: Wanted Cadillac photographs of the 70´s‏ with Propane equipment



Pallo RS
01-11-13, 04:28 PM
Hello,


my name is Pablo Redondo, I wrote from Spain, I own a Cadillac Eldorado convertible ´73 and a convertible ´71 project.

I'm very interested in getting pictures of Cadillac cars of the 70's with Propane equipment installed.

In case you have some I would appreciate you send me, specially Eldorados convertibles.

In case you do not have them appreciate indicate me where I can get them.

My mail: vahidep@hotmail.com

Thank you very much
Best regards from Spain.

CADforce69
01-11-13, 06:45 PM
Hi Pablo, Welcome to this forum. :welcome: I´m from Spain too. This forum is usually a great help as there is a lot of experienced forum members willing to help. Most members from the U.S. but in the last times more and more members from Europe and Australia are joining.

Propane conversion is very rare in the U.S. Maybe someone in Europe or Australia may know some case.

I live in Madrid. Where do you live in Spain?

Ruben

70eldo
01-15-13, 07:27 PM
You will hardly find propane conversions on classics in the US. Hope for people from Europe, like Ruben to respond.
I know in Holland it is very popular as propane is very cheap there. Google "LPG" (=Liquid Propane Gas) combined with "Cadillac" or something. Impco is a commonly known brand for LPG conversions.

http://www.ibuko.com/DreamHC/Pagina6.html/ this guy is the technical advisor of the Cadillac & Lasalle Club of the Netherlands. I know he installed LPG in at least one of his Eldorados. He is very helpful.

BTW, he posted pictures of restoring his rare Jim Baker 75 Fleetwood Wagon!

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Here's what I found:

​http://vidgrids.com/impco-lpg

CADforce69
01-16-13, 05:37 AM
It seems previously to all conversions made in Spain, the car must comply with ECE/ONU R-115 regulations. If not, it has to be individually certified. Then, you can do the GLP conversion and then pass inspection to be approved (ITV). If conversion does not comply with the above mentioned standards this modification won´t be approved. This is explained in detail here:
http://javiercostas.com/2010/05/la-gran-putada-del-glp/

Here you can find a list of certified shops to make GLP conversions in Spain:

http://www.ahorraengas.com/
http://www.ahorraengas.com/talleres_GasPointCenter_PDF.php

You may call the closest one and get info on your particular case but as far as I´ve been abe to read about this topic, in Spain it´s extremely difficult making this conversion in a legal way thanks to our wonderful politicians and their intrincate regulations on this topic (worse for a car this old). Some people take their cars to another European country to register it (matriculación), making the conversion legally (very simple) and then take it back to register it in Spain again. It´s sad...

70eldo
01-16-13, 07:55 AM
It seems previously to all conversions made in Spain, the car must comply with ECE/ONU R-115 regulations. If not, it has to be individually certified. Then, you can do the GLP conversion and then pass inspection to be approved (ITV). If conversion does not comply with the above mentioned standards this modification won´t be approved. This is explained in detail here:
http://javiercostas.com/2010/05/la-gran-putada-del-glp/

Here you can find a list of certified shops to make GLP conversions in Spain:

http://www.ahorraengas.com/
http://www.ahorraengas.com/talleres_GasPointCenter_PDF.php

You may call the closest one and get info on your particular case but as far as I´ve been abe to read about this topic, in Spain it´s extremely difficult making this conversion in a legal way thanks to our wonderful politicians and their intrincate regulations on this topic (worse for a car this old). Some people take their cars to another European country to register it (matriculación), making the conversion legally (very simple) and then take it back to register it in Spain again. It´s sad...

I just forgot about the LPG. I don't drive it that much that the cheaper gas would justify the costs for the installation.

CADforce69
01-16-13, 10:32 AM
I just forgot about the LPG. I don't drive it that much that the cheaper gas would justify the costs for the installation.

That´s the point. For a daily driver probably in 20,000-40,000 Kms you pay back investment but in the last 2 years I made 6,000 Kms with my caddy... And you must consider that you loose some power using propane.

X E Ryder
01-16-13, 10:37 AM
Holy cow that brings back some memories!

I wish I could help - when I was very young I remember my dad had our brown 2 door el dorado converted to propane - there were two tanks in the trunk laying side by side left to right at the far back of the trunk - I'm guessing they were 20 lbs each

Ill ask dad if he remembers what the kit was!

CADforce69
01-16-13, 10:52 AM
Bingo! One of the few U.S. conversions :)

It would be great if you could post some pics ;)