: OK, the REAL photos of the 2014 CTS are out now... who designs these cars?!



pologuy
03-27-13, 04:47 AM
OK, as many of you know by now the REAL photos of the 2014 CTS are out now...

While the front is stunningly beautiful - the rear looks like they can't figure out if they want this car to appeal to a "younger" or "older" demographic.

The rear is just plainly a huge step backward (except for the now molded in exhaust tips - which was way past due) from the old (pre-2014) CTS version.

It seems as though they got the new CTS and new XTS mixed up...

If the CTS had the rear of the XTS; and the XTS had the CTS rear - both cars would look more appropriate.

The CTS is a sport sedan - the XTS is a luxury sedan.

Wow, who designs these cars..?

What a huge mismatch!

The front of this CTS is beautiful, as is the rear of the XTS...

Anyone know a good chop-shop? LOL:)

:suspect:

Cadillac Cust Svc
03-27-13, 12:18 PM
We appreciate your honest feedback, pologuy. I'm going to document it where the appropriate GM teams can see, and please let us know if you do have any questions you'd like Customer Service to research!

Best,

Katie
Cadillac Customer Service

RippyPartsDept
03-27-13, 12:58 PM
interesting ... i've heard many people say similar things (front is great, rear sux) but you're one of the first who says that they like the integrated exhaust tips in the bumper ... most usually don't like that

JimmyH
03-27-13, 02:07 PM
I shall repeat myself; the front and rear of this new CTS look like they were designed on two different continents that were at war with each other. It's like two different cars.

caddyfat2
03-27-13, 02:26 PM
The new CTS looks good, maybe I'll trade my new Kizashi for one?
( Yes I'm still lurking around here).:worship:

rustybear3
03-27-13, 03:11 PM
I shall repeat myself; the front and rear of this new CTS look like they were designed on two different continents that were at war with each other. It's like two different cars.

The front end looks like an enlarged ATS grill, coupled with a Ceil lower facia....the back end part XTS in the bumper and an combo ATS/XTS shorten trunk...XTS type interior (layout) with its own unique leather options and console design...we'll see how the public responds this fall....

pologuy
03-27-13, 05:10 PM
I shall repeat myself; the front and rear of this new CTS look like they were designed on two different continents that were at war with each other. It's like two different cars.

Kind of like a one-line condensed version of my post...

And yes, I totally agree.

:canttalk:

Tedboss1
03-28-13, 10:27 AM
We appreciate your honest feedback, pologuy. I'm going to document it where the appropriate GM teams can see, and please let us know if you do have any questions you'd like Customer Service to research!

Best,

Katie
Cadillac Customer Service

Please let GM management know that we need TT 3.6 with all wheel drive.
Competition Mercedes and Audi have AWD cars for reasonable price.

http://wot.motortrend.com/2014-mercedes-benz-cla45-amg-priced-from-48375-346199.html#axzz2Oq2Y9rtx

muohio
03-29-13, 10:48 PM
Please let GM management know that we need TT 3.6 with all wheel drive.
Competition Mercedes and Audi have AWD cars for reasonable price.

http://wot.motortrend.com/2014-mercedes-benz-cla45-amg-priced-from-48375-346199.html#axzz2Oq2Y9rtx

The CTS is not in the same class as the CLA45 AMG. Not really sure what you are trying to get at.

papanots
03-31-13, 11:24 AM
I was anxiously awaiting the 2014 CTS reveal. Put it this way; when the previous generation was revealed, I immediately loved every aspect of every angle in pictures. The 2014 looks to take a step forward....as in forward in age demographic. The front is gorgeous. The interior as well....the back looks like an old man's Mercedes:hmm:. I was waiting for the new model to upgrade from mine...now, I am torn. I will wait to see the new car in person before deciding, but it doesn't look promising. GM hit a homerun with the Corvette Stingray. They seem to have hit a single with the new CTS....batter reached first on an error. This is quite disappointing....:nono:

ultimate_ed
04-01-13, 10:08 AM
I don't know what you guys are smoking.

Maybe being 40 now I just fall into the old man category, but I think the new CTS is gorgeous all around. I fell in love with the 08 CTS and have owned my 09 sedan since they showed up in late 2008.

I really don't get all the hate for the rear end, especially compared to the 2nd generation. Aside from the tail lights, the back of the 2nd generation is pretty nondescript. This new one has a lot more character and I don't see it being confused for the more generic looking rear ends that Lexus, Mercedes, etc are offering.

I am disappointed that with the bigger size that cabin space isn't better. However, aesthetically, I think it is a home run over my current CTS.

DG2
04-01-13, 03:52 PM
I don't know what you guys are smoking.

Maybe being 40 now I just fall into the old man category, but I think the new CTS is gorgeous all around. I fell in love with the 08 CTS and have owned my 09 sedan since they showed up in late 2008.

I really don't get all the hate for the rear end, especially compared to the 2nd generation. Aside from the tail lights, the back of the 2nd generation is pretty nondescript. This new one has a lot more character and I don't see it being confused for the more generic looking rear ends that Lexus, Mercedes, etc are offering.

I am disappointed that with the bigger size that cabin space isn't better. However, aesthetically, I think it is a home run over my current CTS.

No at 40 your a kid in the auto industry demo targets. I'm still in my 40s and as much as I loved the new CTS the rear end was given too conservative of a treatment. Still a smoking hot beautiful car that looks totally unique. But just a toned down rear end vs current CTS.

A great analogy is the new CTS is like seeing Jennifer Lopez in a pair of loose fitting " mom jeans" wearing flat shoes vs seeing Jennifer in super tight designer jeans and high heels !! Big difference right. Well, like Jennifer the new CTS is beautiful it's just wearing " mom jeans"...:)

RippyPartsDept
04-01-13, 04:59 PM
A great analogy is the new CTS is like seeing Jennifer Lopez in a pair of loose fitting " mom jeans" wearing flat shoes vs seeing Jennifer in super tight designer jeans and high heels !! Big difference right. Well, like Jennifer the new CTS is beautiful it's just wearing " mom jeans"...:)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVCtkzIXYzQ

JimmyH
04-01-13, 05:23 PM
I should say I don't think the CTS is an unattractive car. Overall, the shape is okay. The silhouette is just dated, while creases all over the place make the car look oversculpted. And the front and rear faces just don't jibe.
I understand they had to go more extreme with the CTS to set it apart from the ATS (which, btw, I think is one of the best looking sedans ever) They just took it too far in some ways, and not far enough in others. It's like they tried to half-copy the German sedans (which, another btw, I think are pretty hideous these days)

DG2
04-01-13, 05:27 PM
I should say I don't think the CTS is an unattractive car. Overall, the shape is okay. The silhouette is just dated, while creases all over the place make the car look oversculpted. And the front and rear faces just don't jibe.
I understand they had to go more extreme with the CTS to set it apart from the ATS (which, btw, I think is one of the best looking sedans ever) They just took it too far in some ways, and not far enough in others. It's like they tried to half-copy the German sedans (which, another btw, I think are pretty hideous these days)

Agree. It's a great looking car. IMHO ( yeah man just my Lobowsky opinion ) had they tightened up the rear and gave us cooler taller tail lights it would have been off the charts. I'm sure it will grow on us.

JimmyH
04-01-13, 05:31 PM
I went from hating the CTS coupe, to loving it, to now finding it meh. I am certain you are right. For most, it will grow on us. I just think they should have stuck with the ATS silhouette, and given it more aggressive head and tail lights.

al williams
04-01-13, 07:13 PM
I think the front end of the new CTS looks too aggressive for a 4-door. That is the front end that the CTS Coupe needs. The front end of the CTS Coupe is too conservative. Swapping the front ends (which isn't possible, I'm sure) would improve both.

ral1960
04-01-13, 11:24 PM
I have it on good authority that the next CTS-V will have rocket fins.

mik2718
04-02-13, 12:18 AM
Turbo rocket fins or supercharged rocket fins?

rustybear3
04-02-13, 07:33 AM
I went from hating the CTS coupe, to loving it, to now finding it meh. I am certain you are right. For most, it will grow on us. I just think they should have stuck with the ATS silhouette, and given it more aggressive head and tail lights.

Both the CTS coupe as well as this new CTS design is what I label as having "potential"....they needed to take both vehicles a step or two more in design; if you wanted a "Ceil" look in the CTS then give it more of a Ceil front end application with light treatments, etc....continuing with a swept tail light design.....the CTS coupe back end is damn good, but they needed a better match up front to go with the wedge styling.....bottom line: front and rear of both vehicles just don't quite match up.....the ATS on the other hand, was a perfect match from front to rear....destined to be a classic in design IMHO.

droptopron
04-02-13, 11:56 AM
I saw the car at the NY Auto Show and pics don't do it justice. In person its a very nice looking car. Maybe a bit more mature than the current vehicle but that is what is needed for where they want to bring this model. If the ATS wasn't in the line up I would call it a misstep but to compete against the E-Class & the 5 Series I think this car fits the bill.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn215/droptopron/Caddy1_zps4ffd4423.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn215/droptopron/Caddy3_zps2ba922da.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn215/droptopron/Caddy2_zpsa67032bb.jpg

ral1960
04-02-13, 11:40 PM
Thanks for the photos. Nice to see it in red without the kleiglights ruining the photos, as at Autoblog.

droptopron
04-03-13, 12:11 PM
It is interesting to see all the cars going to the higher hood lines for the upcoming pedestrian safety standards.

JimmyH
04-03-13, 03:55 PM
I think most cars already meet those new standards. They have been in place in europe for years now.

bruff1977
04-04-13, 01:04 PM
The rear end is growing on me... Rapidly. There's a pic on the Cadillac website of a Vsport in Black Diamond... Whoa.

RippyPartsDept
04-04-13, 02:08 PM
The rear end is growing on me... Rapidly. There's a pic on the Cadillac website of a Vsport in Black Diamond... Whoa.
http://www.cadillac.com/content/dam/Cadillac/Global/master/nscwebsite/en/home/Vehicles/Future_Vehicles/CTS/Model%20Overview/01_images/2014-cts-future-vehicle-page-exterior-power-960x634.jpg

Harry_Wild
04-04-13, 06:06 PM
Please let GM management know that we need TT 3.6 with all wheel drive.
Competition Mercedes and Audi have AWD cars for reasonable price.

http://wot.motortrend.com/2014-mercedes-benz-cla45-amg-priced-from-48375-346199.html#axzz2Oq2Y9rtx

Cadillac is solely focus on BMW! As long as BMW's M5 is RWD; so is Cadillac's CTS-V and CTS-V Sport going to be RWD only. Cadillac does not focus on the other upscale car company such as Benz nor Mercedes not Porsche nor Jaguar. They do not think that if you offer something like CTS-V AWD that BMW does not have that people would go and maybe buy it. In this respect they are just copy cats - have no vision - they react to the leader and are not leaders themselves. Same old GM!

DG2
04-04-13, 10:53 PM
Second trip to ny auto show today. I take all my previous comments back espically the mom jeans comments. I thought it all worked today. . It looked great

gohawks63
04-04-13, 11:09 PM
Cadillac is solely focus on BMW! As long as BMW's M5 is RWD; so is Cadillac's CTS-V and CTS-V Sport going to be RWD only. Cadillac does not focus on the other upscale car company such as Benz nor Mercedes not Porsche nor Jaguar. They do not think that if you offer something like CTS-V AWD that BMW does not have that people would go and maybe buy it. In this respect they are just copy cats - have no vision - they react to the leader and are not leaders themselves. Same old GM!

You chase and copy the leaders to establish your credibility. Once that is done you now have the resources to be a leader.

That's what Lexus did with Mercedes back at the start. Worked for them.

DG2
04-05-13, 07:30 AM
Cadillac is solely focus on BMW! As long as BMW's M5 is RWD; so is Cadillac's CTS-V and CTS-V Sport going to be RWD only. Cadillac does not focus on the other upscale car company such as Benz nor Mercedes not Porsche nor Jaguar. They do not think that if you offer something like CTS-V AWD that BMW does not have that people would go and maybe buy it. In this respect they are just copy cats - have no vision - they react to the leader and are not leaders themselves. Same old GM!

Cadillac is not even close to being a copy cat. The art and science theme is ground breaking and has always looked like no other car on the world. Simply because they benchmark against a BMW does not mean anything other then they want the Cadillac to perform better then anyone else's car.

Also remember it was all the other car companies that copy Cadillac As Cadillac was the first luxury car the world knew. In the early days no movie star, sports hero or successful businessman wanted to be seen driving anything but a Cadillac.

JimmyH
04-05-13, 08:15 PM
They copied the Lexus fake exhaust tips. :nono:

5.0 lsc
04-07-13, 09:50 PM
Thos intergrated exhaust tips looks way better on the escalades....i dont see why it doesnt on the sedans too....