think it's 6 - 6.5" deep, it was a super tight squeeze getting it in. I used the Metra 99-2003 installation kit which was very flimsy and one hole and dovel pin indent didn't line up to the bottom plate (reused from original radio mounting), but it was at least better than nothing.i havent took mine out yet but ive heard to you can cut the pastick part in the back to get more room so that a double din can sit in better/flush

turbojimmy
04-14-13, 10:00 PM
ok i see now so i can use this and try to find it localy? i dont have the means to buy over the net Brand: Metra Part Number: 70-1856 UPC: 086429087167[COLOR="Silver"]

I'm not sure if that will work or not. You're probably better off saving the $30 and just splicing in the harness that comes with your new radio. It's not that hard.

axe
04-15-13, 08:14 AM
i havent took mine out yet but ive heard to you can cut the pastick part in the back to get more room so that a double din can sit in better/flush

Yes, that plastic part probably gotta go. It's just that even with it gone it can still be a bit tight, a deeper head unit wont fit properly. Considering the size of the dash one would believe space wouldn't be an issue in these cars.

85 FLEETWOOD COUPE
04-15-13, 09:35 AM
yea but let me ask yall this,do other brand double dins fit better then the other??

Poda
04-15-13, 12:26 PM
In terms of mounting kits I fabbed my own for my single DIN Kenwood - piece of sheetmetal cut to width (from an old stereo CD player, IIRC), with ~1" lip folded at a 90 degree angle on the top and bottom. Drilled the holes for the mounting hardware off the old radio, and spray painted the whole thing flat black. Looks a lot better than the plastic mounting kits I've seen and looks like it belongs there. I'm about to pull it out this week to get behind there for something else - I can snap some pics if you want to get an idea..

Edit: oops - missed that you're installing a double din..

85 FLEETWOOD COUPE
04-15-13, 08:35 PM
LOL WISH I CAN FIND THE OLDER THREADS ON DOUBLE DINS,I SEEN THEM BUT NEVER PAID ATTENTION TO THEM:bonkers:

turbojimmy
04-15-13, 08:43 PM
LOL WISH I CAN FIND THE OLDER THREADS ON DOUBLE DINS,I SEEN THEM BUT NEVER PAID ATTENTION TO THEM:bonkers:

Yeah, I had posted step by step with pics. I'll have to look a little harder.

Even with the plastic hacked out, you only have like 6.75" tops. Look for something with that kind of depth. It's not easy.

85 FLEETWOOD COUPE
04-15-13, 09:15 PM
Dang pics always a plus bro,

turbojimmy
04-15-13, 09:39 PM
Found the pics:

This is the '96 radio. It mounts like the later model cars - with "ears" on the sides. I haven't had my '94 radio out, but my understanding is that it mounts on the top and bottom? That's what the installation kit shows, anyway.
http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii636/jestoltz/96%20Fleetwood%20Radio/3200dvd-3_zps5b72fc67.jpg

This is the plastic that gets cut out:
http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii636/jestoltz/96%20Fleetwood%20Radio/3200dvd-7_zps08672c38.jpg

Plastic hacked out:
http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii636/jestoltz/96%20Fleetwood%20Radio/3200dvd-6_zpsaee2e21e.jpg

The only part of the kit I used was some bits of plastic to make "ears" on the new Pioneer head unit (AVH-3200DVD). It was tricky getting the depth right.
http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii636/jestoltz/96%20Fleetwood%20Radio/3200dvd-4_zpsc74abdeb.jpg

All done:
http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii636/jestoltz/96%20Fleetwood%20Radio/3200dvd-2_zps9bb85341.jpg

85 FLEETWOOD COUPE
04-15-13, 10:15 PM
:thumbsup: GREAT VERY HELPFULL,SO THE BIG PLUG IS THE ONLY 1 THAT GETS USED,NOT THE SMALLER ONES THATS PICTURED ON THE BOTTOM SIDE

turbojimmy
04-15-13, 10:19 PM
The big plug is the HVAC controls. The smaller ones are the radio. I made my own harness that plugs into those connectors by snipping the connector off of the stock radio.

85 FLEETWOOD COUPE
04-15-13, 10:32 PM
So if i cut the harness are all the wires the same color as the cd player/double dins?

turbojimmy
04-16-13, 06:44 AM
No, they're not the same color. I had also posted a mapping of the Caddy wire colors to the aftermarket radio wiring (which are standardized). I have it scribbled in my '96 factory service manual. I'll see if I can find it later.

85 FLEETWOOD COUPE
04-16-13, 02:51 PM
OK KINDA FIGURED THAT,YEA PLEASE DO IF POSSIBLE:thumbsup:

turbojimmy
04-16-13, 05:52 PM
Here's the deal. The wire colors coming from the harness are different than those coming from the radio. So when you cut the connector from the radio, you need to map the wires to your new radio's harness. When you cut the harness from the radio, leave enough slack so you can connect your aftermarket harness to it (like enough wire to solder or use butt connectors). In the pics below, the wire color I wrote in is the color on the factory radio's plug.

http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii636/jestoltz/radio_connector_BLUE_zps454dd405.jpg

http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii636/jestoltz/radio_connector_WHITE_zps18a4b2e3.jpg

Obviously you could see the mapping if you plugged the connector in, but I went through the trouble of writing it down so I could assemble a harness on a workbench rather than in the dash.

85 FLEETWOOD COUPE
04-17-13, 01:42 PM
HEY THANKS YOU BEEN VERY HELPFULL BRO, WHEN IT COMES TO THAT TIME ILL SEE IF I WILL CUT THE HARNESS OR NOT DEPENDS IF I GET THE DOUBLE DIN FIRST,WELL I DO HAVE A REGULAR CD PLAYER I WONDER IF I SHOULD PRACTICE WITH THAT HMNNNN:ill:

85 FLEETWOOD COUPE
05-17-13, 02:24 AM
i couldnt find myself cutting the harness just yet,can some 1 show me a link to the correct harness first, like on amazon.com etc

turbojimmy
05-18-13, 06:50 AM
i couldnt find myself cutting the harness just yet,can some 1 show me a link to the correct harness first, like on amazon.com etc

If I could find one, I'd have used it. You don't have to cut the harness in the car - you cut the one off the radio to make an "adapter". If it makes you feel better, try to find a '96 junkyard radio. The Cadillac radios are unique, though. I tried a harness from a '96 Caprice/Roadmaster and it was totally different.

I'm sure an adapter exists - there has to be another GM car with the same arrangement. But, the real problem is that everyone shows the '93-96 Fleetwood radios as being the same. This is incorrect - the '96 is unique.

85 FLEETWOOD COUPE
05-18-13, 10:31 PM
Yea its nuts,i got my whole system just sitting here but cant use it because the damn adapter lol

diamondhill
09-11-13, 05:42 PM
i just bought a 96 fleetwood and im wanting to install a aftermarket head unit also , im willing to cut into the factory radio harness, do you have pics of what it looks like conected to the aftermarket radio harness?

turbojimmy
09-15-13, 02:37 PM
i just bought a 96 fleetwood and im wanting to install a aftermarket head unit also , im willing to cut into the factory radio harness, do you have pics of what it looks like conected to the aftermarket radio harness?

I don't, sorry. You don't have to cut the car's harness, you cut the plug off the "pigtail" on the stock radio. That plug plugs directly into the car's factory harness. You can use it to make an adapter using your new radio's harness.

kyle_mac
09-29-14, 09:51 PM
you wouldn't happen to have the description of the aftermarket wiring