: New mats and tire cover



jamespowers
04-07-13, 12:42 PM
I was wondering if anyone knows of a source for interior mats for my brougham. My car is Corinthian blue.

I also need a spare tire cover but I can't use the original from 1986 as I put in a full size spare. I think a 77 spare tire cover should do nicely. The problem is I cannot find one. :rant2: Anyone know of a source for these? Thanks!

cadillac kevin
04-07-13, 02:21 PM
I was wondering if anyone knows of a source for interior mats for my brougham. My car is Corinthian blue.

I also need a spare tire cover but I can't use the original from 1986 as I put in a full size spare. I think a 77 spare tire cover should do nicely. The problem is I cannot find one. :rant2: Anyone know of a source for these? Thanks!

Is corinthian blue light blue or dark blue? I come across blue caddy floor mats every once in a while in the junkyard. FWD mats will work, but IIRC, you will have to cut a slit in the drivers mat so it goes around the pedal mount on the floor.
As for the tire cover- maybe getting a second small spare cover and sewing the side panel onto your small spare tire cover?

jamespowers
04-07-13, 03:25 PM
Is corinthian blue light blue or dark blue? I come across blue caddy floor mats every once in a while in the junkyard. FWD mats will work, but IIRC, you will have to cut a slit in the drivers mat so it goes around the pedal mount on the floor.
As for the tire cover- maybe getting a second small spare cover and sewing the side panel onto your small spare tire cover?

It is a dark blue. For some reason my driver's side one disappeared. I might as well get a set so they will all match. Let me know what you find.

That would work if I had the original tire cover. :p The spare tire, hold down and cover were missing. I elected to go with a full size tire. I thought the jack and tire iron were missing too but when I replaced the tire, I lifted the forward trunk cardboard and found I still had the original one---never used. So I have a spare jack and jack handle but I will live. :p The junkyard I went to to get the tire had a 77 but the tire cover was missing--darn it!

Bro-Ham
04-07-13, 07:48 PM
1977 Cadillacs had the first year of the compact spare tire.

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jayoldschool
04-07-13, 08:51 PM
Look for a cover from a 91-96 Caprice sedan. They came with full size spares. 93-96 Cadillac probably did, too, but I can't confirm.

Poda
04-07-13, 09:01 PM
My 94 Fleetwood has a full size spare mounted on an extra rim. As per on the owner's manual it was an option, but based on what I've seen so far it looks like you only got the compact spare if you deleted the full size on the option list. So most 93-96 Fleetwoods should have a full size. The cover is pretty generic in it's design, and should fit any full size spare no matter where it's mounted (trunk/wheel well, etc)

brougham
04-07-13, 09:11 PM
A lot of the caprices I've seen that I bothered checking anyway just seemed to have the compact spare. Good to know some came with full, have to keep an eye out for a cover. ALtho Im happy with the little one, takes up less trunk space.

jayoldschool
04-07-13, 10:21 PM
I'll check my parts car trunk! The snow has melted. Finally!

drmenard
04-07-13, 11:14 PM
A lot of the caprices I've seen that I bothered checking anyway just seemed to have the compact spare. Good to know some came with full, have to keep an eye out for a cover. ALtho Im happy with the little one, takes up less trunk space. You can only get two bodies in there with a full size spare when you can get three in there with a compact spare,,,

jamespowers
04-08-13, 02:22 AM
I'll check my parts car trunk! The snow has melted. Finally!

Thanks for checking!

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1977 Cadillacs had the first year of the compact spare tire.

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This is a link to a thread from one of our sponsors on the forum for brand new floor mats.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/rwd-19xx-1984-deville-fleetwood-1985/284494-10-forum-member-discount-code-cadillac.html

The 77 in the junkyard had a full sized spare. I guess it was an option back then.

Poda
04-08-13, 09:23 AM
You can only get two bodies in there with a full size spare when you can get three in there with a compact spare,,,

6 bodies if you run run-flats and no spare at all ;)

oldcaddybuyer
04-08-13, 03:20 PM
Both my Roadmasters had full size spares. They may fit as well.

Bro-Ham
04-08-13, 06:47 PM
The 77 in the junkyard had a full sized spare. I guess it was an option back then.

I think folks eventually got rid of the compact spare and put in a full size spare back in the 70's. The original compact spares had to be inflated before using and weren't exactly user friendly. :)

jamespowers
04-08-13, 07:05 PM
I think folks eventually got rid of the compact spare and put in a full size spare back in the 70's. The original compact spares had to be inflated before using and weren't exactly user friendly. :)

I can see that happening. If my mother's 75 Eldorado hadn't come with a full sized spare then I could see my father junking the space saver crap. It has a full size spare in there and I think they made sure it did before they bought the car. lol

jayoldschool
04-08-13, 07:35 PM
Just checked my parts car, it has the cover for a compact spare. That will be going in my SS where I have a compact spare from an 80s Caprice!

jamespowers
04-08-13, 07:48 PM
Just checked my parts car, it has the cover for a compact spare. That will be going in my SS where I have a compact spare from an 80s Caprice!

Darn! Thanks for looking. :D

Bro-Ham
04-08-13, 08:15 PM
I can see that happening. If my mother's 75 Eldorado hadn't come with a full sized spare then I could see my father junking the space saver crap. It has a full size spare in there and I think they made sure it did before they bought the car. lol

I think the reasons Cadillac went to the compact spare in 1977 was to increase trunk space and reduce weight. Cadillac was selling a smaller car and needed every inch possible in the trunk, plus buyers were increasingly concerned about fuel economy and every reduced pound counted. I can't remember a factory full size spare back in the late 70's through the 80's, perhaps on trailer tow package cars, which in those days I don't think was that common of an option. :)

jamespowers
04-08-13, 08:54 PM
I think the reasons Cadillac went to the compact spare in 1977 was to increase trunk space and reduce weight. Cadillac was selling a smaller car and needed every inch possible in the trunk, plus buyers were increasingly concerned about fuel economy and every reduced pound counted. I can't remember a factory full size spare back in the late 70's through the 80's, perhaps on trailer tow package cars, which in those days I don't think was that common of an option. :)

It would have been a common option if I were buying a new Cadillac at that time. :p If you were driving a Cadillac back then, you weren't that worried about gas mileage. :p Only the government was worried.:rolleyes:

cadillac kevin
04-08-13, 08:55 PM
I think the reasons Cadillac went to the compact spare in 1977 was to increase trunk space and reduce weight. Cadillac was selling a smaller car and needed every inch possible in the trunk, plus buyers were increasingly concerned about fuel economy and every reduced pound counted. I can't remember a factory full size spare back in the late 70's through the 80's, perhaps on trailer tow package cars, which in those days I don't think was that common of an option. :)

My 83 lesabre has a full size spare, but I'm not sure if it was original to the car. The rim looks new, and is identical to the 4 steel rims on the car.

jayoldschool
04-08-13, 09:01 PM
I think the reasons Cadillac went to the compact spare in 1977 was to increase trunk space and reduce weight. Cadillac was selling a smaller car and needed every inch possible in the trunk, plus buyers were increasingly concerned about fuel economy and every reduced pound counted. I can't remember a factory full size spare back in the late 70's through the 80's, perhaps on trailer tow package cars, which in those days I don't think was that common of an option. :)

Another reason has to be the increased reliability of radials. On bias plys, on a road trip, chances were pretty good you were going to need that spare!

I know on some full size GM RWDs, ordering posi also got you the full size spare. A smaller donut would burn out the posi if mounted on the rear axle. On my SS, if I get a flat, it's getting flat bedded back to my place. If I have to wait too long, I'll move a front wheel to the back, and put the donut on the front.

jamespowers
04-08-13, 09:05 PM
My 83 lesabre has a full size spare, but I'm not sure if it was original to the car. The rim looks new, and is identical to the 4 steel rims on the car.

It is hard to tell unless we can find either the original invoice or the original options list for the cars in question. I think I remember that the full size spare was an option for most cars of the period but I am not absolutely sure. Then again, the dealers could have been smart enough to offer them as a dealer option. Where there is money to be made, the dealers will take up the slack. :p

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Another reason has to be the increased reliability of radials. On bias plys, on a road trip, chances were pretty good you were going to need that spare!

I know on some full size GM RWDs, ordering posi also got you the full size spare. A smaller donut would burn out the posi if mounted on the rear axle. On my SS, if I get a flat, it's getting flat bedded back to my place. If I have to wait too long, I'll move a front wheel to the back, and put the donut on the front.

Too much work and planning. I think you need a full size spare for that car. lol lol

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Another reason has to be the increased reliability of radials. On bias plys, on a road trip, chances were pretty good you were going to need that spare!

I know on some full size GM RWDs, ordering posi also got you the full size spare. A smaller donut would burn out the posi if mounted on the rear axle. On my SS, if I get a flat, it's getting flat bedded back to my place. If I have to wait too long, I'll move a front wheel to the back, and put the donut on the front.

Too much work and planning. I think you need a full size spare for that car. lol lol

Bro-Ham
04-08-13, 09:10 PM
It would have been a common option if I were buying a new Cadillac at that time. :p If you were driving a Cadillac back then, you weren't that worried about gas mileage. :p Only the government was worried.:rolleyes:

What is your age? I ask because I'm guessing you're young or forgetful - even most Cadillac owners were concerned about gas mileage back in the late 70's, not only for saving money at times of wild price peaks, but, more importantly, economy was a concern for the extra distance you would be able to drive before facing the unknown of a possible gas shortage which would prevent you from getting gas altogether.

jamespowers
04-08-13, 09:22 PM
What is your age? I ask because I'm guessing you're young or forgetful - even most Cadillac owners were concerned about gas mileage back in the late 70's because it wasn't the money you would save with the fuel efficiency, it was the extra distance you would be able to drive before facing the unknown of a possible gas shortage which would prevent you from getting gas altogether.

I remember the gas lines and such. It was a pain but by the end of the 70s we all knew it was going to be fine. The OPECers went back to producing oil and it has just cost more ever since. 73-74 were the worst years. The worst part is what it did to the auto industry for the future. Junk abounded---HT engines and diesels ring a bell?

Bro-Ham
04-08-13, 09:56 PM
I remember the gas lines and such. It was a pain but by the end of the 70s we all knew it was going to be fine. The OPECers went back to producing oil and it has just cost more ever since. 73-74 were the worst years. The worst part is what it did to the auto industry for the future. Junk abounded---HT engines and diesels ring a bell?

I disagree with your statement "by the end of the 70s we knew it was all going to be fine." Again, I think you're either young or forgetful. This is probably a discussion for another thread in a different section of the forum. Let me just say in 1979, in addition to gas lines and record breakingly high gas and energy prices, we also had out of control inflation, astronomical interest rates, turmoil in the middle east including U.S. hostages held in Iran which to that point we had relations and they supplied us with oil, topped off by Jimmah our incompetent president whose failed policies perpetuated the misery. I would say that by the early to mid 80's "we all knew it was going to be fine." Thanks President Reagan!

Good luck finding your spare tire cover! :)

jamespowers
04-08-13, 10:13 PM
Let me just say in 1979, in addition to gas lines and record breakingly high gas and energy prices, we also had out of control inflation, astronomical interest rates, turmoil in the middle east including U.S. hostages held in Iran which to that point we had relations and they supplied us with oil, topped off by Jimmah our incompetent president whose failed policies perpetuated the misery. I would say that by the early to mid 80's "we all knew it was going to be fine." Thanks President Reagan!

Good luck finding your spare tire cover! :)

And Reagan was the reason why we knew it would be better. Reagan just didn't appear in early 80. He was nailing Carter for along time before the election. :p The hostages got released because Reagan was coming. Gas was going down during the campaign because Reagan said we had plenty of oil and we needed to go get it. Interest rates went down but it wasn't until the later part of the 80s before they went down to decent levels. Even in 1986 I was getting 13% in a savings and loan on my savings. lol lol Those were good days to have a savings. :p

I'll check the local junkyard. :p

jayoldschool
04-08-13, 11:25 PM
No politics, gentlemen, please.

carnut
04-10-13, 09:15 PM
On my 84, I used a black vinyl one from a mid eighties Chevy S10 Blazer 4 door. It was elastic around the bottom to stay on. Was used on tailgate mounted spare tires.