: We Now Have More Aftermarket Wheels Available In Our Bolt Pattern (Details Inside)



mikemjohnson
01-25-13, 05:44 PM
Hey guys, working with a group on some potential wheels for the V, since obviously we really cant get ahold of anything without spending some serious bank, or being limited to one or two designs.

These wouldn't be new wheel designs, but instead ordering wheels that are available already in blank, non-drilled patterns. Then having a machine shop drill them accordingly.

Wouldn't need a group buy for the wheels in the sense the wheels are readily available as blanks, but I'm assuming a person or two would be needed upfront to help offset the cost of having a machine shop set up the CNC files and everything for the bolt pattern drilling.

This isn't an empty, with no promises thread like most of these are; I'm ready to roll financially on a set of wheels and will even incur some of the initial set up costs for the machine shop (of course I'd try to recoup them, but oh well if not).

Some of the example wheels available in blanks, most in 18" and 20" in the correct high offset 35mm-45mm, most available in 8 and 9 inch widths.

Lorenzo wheel:
http://www.customautowheelrims.com/images/13547602399791210764211.png

KMC wheel:
http://www.wheelfire.com/imagesproducts/wheel_gallery/rokst.jpg

Motegi:
http://www.rimsntires.com/wheels/motegi/mr122.jpg

http://www.mustangevolution.com/forum/attachments/63024-image-1643118956.jpg


Thoughts gentlemen?

rand49er
01-25-13, 06:42 PM
Lorenzo is gorgeous.

Spent my wheel money, so I'm out, though.

BradCTSV
01-26-13, 02:10 AM
I would be interested in the Motegi in 19"x 8.5" front and 9.5" rear. Correct offset would be the key so no rubbing issues.

JD03Cobra
01-26-13, 09:08 AM
Lorenzo wheel is beautiful!

AAIIIC
01-26-13, 10:02 AM
How are you going about verifying the brake fitment will be OK? That's one of the biggest challenges - the deep positive offset we need isn't particularly helpful for brake clearance.

Like rand49er, I'm not in the market for wheels - already have 4 sets - but those Lorenzo wheels would look good, methinks.

mikemjohnson
01-27-13, 04:20 PM
as far as brake fitment i will get the first set myself most likely so that if it doesnt fit its only my loss!

AAIIIC
01-27-13, 09:28 PM
http://www.submariner.org/thepno95/Pictures/CTS-V%20pics/Suspension%20and%20Chassis/V2%20brakes/04-07%20CTS-V%20front%20brakes.jpg

http://www.submariner.org/thepno95/Pictures/CTS-V%20pics/Suspension%20and%20Chassis/V2%20brakes/04-07%20CTS-V%20rear%20brakes.jpg

Both pictures are of a rear brake setup, but the measurements are for front and rear (as noted on the pics). Measurements were made with my eyeball, tape measure, and straight edges, so they're not exact, but close enough for government work. The wheel manufacturer should be able to get a good idea of whether the inner profile of the wheel will clear the brakes based on these measurements.

mikemjohnson
01-27-13, 10:11 PM
fantastic. will look into it!

etcts-v
01-28-13, 02:49 PM
Lorenzo's are sexy! No wheels for me though, I'm good with my OEM powder coated black.

fre1102
01-31-13, 03:56 AM
Lorenzos.

P-Funk
01-31-13, 12:06 PM
I like the Lorenzos too. I'm not in the wheel market yet, but depending on cost and such, may be able to speed up the process.

xbladr
01-31-13, 10:58 PM
Lorenzos in 20's would be my go to so I can get rid of the dvinci's I have. I have brand new tires on the dvincis so it would need to be a 20 for me. Depending on the cost and fitment I would definitely be in

BradCTSV
02-02-13, 01:16 AM
I would also be interested in the Lorenzo in 19".

Bill Rubeck
02-02-13, 01:43 AM
Umm, don't want to sound dumb, (newb), but is black the only option(s)? I like polished wheels, sorry.

Hockeyref
02-03-13, 10:36 AM
I have Lorenzo's on my 06-V, had to get them drilled but the offset and everything worked out great. At the time was not my first choice in design for summer rims, but was impatient to get my winter tires off and new summer rubber on. 103330

AAIIIC
02-03-13, 12:04 PM
I have Lorenzo's on my 06-V...
Model? Sizes? Offsets? Providing the specs will help the OP's quest.

Hockeyref
02-03-13, 04:39 PM
How about that - I found the bill from my rims - Lorenzo WL28 18X8 6X115 32mm CHRM. Cost me $379/rim but please remember this is in Canada - generally our prices are higher.

mikemjohnson
02-05-13, 12:47 PM
well guys OP is delivering, but not with the best of news. looked into the lorenzos with the manufacturer, everything would be a green light except the wheel barely doesnt work for our crazy bolt pattern. it can be drilled for 6, but very limited; the mounting side of the wheel has the pockets between the bolt points, so it just wont work.

they advised me on these working for our pattern
Lorenzo WL198, brand new for 2013 design. forged 2 piece. look very similar to GM option wheels.
103457
103458

however, two concerns, one being size and offset availability, only available in 20s, and i think they're going to stick out too much (only available in 9 wide with 38 offset, so it calcs to extending 10mm beyond current wheels, with 2mm less inner clearance). 10mm is less than half an inch, but our cars are pretty flush from the factory.

the lorenzos posted in the first post (wl036) were perfect, offered in 18 and 20 inch diameters


The other concern is these are forged two piece barrel wheels, so the price is higher than the first posted wheels. will investigate further gentlemen

mackey
02-05-13, 01:05 PM
keep us posted and thanks for doing the legwork

AAIIIC
02-05-13, 09:20 PM
Just as a data point, the Team Dynamics wheels that many of us run are 18x9" +38mm, so a 9" wheel with a +38mm offset isn't outside the realm of possibility.

mikemjohnson
02-05-13, 10:31 PM
good information, got a picture of them installed that show how they line up with the body?

BradCTSV
02-06-13, 01:22 AM
Mike- Speaking for myself and possibly others, I would only be interested if I can run 275 or larger rear tires. The optimal minimum rim width is at least 9.5".
Also, I would be looking for 19" wheels, not 20".

RyRidesMotoX
02-06-13, 09:16 PM
No 18 inch setups? I really want some team dynamics but if I can find a similar wheel at a better price I would be down. I like to road race though so I don't want a 20.

BlackMamba408
02-07-13, 05:07 AM
hi xbladr, did the 20's fit all around?? rear and front?? what size of tires did you go with?? i wanna go 20's on mine and maybe 275's 285's on rear.

xbladr
02-08-13, 12:12 AM
I am currently running the dvinci 20's. I would have to check the exact specs as I do not have them off hand. I run 245's front and 275's rear without any issues. With my dvincis I did use a 3mm spacer in the back to clear the caliper. I am not slammed however if I was you definitely may get some rubbing the rear but, again I am also stretched out 3mm.

OP: I like the WL198 with the machined face and black backset. 20's are the size i would be looking for just to keep my current tires setup but, what kind of cost would we be looking at? I still love the wheels in the original post too but love the machined face idea.

mikemjohnson
02-12-13, 12:09 AM
AAIIIC where did you get those measurements from? the cadillacFAQ site or somewhere else? Will end up measuring myself, but they're a good starting point.

well guys ive been working with multiple vendors, many of who ive worked with in the past with previous jobs, and this is tough. im not giving up.

i hate to kind of veer off the original path, but it is becoming more and more clear that multi-piece wheels are going to be the solution. it is simply easier and cheaper for a company to drill a wheel disc than to have a whole wheel cast in our bolt pattern; most wheels that are normally five lug have this design in the mould, making a six bolt drill using blanks impossible:
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ive been working with a company that is willing to work and produce three piece forged wheels at an EXTREMELY reasonable price. half of what an ADV.1 one wheel would cost, the same price as a premium one piece would cost (vossen, etc). backed by warranties, why wouldnt we want some beautiful three piece wheels at the price of a cast wheel?

Here are some designs we've determined that would tentatively work between the six bolt lug pattern and wheel designs. some of the designs are based off existing wheels out there, some off factory designs, some are new and fresh:

http://i.imgur.com/9ktfHgj.png
(full size image link: http://i.imgur.com/9ktfHgj.png)

what do you guys think

(EDIT: spelling)

AAIIIC
02-12-13, 10:42 AM
AAIIIC where did you get those measurements from?
My garage. :)


Here are some designs we've determined that would tentatively work between the six bolt lug pattern and wheel designs. some of the designs are based off existing wheels out there, some off factory designs, some are new and fresh:

http://i.imgur.com/9ktfHgj.png
(full size image link: http://i.imgur.com/9ktfHgj.png)

what do you guys think
#1 is similar to the Linea Corse Veneto (http://www.wheeldude.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=457_458_460), which is available in 19x8.5/10 or 19x8.5/9.5. Very sharp looking wheels, but unless you'd be offering different sizing it seems like that might be a hard sell.

Looks like #2/3 is the same wheel, just different angles. Not bad looking. When I got the Rota Torques made (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2004-2007-cadillac-cts-v-appearance/149182-no-kidding-inexpensive-wheel-option.html) I tried to get some interest in the Rota Grid, as it's a meaty 6-spoke design that I figured would match up well to the car. Didn't get much interest at all, though.

#4 I don't like.

#5/6 is sharp. I think that sort of BBS-ish style would look great on our cars. Looks similar to the Niche Circuit and Demoda Vanquish that I recommended to one of the V6 guys looking for wheels. (http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-cts-first-generation-forum-2003/280726-find-me-some-wheels.html#post3210697)

xbladr
02-15-13, 10:02 PM
5/6 are the best looking and I would lean towards 5 most likely

RyRidesMotoX
02-16-13, 03:34 AM
I like #2/#3 the best... Love big 6 spoke wheels like that, almost like the Gramm lights/Volk wheels

BradCTSV
02-20-13, 01:57 AM
I like #2 and #3 also.

mike barker
02-05-14, 10:38 PM
Hi I was interested in seeing if these rims are still available

AAIIIC
02-06-14, 07:47 AM
Were they ever available?

rand49er
02-06-14, 09:35 AM
It's deja vu all over again.

http://i0.wp.com/listverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/berra-yogi-4267-68htiv-nbl.jpg?resize=322%2C400

lollygagger8
02-26-14, 02:41 PM
Wah wah wah