: SRX fwd in snow



Sparty6174
01-25-13, 08:08 PM
Live in Michigan. Bought a 2011 SRX fwd last fall. Michelin Latitudes on car now. This car is TERRIBLE in the snow! Worse fwd I had ever owned. Any suggestions? I really can't drive this another winter!

Marc NY
01-25-13, 09:22 PM
I live in WNY area near Bufflao, NY which was at one time called the Snow Blizzard Capital of the US. LOL I have owned 3 FWD SRXs and found them all to be very good in the snow. Would AWD be better in the snow, yes of course. Overal, I would say I am very pleased with the performance of my SRX in the snow.

cannon1017
01-25-13, 10:21 PM
I have got to agree with you. I had a 2008 SRX AWD and it was excellent in the snow. My 2012 SRX FWD is horrible, Had my first experience today and was defenitely not impressed.

allgm
01-25-13, 11:19 PM
Also had a 2008 SRX AWD excellent in the snow. My 2010 FWD with 20" tires is sub par. I am almost down to the wear bars 37,000 miles.
Getting new Michliens next week should help. I found if you put the tranmission in manual and bump it up to 2nd or 3rd you can take off with better traction. Nobody said what size tires they have I would think the 18" would be better.

cannon1017
01-26-13, 12:58 AM
I did the same thing with the transmission. I switched to Sports Mode and did a lot of down shifting to stop and start.

Morenho
01-26-13, 04:01 AM
The only problem with that type of thinking is that "major traction problem" could result in an accident ! Actually, I think the snows are most important for the stopping because I tend to drive a bit too fast !

themacguy
01-26-13, 08:58 AM
With snow tires, mine is a tank.

I can't understand why people don't use snow tires in the winter...

allgm
01-26-13, 11:02 AM
With snow tires, mine is a tank.

I can't understand why people don't use snow tires in the winter...

They don't make snow tires in my size 20" tires, Any way if it snows that much I'll stay home. My next SRX will be AWD .

DTurmel
01-26-13, 12:13 PM
My 2012 is my first AWD car ... I'm in Ottawa Ontario and have quite a lot of snow here (and way too cold also..:) and I have been amazed on how the car perform in heavy snow.....impossible to make the wheels spin on a start (well almost!) .I was debating over spending the extra $$$ for AWD...I have no regret now....I never tried the FWD but I have read mixed reviews ... Some people like ...some don't.....it is true good snow tires makes a difference....and knew I wanted to stick with 18inch for that reason...

quantex
01-26-13, 10:58 PM
You bought a Cadillac. Pony up the extra cash for the SRX4. Here in Chicago I laugh at the vehicles that did not opt for the 4 wheel drive feature.

There is no difference between 43K and 46K.

tmw
01-27-13, 05:58 PM
Hmm...2012 FWD SRX with goodyear ice snow tires...and it's been wonderful in 6 inch snow so far I have now complaints. Even drove it off the road in 6+ inches a couple of weeks ago and I didn't get stuck. So it isn't that bad...but Im very happy with these particular tires.

Although my other vehicle is a 2WD F150 so that in the snow is my more recent comparison...

Softail
02-02-13, 11:40 PM
Sparty, Be glad you saved the money and didn't buy the AWD. The wife's 2012 AWD SRX sucks in the snow. She bitched a few times about how bad it was in the snow and I didn't believe her until I tried it in the snow. I hate to agree with her, but it is disappointingly awful. Truthfully, I can't believe it's as bad as it is, there has to be something wrong. We need to take it back to the dealer to verify the AWD, maybe there's computer issue or maybe they forgot to install the AWD. The kids Honda CRV AWDs will go anywhere in the snow, a day/night difference to the SRX.

DTurmel
02-02-13, 11:51 PM
Sparty, Be glad you saved the money and didn't buy the AWD. The wife's 2012 AWD SRX sucks in the snow. She bitched a few times about how bad it was in the snow and I didn't believe her until I tried it in the snow. I hate to agree with her, but it is disappointingly awful. Truthfully, I can't believe it's as bad as it is, there has to be something wrong. We need to take it back to the dealer to verify the AWD, maybe there's computer issue or maybe they forgot to install the AWD. The kids Honda CRV AWDs will go anywhere in the snow, a day/night difference to the SRX.


Seriously?

We have had quite a good amount of snow here in Ottawa and I strongly disagree ... The SRX has been amazing....best car I have ever owned for winter driving....good winter tires make a difference but even with the original all seasons tire I was amazed how the car drives in the snow....

Softail
02-03-13, 12:00 AM
Seriously?

We have had quite a good amount of snow here in Ottawa and I strongly disagree ... The SRX has been amazing....best car I have ever owned for winter driving....good winter tires make a difference but even with the original all seasons tire I was amazed how the car drives in the snow....


I'm serious about how bad our SRX is in the snow, but I believe you DTurmel. If yours is so good, why is ours so bad. There must be something wrong w/ the AWD.

quantex
02-03-13, 11:23 AM
I'm serious about how bad our SRX is in the snow, but I believe you DTurmel. If yours is so good, why is ours so bad. There must be something wrong w/ the AWD.

I traded in a 4Runner because my wife's was so good in the snow. Now I have one too. I have to say it is amazing. Had a few inches last night and drove like a champ.

allgm
02-03-13, 11:44 AM
Sparty, Be glad you saved the money and didn't buy the AWD. The wife's 2012 AWD SRX sucks in the snow. She bitched a few times about how bad it was in the snow and I didn't believe her until I tried it in the snow. I hate to agree with her, but it is disappointingly awful. Truthfully, I can't believe it's as bad as it is, there has to be something wrong. We need to take it back to the dealer to verify the AWD, maybe there's computer issue or maybe they forgot to install the AWD. The kids Honda CRV AWDs will go anywhere in the snow, a day/night difference to the SRX.

What size tires does your wife have 18 or 20's . I have 20's FWD and my friend has 18's FWD. When it snows we take his SRX.
Big difference.

quantex
02-03-13, 12:04 PM
What size tires does your wife have 18 or 20's . I have 20's FWD and my friend has 18's FWD. When it snows we take his SRX.
Big difference.

True. Smaller tires perform better in the snow. There is more room in the wheel wells to accomodate the additional snow. Although the 20s look fantastic.

Marc NY
02-03-13, 12:12 PM
They don't make snow tires in my size 20" tires, Any way if it snows that much I'll stay home. My next SRX will be AWD .I am "thinking" of buying an AWD SRX the next time around also. :)

TheCaptain
02-03-13, 12:23 PM
The outside diameter of the two wheel sizes doesn't change. Just the rim and sidewall size changes.

allgm
02-03-13, 01:25 PM
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UOTE=TheCaptain;3212392]The outside diameter of the two wheel sizes doesn't change. Just the rim and sidewall size changes.[/QUOTE]



True But the 20's are lower profile fatter and wider you are pushing the snow like a snow plow. Bigger foot print not always better.

quantex
02-03-13, 02:08 PM
Its all good. Just pony up the extra cash for the SRX-4. Plus having that 4 on the back badging is so choice.

TheCaptain
02-03-13, 05:33 PM
True But the 20's are lower profile fatter and wider you are pushing the snow like a snow plow. Bigger foot print not always better.

Sorry allgm, i have to correct you again. Both tires are the same width as well.
Here is a tire size comparison between the 20's and 18's. The 18 is the coloured tire, and the 20 is the outline which pretty much is filled in by the colour from the 18.
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o51/TheCaptain07/SRX%20Mods/TireSizeComparo20vs18_zps266ce9c0.png

Also, Toyo has a 20" winter tire in 235/55/20, only 7.5" wide (compared to 8" stock). Toyo Winter 20" tire (http://www.toyotires.ca/tire/pattern/observe-gsi5)

Softail
02-03-13, 11:24 PM
Maybe the tires are the only issue, she has 20'' Michelin Latitudes and the car is terrible in the snow. It's so bad, it's hard to believe it's just the tires.

What tires are working in the snow on a SRX?? Any recommendations?

TheCaptain
02-04-13, 07:30 AM
I know the Latitudes were ok the first winter on an AWD SRX, but with our snow/ice, I went with a dedicated snow tire. 235/65/18 Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V1. Amazing in the snow and ice!

hedo47
02-04-13, 09:18 AM
Sparty, Be glad you saved the money and didn't buy the AWD. The wife's 2012 AWD SRX sucks in the snow. She bitched a few times about how bad it was in the snow and I didn't believe her until I tried it in the snow. I hate to agree with her, but it is disappointingly awful. Truthfully, I can't believe it's as bad as it is, there has to be something wrong. We need to take it back to the dealer to verify the AWD, maybe there's computer issue or maybe they forgot to install the AWD. The kids Honda CRV AWDs will go anywhere in the snow, a day/night difference to the SRX.

Just, bought 2011 awd srx, 18 inch tires, will not go in snow. Wife took the old honda crv and didnt spin a tire. Small width tires and less weight must be the difference. The srx was so bad I am taking it to the dealer in hopes somethhing is wrong. We have a xlr for the summer, dont need another for show only vehicle

e004698
02-05-13, 12:54 PM
Good Readers. I have a 2010 AWD that is usually good in the snow, but on two occasions I have had it back to the dealer because the traction control was not working AND there was no dash indication lamp that it was not working. Twice they have fixed it for this: "TEST DROVE WITH CUSTOMER. STABILITRACK NOT ENGAGING ON SNOWY SURFACE. NO LIGHTS ON. NO STORED FAULTS. FOUND BRAKE POSITION SENSOR NOT LEARNED DURING FULL SCAN. RELEARNED POSITION AND TEST DROVE.OPERATING OK AT THIS TIME. " If this can happen on AWD, it can happen on FWD. I believe it is the loss of traction feature which is causing problems. My AWD was terrible when I lost the traction and you don't get a warning lamp for this failure mode. Try it!

Cadillac Cust Svc
02-05-13, 02:34 PM
E004698, thank you for sharing your experience! I was sorry to see other owners on this thread have been been frustrated dealing with your SRXs in the snow. So, I will be documenting this thread in a place where the proper GM teams can view your feedback. If you would like me to assist in investigate your specific concerns, please email me anytime at Katie_Lucille@gmexpert.com.

Best,

Katie
Cadillac Customer Service

DTurmel
02-05-13, 02:47 PM
Good Readers. I have a 2010 AWD that is usually good in the snow, but on two occasions I have had it back to the dealer because the traction control was not working AND there was no dash indication lamp that it was not working. Twice they have fixed it for this: "TEST DROVE WITH CUSTOMER. STABILITRACK NOT ENGAGING ON SNOWY SURFACE. NO LIGHTS ON. NO STORED FAULTS. FOUND BRAKE POSITION SENSOR NOT LEARNED DURING FULL SCAN. RELEARNED POSITION AND TEST DROVE.OPERATING OK AT THIS TIME. " If this can happen on AWD, it can happen on FWD. I believe it is the loss of traction feature which is causing problems. My AWD was terrible when I lost the traction and you don't get a warning lamp for this failure mode. Try it!

Thanks for the great info.... This is good to know!

e004698
02-05-13, 05:34 PM
Sparty, Be glad you saved the money and didn't buy the AWD. The wife's 2012 AWD SRX sucks in the snow. She bitched a few times about how bad it was in the snow and I didn't believe her until I tried it in the snow. I hate to agree with her, but it is disappointingly awful. Truthfully, I can't believe it's as bad as it is, there has to be something wrong. We need to take it back to the dealer to verify the AWD, maybe there's computer issue or maybe they forgot to install the AWD. The kids Honda CRV AWDs will go anywhere in the snow, a day/night difference to the SRX.

I think you may have the same problem I had with my 2010 SRX4. The problem, which I have written about before, is that traction control is not operational and dash lamp is not informing you about the condition. I have had this to my dealer twice. The tech drove the car and conformed my diagnosis of no traction. The cause is "BRAKE POSITION SENSOR LOST CALIBRATION. BRAKE AND ACCELERATOR PEDAL AJUSTER POSISTION SENSOR REPLACED." Because you don't get a warning lamp, there is no way to know you've lost the traction control, except for the reduced performance. Strongly recommend you have dealer check this out. Also, if you never see the traction light come on in slippery conditions, ggod bet traction inoperable. This explanation, in my opinion, would apply to all I have read regarding AWD and FWD...loss of traction could be the culprit.

quantex
02-05-13, 06:53 PM
SRX4 rocks in the snow. Plain and simple.

Softail
02-05-13, 07:23 PM
Took our 2012 SRX AWD to the dealer today to determine if the AWD wasn't working, or if it is just a POS in the snow and ready for a trade in w/ 11K miles.

The dealer found it hard to believe the AWD wouldn't go in the snow and never heard of such a problem w/ a SRX, but was good enough to take it for a ride to be shocked to find out we were right.

After putting it on the rack, the mechanic found the drive shaft from the front gear box to the rear axle was broken. Basically, the rear wheels were never enabled when the AWD kicked in making the AWD a FWD. The driveshaft wasn't broken in two pieces, but was slipping inside itself and not driving the rear wheels in the AWD mode. Sounds to me like it wasn't assembled properly at the factory, and the dealer's service dept. wouldn't admit to a factory recall issue.

The dealer ordered a new drive shaft from "down south" and will have it installed in a day or two.

It was refreshing to have the dealer actually diagnose the problem without a battle, and maybe there is still hope for this SRX in the snow.

I'll post back once repaired.

TheCaptain
02-08-13, 01:08 PM
Ahem. 2010 SRX AWD with SNOW TIRES.



http://www.youtube.com/embed/7q_AQknfsUw

http://www.youtube.com/embed/tjBfNf3tEFE

http://www.youtube.com/embed/7gJM5znYRRk

If you're going to play in the snow, do it with the right tires. They make the biggest difference in your driving experience. The stockers are all season tires which are pretty much NO Season tires. (not that good in rain, snow, dry, and ESPECIALLY NOT ICE!)

Marc NY
02-08-13, 01:22 PM
... If you're going to play in the snow, do it with the right tires. They make the biggest difference in your driving experience. The stockers are all season tires which are pretty much NO Season tires. (not that good in rain, snow, dry, and ESPECIALLY NOT ICE!)Captain here is a email I just got from the Canadian guy who bought my 2012 SRX back in October 2012. He talks about snow tires and great gas milage too.


Hi Marc,

The SRX is working great. I have driven over 10,000 miles and was in for the free oil change and was very pleased with the service at Keyser.
With Blizzak winter tires it goes good in snow and the gas mileage is the same as my G8 which is way better than expected.

Best regards,
Eric
Sent from my iPhone

TheCaptain
02-08-13, 01:26 PM
Right on! Play with the big boys or stay in the garage! :D

bowker
02-12-13, 03:58 PM
Softail,

Any news to report? Just completed some MN winter driving in my 2012 SRX FWD and this car sucks in the snow. Having driven in MN winters for 25 years, spare me the snow tire speech...I get that. But, this car is unsafe it loses control switching lanes thru slush at 50mph. Grandmothers were passing me...

Softail
02-12-13, 11:42 PM
Bowker,

Your 2012 SRX sounds just like my SRX AWD, it completely sucks in the snow. If yours is a FWD, my broken drive shaft issue doesn't apply to your FWD because yours doesn't have a drive shaft to the rear axle.

The drive shaft from the front gear box to the rear axle was broken, not broken in half, but spinning within itself. The dealer replaced the failed drive shaft.

This should make a huge difference in the snow, but it hasn't snowed since the repair.

I'll post when we get some snow.

frankrizzo135
02-13-13, 09:30 PM
I have a 2011 AWD luxury model and I put on a set of Bridestone Blizzark Tires. The traction is like a TANK.

caddyshac
02-13-13, 09:50 PM
Took our 2012 SRX AWD to the dealer today to determine if the AWD wasn't working, or if it is just a POS in the snow and ready for a trade in w/ 11K miles.

The dealer found it hard to believe the AWD wouldn't go in the snow and never heard of such a problem w/ a SRX, but was good enough to take it for a ride to be shocked to find out we were right.

After putting it on the rack, the mechanic found the drive shaft from the front gear box to the rear axle was broken. Basically, the rear wheels were never enabled when the AWD kicked in making the AWD a FWD. The driveshaft wasn't broken in two pieces, but was slipping inside itself and not driving the rear wheels in the AWD mode. Sounds to me like it wasn't assembled properly at the factory, and the dealer's service dept. wouldn't admit to a factory recall issue.

The dealer ordered a new drive shaft from "down south" and will have it installed in a day or two.

It was refreshing to have the dealer actually diagnose the problem without a battle, and maybe there is still hope for this SRX in the snow.

I'll post back once repaired.

That's what happens when they build them in Mexico.

beachcad
02-15-13, 11:04 AM
Good Readers. I have a 2010 AWD that is usually good in the snow, but on two occasions I have had it back to the dealer because the traction control was not working AND there was no dash indication lamp that it was not working. Twice they have fixed it for this: "TEST DROVE WITH CUSTOMER. STABILITRACK NOT ENGAGING ON SNOWY SURFACE. NO LIGHTS ON. NO STORED FAULTS. FOUND BRAKE POSITION SENSOR NOT LEARNED DURING FULL SCAN. RELEARNED POSITION AND TEST DROVE.OPERATING OK AT THIS TIME. " If this can happen on AWD, it can happen on FWD. I believe it is the loss of traction feature which is causing problems. My AWD was terrible when I lost the traction and you don't get a warning lamp for this failure mode. Try it!

e004698, thanks so much for posting this information. We live in Florida, so obviously snow isn't a problem. However, I was insistent on purchasing the AWD for my wife's SRX for the rain and dry pavement handling benefits, and also the assurance we could take it anywhere we wanted. After seeing that the AWD could be non-functioning and without any indications, I am disappointed at best that I don't have the certainty it is working. I can't imagine that anyone with an SRX who does live in an area with ice and snow 'might' be in danger instead of secure that it will handle properly. Surely, just the fact that there are no indications when the AWD isn't working is sufficient cause for a recall.

TheCaptain
02-15-13, 11:27 AM
The happenings to one or two vehicles when 500 000 are sold is not cause enough to warrant a recall. Recalls are for issues relating to driver safety that affect more than 8-10% of vehicles sold.
Otherwise fix its are released as TSB's. (Technical Service Bulletin's) Of which again, two in half a million vehicles is not enough to warrant issuing a TSB.

beachcad
02-15-13, 11:34 AM
The happenings to one or two vehicles when 500 000 are sold is not cause enough to warrant a recall. Recalls are for issues relating to driver safety that affect more than 8-10% of vehicles sold.
Otherwise fix its are released as TSB's. (Technical Service Bulletin's) Of which again, two in half a million vehicles is not enough to warrant issuing a TSB.

Captain,
With no indications, how do you know the number of vehicles affected? There could be folks seriously injured as a result of this problem, and no one ever know...unless, until a lot of people get hurt.

Anthony31188
02-15-13, 12:52 PM
You choose the FWD over the AWD and then complain that it's not good in the snow? SMH.....common sense man.

Softail
02-16-13, 05:33 PM
That's what happens when they build them in Mexico.

Bingo.

Sparty6174
02-18-13, 10:42 AM
Thanks to all who gave me some positive feedback. I have driven through the ice and snow in Michigan for almost 50 years, so I know the value of snow tires! My wife's cars have always been FWD and we never had problems! So, when buying my pre-owned SRX, I never gave AWD a second thought! I couldn't believe how bad this car was! I finally put on a set of Bridgestone Blizzaks - big difference! It now responds like my FWD Pontiacs and Chevys have in the past. Of course now that I have my winter tires, it means the no more snow! Thanks again!

zinner
02-18-13, 09:13 PM
The Gen 1 AWD SRX was a beast in the snow, had great clearance, decent all season tires. I could go right through 1 ft drifts that the plows would push up.

Haven't had any snow for my Gen 2 SRX to go up against. Since it's a bit lower I would assume it would be less capable, I think 50% of snow performance is just not getting the front end hung up and plowing up snow in front of the vehicle.

Softail
03-25-13, 06:05 PM
Finally got some snow to try out the '12 SRX AWD w/ the repaired/replaced front to rear drive shaft. The SRX goes like a tank in the snow, as it was made to do.

Amazing how after the dealer replaced the faulty assembled drive shaft, the AWD responses as excepted in the snow. All of a sudden, we're real happy w/ the SRX again.

Maybe the Mexicans at the factory need another lesson on the driveshaft assembly. How many SRX AWD owners have the same problem, but just think it's normal and a POS in the snow??

Baystater
01-22-14, 08:16 PM
Live in Michigan. Bought a 2011 SRX fwd last fall. Michelin Latitudes on car now. This car is TERRIBLE in the snow! Worse fwd I had ever owned. Any suggestions? I really can't drive this another winter!

Just bought mine in November and have had two frightening experiences with only a few inches of snow on the ground. Second trip to the dealership today for better tires and hope that solves the problem (have new all weather on now)!

tmw
01-23-14, 07:51 AM
Personally on another vehicle I had those latitudes and hated them when not dry. I keep Goodyear ICE wrt winter tires on my fwd srx and while no michigan snow the snow in Indiana recently I have had zero issues.

JohnnyBzSRX
01-23-14, 01:20 PM
You choose the FWD over the AWD and then complain that it's not good in the snow? SMH.....common sense man.

THIS, LOL.

Personally, I think FWD is the absolute worst drive arrangement for snow / slippery stuff. If my tires are going to start slipping while I'm driving (especially when taking off from a stop), I'd rather it NOT be the tires I'm trying to STEER with. Yeah, the weight of the engine over the drive wheels helps with traction that provides forward thrust (compared to RWD), but how many people have lost control and wrecked their cars due to their inability to get traction to START MOVING FORWARD??

Yes, we wanted to get an AWD SRX when shopping for one last summer, but AWD was not the top priority due to the fact that where we live AWD is really needed only a handfull of days a year. We "settled" for a FWD SRX knowing full well the limitations of FWD in wet / frozen weather. What may be aggrivating to some owners who feel their FWD SRX "does poorly in snow" is that the front/rear weigh bias is probably not as high on an SRX as it is on most FWD passenger cars, resulting in less of that forward thrust traction they may be used to.

My impression of my wife's FWD SRX is that it feels typical of any FWD vehicle: Decent forward thrust traction to get going, but must use great caution when trying to accelerate on slippery stuff unless the front wheels are pointed straight ahead or else be prepared to go somewhere unintended with no hope of correcting the velocity vector by doing anything other than fully lifting the throttle (and possibly counter steering in hopes of regaining lateral traction at the front wheels so that steering control is recovered). On the slippery stuff, I feel safer in any RWD vehicle than in any FWD vehicle. I may be slower getting off the line at the stop light than other FWD vehicles, but at least I have full control of the direction my RWD vehicle is going and am less likely to collide with someone else.

TheCaptain
01-23-14, 08:09 PM
Oh so very true JohnnyBz!

I like how many people blame traction issues of the vehicle on the vehicle.

What touches the ground? What transfers power from the engine/ drivetrain to the road?

Tires. Yea, some tires suck in the snow, and lots of those tires are all seasons. Because all season tires are really NO season tires. Not really good in summer, not really good in the rain, not really good in the snow, not really good in the ice (and ice and snow ARE VERY DIFFERENT for traction characteristics). Issues with traction? Buy different tires.

Unless you have more money than brains, then trade the vehicle off and get something else with probably slightly better tires.

SRX-MTL
01-24-14, 03:58 PM
I have a FWD 2013 SRX and the same snow tires than The Captain (Blizzak DM-V1) and I have no regrets to have not taken AWD. I have an excellent traction on snow and ice.

Tup
01-24-14, 05:59 PM
I like the Michelin x-ice tires. I have had 2 sets and they last way longer than any other snow/ice tires. They are also amazingly quiet.

georule
01-24-14, 06:41 PM
I drove a FWD 'XTS as a loaner recently. Had 4" of snow, and couldn't get up my gently sloped driveway to the garage! Those are riding Goodyear Eagle RS-A, and go look at the survey results for that on ice/snow at tirerack.com. Literally the worst I've ever seen.

The stock Michelin on the SRX seem to actually be pretty decent as all-season radials go --look at the surveys there too.

Having said that, nothing does snow/ice like tires designed for it. It's not just tread design, it's materials composition too.

Me, I have an AWD SRX with Goodyear Ultra Grip ICE w/wrt for winter. . . best combination for snow/ice it has ever been my pleasure to drive (tho no doubt Mich X-ice or Blizzaks or Nokian would do very well too).

redvett94
01-24-14, 07:39 PM
FWD is excellent in snow but they are limited by your selection of tires you opt. for. The tall wide tires are no good on a daily driver.

frankrizzo135
01-24-14, 09:17 PM
I had a 2011 srx with 18 inch wheels and bought a set of Bridgestone ice and snow tires for it. It was like a tank in the snow. Now I have a 2013 srx that came with 20 inch wheels. My 18 inch wheels fit and it is great in the snow.

463
01-26-14, 02:09 PM
Till you shut the Traction and StabiliTrak off see Driving and Operating page 8-35. That's when the srx shines.

My 2012 is my first AWD car ... I'm in Ottawa Ontario and have quite a lot of snow here (and way too cold also..:) and I have been amazed on how the car perform in heavy snow.....impossible to make the wheels spin on a start (well almost!) .I was debating over spending the extra $$$ for AWD...I have no regret now....I never tried the FWD but I have read mixed reviews ... Some people like ...some don't.....it is true good snow tires makes a difference....and knew I wanted to stick with 18inch for that reason...

georule
01-26-14, 03:44 PM
Also, Toyo has a 20" winter tire in 235/55/20, only 7.5" wide (compared to 8" stock). Toyo Winter 20" tire (http://www.toyotires.ca/tire/pattern/observe-gsi5)

Has anyone here actually tried those 20" Toyo's on an SRX in the snow? Just curious how they compare to the best of the others. . . personally, Toyo is not a name that leaps to mind when I think of snow tires. But that doesn't necessarily mean they aren't any good.

I got 18" because I knew I wanted snow tires, wanted to have a decent array of choices to buy, and didn't want the extra expense of having to own two sets of rims (not really extra hassle since my tire guy would store them too just like he does my off-season set).

b4z
01-26-14, 05:51 PM
And to think, they put RSAs on police cars and PPV tahoes. They are just not safe.

TheCaptain
01-27-14, 10:04 AM
I know, you would be surprised at the number of police vehicles flipped over or in the ditch still wearing those tires.
The good news is, the RCMP usually put winter tires on their cars in winter. (at least around here they do)

zwiefela
01-27-14, 02:05 PM
The only thing we don't like about our fwd SRX in the snow is how touchy the traction control is. When you're used to driving vehicles with out it, it catches you off guard when it kicks in.

georule
01-27-14, 06:25 PM
I could see how that could be on a FWD. Between the traction control and the limited-slip differential on my SRX4 with snow tires, if I take off with the wheels straight. . . I have not yet found a circumstance where it will get significantly out of true. And I mean hard starts too. As soon as she starts to go even a little off, the systems kick in and straighten her out again, and without a lot of drama either. It's pretty amazing actually.

I did get a little fishtail once, when I hard-started in a couple inches of slush with the wheel cranked over pretty far to the right to go from a stop onto a new road at an intersection. As soon as I let off the gas peddle she straightened right up again on her own --I didn't even get a chance to start reacting with the wheel.

She really does delight me how good she is in the snow/ice, and I've owned and/or driven several 4x4 in the snow/ice over the years.

TheCaptain
01-28-14, 06:47 PM
Hehehe. You're not accelerating very hard then. If I have th TC off, I can get it to fishtail a bit in a straight line. More so when turning! But it never lasts long. AWD or Stabilitrack always brings it back in.

srx4m&m
01-29-14, 02:56 PM
Agree 100%. Just got my 2012 srx luxury fwd with Michelin Latitude Tour HP tires and the car slides all over the place even with just a bit of snow on the ground. Traction is totally ZERO! Can't wait to replace these tires with something better!
I have since read about these tires and they're only rated 1 star (out of 5, and no wonder). The same site gives 5 stars to the Michelin Latitude Winter version tire which is made from a totally different compound.