: Disappointed in ATS exterior design; ATS-V must step up



rand49er
01-18-13, 06:57 AM
There. I've said it. I've held my tongue for a while now, but I have to say the ATS' styling just doesn't send chills up and down my leg. In my world, then, this would mean the ATS-V has a tough starting point and needs to have treatments done sufficient to continue the tradition that all the other V series models have managed to do, namely, look classy but you know this isn't a regular XXX (<-- fill in the blank CTS, XLR, STS).

Am I the only one? Anybody else feel this way?

rand49er
01-18-13, 09:13 PM
Okay ... okay ... I AM the only one. :hide:

thebigjimsho
01-19-13, 02:38 AM
Go to bed, Randy...

rand49er
01-19-13, 09:51 AM
This ATS-V forum has a long way to go. :canttalk:

HandletheTruth
01-20-13, 04:08 AM
No, you are not alone - I am also not blown away by the ATS exterior design. It is distinctive and the headlights are a nice touch - but the front end proportions are not quite right. The front grille is too large making the hood line too high and there is no factory option for blacking out the chrome trim. Hope one does not have to buy an ATS-V to get more attractive front end styling.

rand49er
01-20-13, 05:25 PM
If you look back on the '03 CTS, it was a really bold statement in styling ... something which the V augmented into a very pleasing design. I just don't see this with the ATS.

Surprise me, GM.

mikesul
01-21-13, 12:37 PM
No, you are not alone - I am also not blown away by the ATS exterior design. It is distinctive and the headlights are a nice touch - but the front end proportions are not quite right. The front grille is too large making the hood line too high and there is no factory option for blacking out the chrome trim. Hope one does not have to buy an ATS-V to get more attractive front end styling.

Was looking for a blacked out aftermarket grill for my ATS I get tomorrow at E&G and saw at the bottom of two models "does not fit the 2014 ATS-V". Seems someone knows when the "V" is arriving.[COLOR="Silver"]

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rand49er
01-21-13, 02:13 PM
Was looking for a blacked out aftermarket grill for my ATS I get tomorrow at E&G and saw at the bottom of two models "does not fit the 2014 ATS-V". Seems someone knows when the "V" is arriving.[COLOR="Silver"]

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thebigjimsho
01-21-13, 03:29 PM
Crotchety.

GProdigy
01-24-13, 07:01 PM
ATS seems like a good car to Modify. Just like the 3series owners do.

An modded correctly ATS should turn heads easily

Downmarket
01-29-13, 10:22 PM
:histeric:



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I used vinyl on grill. I have not had chance to do bottoms of grill yet. It's cheap non permanent option.

exesivefire
01-29-13, 10:26 PM
Hmmm... I might like that

Atswatcher
01-31-13, 09:31 PM
<img src="http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=103106"/>

I used vinyl on grill. I have not had chance to do bottoms of grill yet. It's cheap non permanent option.

You mean vinyl wrap? Looks good, how long will it last?

Downmarket
02-01-13, 12:19 PM
Yes vinyl wrap my tinter did window trim and grill. He said if hand washed should last my 3 year lease no problem. Not expensive to do so if I had to replace not a problem

My friend has had for years on his car and still looks great. Another option is plasti dip. I used plasti dip on my cts coupe made huge difference. Pm for pics of coupe. I did all chrome trim and wheels in a few hours.

Downmarket
02-01-13, 12:30 PM
Window trim made big difference

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Atswatcher
02-01-13, 05:19 PM
Window trim made big difference

<img src="http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=103206"/>

Thx for the info, good to know some options out there.

I still hope GM offers a black-out trim with lowered suspension in the near future.

rand49er
02-02-13, 01:31 PM
... I still hope GM offers a black-out trim with lowered suspension in the near future.They must have a number of internally proposed renditions some with black-out trim, etc. I'm hoping they give us something a bit on the aggressive side and not too bland.

Downmarket
02-03-13, 08:00 PM
They must have a number of internally proposed renditions some with black-out trim, etc. I'm hoping they give us something a bit on the aggressive side and not too bland.

I think cadillac still thinks chrome is good. While most sport models offer black trim(like bmw) In Cadillacs case the chrome is considered an upgrade. On a sporty model I think most buyers would prefer the black trim over chrome. At least I did.

After I blacked out trim the difference was night and day. In my opinion it looks so much better

Downmarket
02-03-13, 09:39 PM
I think cadillac still thinks chrome is good. While most sport models offer black trim(like bmw) In Cadillacs case the chrome is considered an upgrade. On a sporty model I think most buyers would prefer the black trim over chrome. At least I did.

After I blacked out trim the difference was night and day. In my opinion it looks so much better



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I removed crest from cadillac symbol and de badged

JFJr
02-03-13, 09:41 PM
Black-out is bland and overdone. Tasteful chrome or polished aluminum is much more aggressive and beautiful. Black wheels look brown when they are dirty. Thankfully, we have a choice.

Jud

Downmarket
02-03-13, 09:54 PM
Black-out is bland and overdone. Tasteful chrome or polished aluminum is much more aggressive and beautiful. Black wheels look brown when they are dirty. Thankfully, we have a choice.

Jud

That is the problem. We don't have a choice. I wish they would offer black trim on luxury or performance model. Different strokes for different folks.

I think alloy and chrome wheels also look terrible when there dirty. In fact I think break dust is less detectable on a black rim

JFJr
02-03-13, 10:05 PM
That is the problem. We don't have a choice. I wish they would offer black trim on luxury or performance model. Different strokes for different folks.

I think alloy and chrome wheels also look terrible when there dirty. In fact I think break dust is less detectable on a black rim

I'm not familiar with "break" dust.

Downmarket
02-04-13, 01:55 AM
I'm not familiar with "break" dust.

Loser

thebigjimsho
02-11-13, 12:47 PM
Hahahahhahahahah

Hoosier Daddy
02-13-13, 09:07 AM
There. I've said it. I've held my tongue for a while now, but I have to say the ATS' styling just doesn't send chills up and down my leg. In my world, then, this would mean the ATS-V has a tough starting point and needs to have treatments done sufficient to continue the tradition that all the other V series models have managed to do, namely, look classy but you know this isn't a regular XXX (<-- fill in the blank CTS, XLR, STS).

Am I the only one? Anybody else feel this way?
You are probably in the majority about wanting to flaunt having a V (cosmetic differences). But I think you are in the minority to think the ATS is a bad starting point. I believe most people think the ATS looks better than the current CTS, including the V. The CTSs just look chunky by comparison. V cosmetics don't cure that. Many would prefer a CTS-V over an ATS but for the performance, not because a CTS looks better than an ATS.

Don't worry about what everyone else thinks. What's right for the next guy/gal isn't always what's right for you. I'm married to the best woman in the world but billions of men have never shown any interest.

JSATS
02-13-13, 09:50 AM
I like the look of the ATS especially compared to the CTS. I think the CTS is overdone all around including that huge front grill. The ATS keeps the overall look of the CTS yet is a bit toned down and is a look I prefere. As far as the chrome goes I guess it depends on what color ATS you have. Mine is Black Raven and the chrome accents look great with that color and I don't need anymore black. When I first saw the ATS in person I thought it might be a bit understated but in the premium trim with the premium wheels and lights the car looks awesome all shined up and really stands out in a crowd of parked cars.

rand49er
02-13-13, 07:31 PM
In '03, the CTS made a styling statement. Many didn't like it, but more did, and it grew on some of those who didn't like it initially. I just don't see the ATS having that kind of impact. Understated? Yes. I'm saving my pennies for the ATS-V, BUT if I don't like it, I'll just keep my old '05 CTS-V.

mberisha
02-14-13, 11:51 PM
^^^^Randy....concur.....

I'm debating myself whether to unload my CTS-V and jump into the new ATS-V when they hit the streets.....

Bottomline: The wife is prego....so the '08 Zo6 Vette I was looking at is off the table....and I deploy next month....so I'm in the market Nov '13!

Cadillac Cust Svc
02-15-13, 05:23 PM
I'm sorry that I'm just seeing this thread for the first time today! I'll be documenting everyone's feedback regarding the ATS design where the appropriate GM teams can access it, and please don't hesitate to contact me if any of you would like me to look questions further for you. (I'm reachable via email at Katie_Lucille@gmexpert.com!)

Best,

Katie
Cadillac Customer Service

rand49er
02-16-13, 11:27 AM
I'm sorry that I'm just seeing this thread for the first time today! I'll be documenting everyone's feedback regarding the ATS design where the appropriate GM teams can access it, and please don't hesitate to contact me if any of you would like me to look questions further for you. (I'm reachable via email at Katie_Lucille@gmexpert.com!)

Best,

Katie
Cadillac Customer ServiceProbably way too late to have any influence for a model to be introduced so soon as I'm sure parts have been designed and sourced, Katie, but thanks for your efforts.

The whole point is, the V Series needs to be distinctive and have a visual presence that turns heads. It's a big part of why we'd buy it. Under the skin, the current ATS platform is a great start, but just adding a mesh grill and fatter tires will not sufficiently meet enthusiasts' expectations. Maybe taking a page or two out of the C7's apparent success with prospective buyers is in order.

Thanks, again, Katie.

Downmarket
03-16-13, 12:09 PM
I like the look of the ATS especially compared to the CTS. I think the CTS is overdone all around including that huge front grill. The ATS keeps the overall look of the CTS yet is a bit toned down and is a look I prefere. As far as the chrome goes I guess it depends on what color ATS you have. Mine is Black Raven and the chrome accents look great with that color and I don't need anymore black. When I first saw the ATS in person I thought it might be a bit understated but in the premium trim with the premium wheels and lights the car looks awesome all shined up and really stands out in a crowd of parked cars.

I had the cts sedan and coupe and just leased the ats. The interior of the ats is so much nicer than the cts. Between the cue system, hidden compartment and gauges. It's night and day. In both my cts's I never had a compartment that would fit my sunglasses. The ats not only looks good but has deep pockets in doors and the hidden compartment in dash is some straight James Bond $hit. I also think the exterior has much cleaner lines and better appearance. Performance wise I feel that my 2.0 turbo feels faster than my 3.6 coupe with much better mpg

mikesul
03-18-13, 03:18 PM
I also like the blacked out look.

Chris Shillinger
03-20-13, 12:43 PM
I was looking at the 2013 Cadillac Accessories Book. The ATS accessories include a black chrome grille, Dual-Exhaust upgrade, 19" painted wheels, sueded steering wheel and shift knob, performance alloy pedals, rear deck spoiler in body color, premium trim and all-weather mats. Cadillac has your back.

Ben003
03-20-13, 08:45 PM
I also like the blacked out look.

Is that black raven or metallic?

Hoosier Daddy
03-21-13, 12:33 AM
Is that black raven or metallic?
It looks like the grey.

rand49er
03-21-13, 12:59 PM
I also like the blacked out look.I must admit, I do like the look of the car from that view.

mikesul
03-21-13, 04:39 PM
It is gray. Have the body color spoiler also.

JD03Cobra
03-21-13, 05:50 PM
I'm not a huge fan of the ATS but I think there's a lot of potential for the V model...Fill out the wheel wells, aggressive front end with an improved grill, hood, & splitter. Change up the back end with quad exhaust, 6 piston brakes, upgraded suspension & a potent motor...Hopefully they get aggressive.

To me the V2 is all about the front end over the base CTS visually. Obviously they is way more going on underneath.

Fraggy
03-27-13, 02:08 AM
The grill is amazing. Good work mike.

YoshiFD3S
04-30-13, 03:18 AM
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e356/YoshiFD3S/AE30EE5A-6927-4A4D-A861-83A23BC6F8D6-11561-000006EDCE1B5830_zps270d82d4.jpg

My grille came painted this way, and I like it. You guys don't care for it?

hood101010
04-30-13, 03:15 PM
Lower fascia needs more aero characteristics. Fake lower inlets and mesh look bad enough with the lower LED models but looks horrendous on models without lower LED. When are American car manufacturer going to realize that fake inlets, ducts, etc look fake. You're not fooling anyone. Kudos to D3 for creating a replacement but they need just an insert replacement, not an entire fascia replacement and for both models. I love the rest of the design.

RJCCTS
05-05-13, 05:44 PM
<img src="http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=103106"/>

I used vinyl on grill. I have not had chance to do bottoms of grill yet. It's cheap non permanent option.

Hey what type o vinyl you used 3m gloss black looks great

thebigjimsho
05-06-13, 05:06 PM
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e356/YoshiFD3S/AE30EE5A-6927-4A4D-A861-83A23BC6F8D6-11561-000006EDCE1B5830_zps270d82d4.jpg

My grille came painted this way, and I like it. You guys don't care for it?I don't care for that Hoehn plate, I'll tell you that...