: An alternative to clear fogs ;)



jclayc
01-21-13, 08:20 PM
I busted my front passenger fog lamp bracket and bulb and, instead of fixing them, I decided to do something I've been thinking about for a while - pull the whole deal and replace them with grilles for future air ducting. (I think someone else has done this - maybe it was yooper?) In the summer, I'll put air ducts behind these. In the winter, I could block them off or leave them as is.

This only took drilling one hole in the bumper on each side to secure the lower part of the screen. The brackets include the lower air ducts, so I used a dremel to cut my (broken) brackets down to just the duct. It connects to the lower bumper using the same 2 bolts they used originally + I connected the top of it to the screen with one more tiny bolt.

I'ts not for everyone and I'm not even sure I'll keep it like this but... I think I will. The only downside: by having the DRLs and fogs off the system, the turn signal do a fast-blink. Ugh, like a busted 1980 ford taurus. THAT'S terrible - I've got to figure out a fix for that.

http://i.imgur.com/1IciU4q.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DieOBB7.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/aQGqYfo.jpg

FoD
01-21-13, 08:27 PM
Looks okay. Would look better if you found a woven mesh to match the grilles.

http://www.customcargrills.com/products.asp?cat=46

kerberos
01-21-13, 08:34 PM
Clean up the mounting pieces to make them more hidden. Then you should order a set of projectors to hide behind them. Just an idea.

carlson_mn
01-21-13, 09:10 PM
props on the custom work looks ! But I think some people put too much ideas into making this thing a race car!

DrSpeed
01-22-13, 01:24 AM
Paint all the metal pieces black, and it'll look much nicer and finished.

Mod your turn signal relay here to eliminate hyper flash.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2004-2007-cadillac-cts-v-appearance/111370-mod-flasher-leds-turn-signals.html

Junior1
01-22-13, 12:17 PM
Yooper had made a similar set for his ducts and the Powell cars used a similar setup with flexible ducting attached directly to it. My carbon fiber setup still uses the lower opening.

Skidmarcx
01-22-13, 01:13 PM
Looks okay. Would look better if you found a woven mesh to match the grilles.

http://www.customcargrills.com/products.asp?cat=46

Agreed... nice work, but get better matching grille

Andringa
01-22-13, 02:15 PM
So you just don't have blinkers? The DRL is the front turn signal.

Did you put a blinker somewhere else, or am I missing something?

martinV
01-22-13, 02:29 PM
How about turning the little triangle city light in the headlamp into a blinker?

etcts-v
01-22-13, 05:54 PM
Love this idea! Thanks for the idea, never been a fan of the driving or fog lights, not sure what I would do about turn signals though.

jclayc
01-22-13, 06:14 PM
The blinkers are still on the sides of the bumper... Are the DRLs blinkers? I didn't think they were but it'll be easy to check. All the wiring is still in place - it could just be a matter of putting an amber light back there.

The Miata guys have turn signal air intakes (http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda-Performance-Part/30-1051.html) that are a pretty cool idea. I think the turn signal issue is a big one... and I also wonder what it'll do to the air pressure behind the dam at speed...

etcts-v
01-22-13, 09:30 PM
The blinkers are still on the sides of the bumper... Are the DRLs blinkers? I didn't think they were but it'll be easy to check. All the wiring is still in place - it could just be a matter of putting an amber light back there.

The Miata guys have turn signal air intakes (http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda-Performance-Part/30-1051.html) that are a pretty cool idea. I think the turn signal issue is a big one... and I also wonder what it'll do to the air pressure behind the dam at speed...

Your main turn signal is the DRL's, the side markers are just an added bonus but my guess is any cop would nail you for no front turn signals not to mention other people on the street on understanding you are turning. Plus my side markers are hyperwhite lights with smoked lenses, wouldn't work too well. I'll bet you could really easily put a yellow LED or even better a color changing LED bar behind those grills, I put a set of LED fogs behind my lower grill which looks sweet, stealth in the daylight.

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Something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Side-Glow-Switchback-60-SMD-LED-Strip-Driving-Turn-Lights-Nissan-Mazda-etc-48-/180924877207?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a1ff68997&vxp=mtr

Only in a solid mount like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-Amber-LED-JDM-DRL-Daytime-Running-Bumper-Lights-Fog-Lamp-Pair-Set-New-/121054789200?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c2f6d7e50&vxp=mtr

kerberos
01-22-13, 09:54 PM
retrofit something like this behind there
http://www.ebay.com/itm/01-05-Ford-Ranger-Fog-Lights-Smoke-Lens-Halo-Projectors-Fog-Lamps-PAIR-/320922223539?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ab87483b3&vxp=mtr
then use something like this to mod the wiring from the angel eye for the DRL
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HARNESS-3157-3357-3457-X-1-WIRE-CONNECTOR-MALE-FEMALE-FIT-12-V-PREVENT-MELTING-/130744129604?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e70f51844&vxp=mtr
order an hid kit and it would all look so saweet

ls6v
01-23-13, 02:12 AM
Reminds me of some Road Warrior action...just walk away...kachunk kachunk

ESCALADE200224
01-24-13, 02:36 AM
Looks okay. Would look better if you found a woven mesh to match the grilles.

http://www.customcargrills.com/products.asp?cat=46

I agree as well, and yea I'd paint those clips black too. Looks cleaner and less noticeable from far away.

etcts-v
01-24-13, 02:38 AM
retrofit something like this behind there
http://www.ebay.com/itm/01-05-Ford-Ranger-Fog-Lights-Smoke-Lens-Halo-Projectors-Fog-Lamps-PAIR-/320922223539?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ab87483b3&vxp=mtr
then use something like this to mod the wiring from the angel eye for the DRL
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HARNESS-3157-3357-3457-X-1-WIRE-CONNECTOR-MALE-FEMALE-FIT-12-V-PREVENT-MELTING-/130744129604?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e70f51844&vxp=mtr
order an hid kit and it would all look so saweet

Great Idea!

Overd0s3
01-24-13, 01:34 PM
Not a bad idea, would be cool to fit some ultra bright LEDs back there or something.
Where in NJ are you?

LS6Steve
01-24-13, 05:21 PM
I'd also suggest re-mounting your oil cooler in a different position or run the lines differently, or paint the braided lines black... eyes go straight to it.

jclayc
01-24-13, 07:32 PM
I'm up in Essex county off 280...

Re: the oil cooler lines... Maybe it's because i don't see it as a luxury car any more... I kind of like seeing the lines. You know something just ain't right

lilgCTS-V
01-25-13, 12:39 PM
Honestly i really like the idea, of course now its time to clean it up but thank you for your post its original !

jclayc
01-25-13, 01:00 PM
I'm considering amber LED strips like this : http://www.customdynamics.com/truflex_flexible_led_lighting.htm still wouldn't be DOT, though.

A thin, simple 6" wide set in a harder "case" would be best like the ones etcts-v put up. I might put the lights below the mesh instead of behind it

lilgCTS-V
01-25-13, 01:31 PM
o BTW, my business is in north newark if you wanna meet up one day and shoot the shit.

jclayc
01-29-13, 06:47 PM
I decided, instead of going with LED strips or anything, that the point was to keep it as clean and simple as possible. martinV hit on a good idea: use the little triangle lights in the headlight as a turn signal. They're the same 194 size bulb as the side markers. I had some amber colored bulbs, so I spliced them in to the existing side markers and just left the triangle lights pulled out and back inside the headlight assembly. Works like a charm. (I've got LEDs on the way to replace the bulbs.)

I also ordered 0.25" wire, diamond style mesh from http://www.customcargrills.com/products.asp?cat=46 that I painted black for now but will plastidip like the grille sooner or later. Crappy pics, but I can take more. I think upgrading to the LEDs will be nice.

http://i.imgur.com/cUaA86y.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/f7TGSxi.jpg

Overd0s3
02-01-13, 12:56 AM
thats cool man I'm off 208, sounds like you're about 30-45 min. You go to any local meets? ever been to jersey city on a friday night?

jclayc
02-01-13, 09:29 AM
Overd03 - I've never really gone to any local meet ups but would be interested. Jersey City is about 15 minutes from me, no problem.

lilgCTS-V - that'd be cool. I'll drop you a PM one day when I know I'm not working in the city the next day and I'll stop by hang out. Maybe a Thursday afternoon.

kerberos
02-02-13, 08:32 AM
Like the idea of the corner bulb as the blinker. Since you have spare wiring now at the location, you could try to do a switchback. Auto illumination just put out a switchback 194. May just need a the steady spliced in.
http://autolumination.com/switchback.html

etcts-v
02-11-13, 10:05 PM
Looks good I believe I will pull my fogs and do this myself!