: Black headlight mod.



TheDarkKnight
01-09-13, 10:19 PM
Hey guys,
Coming from a Toyota tundra where all we did was this mod, myself and a friend are gonna start doing the V lights too. I am going to do mine first and post pictures. For those of you who are scared to do this yourself and would rather pay to have it done feel free to PM and we can figure it out. With labor, time, core exchange for those of you who need it, and materials I am looking in the $300 a set range.
Also if you would like to add oracle halos to your lights we can arrange that too.
I am away from home right now for work but am going to start taking orders in February once I complete mine.....stay tuned and PM me for preliminary interest.


Thanks
Mike

TheDarkKnight
01-10-13, 05:19 PM
Anyone interested?

Smokin80
01-10-13, 11:24 PM
I think you will have to show your workmanship first....

Blakester
01-11-13, 01:36 AM
Will follow your mod. As you develop it.

tcullenm3
01-11-13, 11:09 AM
How's the visibility at night? Any pics of the Tundra so we can get an idea of the final look?

TheDarkKnight
01-11-13, 11:53 AM
Here's a link to the finished light

http://www.tundratalk.net/forums/attachments/new-member-introductions/20129d1334692139-dark-knight-bhlm1.jpg

We can also put halos in the lights
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/southsidesk8er1/551787_3662302593340_337656549_n.jpg

Smokin80
01-11-13, 02:07 PM
Looks pretty awesome!

TheDarkKnight
01-11-13, 02:56 PM
Yeah we have done between 50-100 pairs of tundria lights so we have the whole procedure down to a science. The V's lights are a little larger,but the end result is the same. Hopefully we can help a few of you guys out that want this done.

Smokin80
01-11-13, 06:05 PM
What are the headlights worth.....outright. From the dealer and then modified?

TheDarkKnight
01-11-13, 06:58 PM
Well new headlights are around 800-1000 a piece i believe. So dependent upon what people want to do, I was going to pick up a core pair or two depending on number of customers, send those out to people while they send me thiers to mod, and when complete swap back. Or if your car is garaged or not driven daily, just send your set to be done. Turn around time is about 5 days from your door to my door, work completed, and then mailed back.
So back to your question, the only real cost if your sending me your lights is the cost of the painting, halos (if you add them) and shipping.

NathanScott
01-12-13, 12:49 AM
Here was my adventure....

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2009-cadillac-cts-v-appearance-mods/261691-black-out-headlight-mod.html

TheDarkKnight
01-12-13, 08:36 AM
You were the inspiration Nathan I just thought id bring it to the masses

NathanScott
01-12-13, 11:56 AM
Awesome man. I had a few requests back when I did it.

Purevil
01-19-13, 01:06 AM
You still modding? I would love my lights steeped up a bit. If so what all can you do???

TheDarkKnight
01-19-13, 08:57 AM
Going to be doing them in the next week or so. Im waiting for some other parts for another project so when I pull car apart I can do it all at once. I will post pictures as soon as I'm finished. I know you guys will love it!

TheDarkKnight
01-25-13, 04:38 PM
Started the process today. The housings were blast cabinet sanded, primed x 3 coats, and so far one coat of textured black. They will look awesome! cleaned all of the old silicone from the tracks to get a nice flat surface to re-seal. Also did one coat of VHT over amber marker.

TheDarkKnight
01-26-13, 07:31 PM
Sorry for not completing the above post, posting from the iPhone sucks.

Anyway.......I am going to be gluing my lights back up tomorrow and finish tinting the amber lights. We already have one customer, Ben at Weapon X.
Once I get finished product pictures up for everybody, I will be taking orders for the beginning of febuary moving forward. I will post a different thread with all the pertinent details for all of you on all of the finishes, colors, and Halo's installed.....yes Halo's folks!

the attached photo is after 3 coats of the textured black paint on the internal housings. They look great!

http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag46/michaelgbemis/photo6_zps802728dc.jpg

TheDarkKnight
01-27-13, 10:49 PM
Taking after our fellow member NathanScott, I decided to delve into the realm of performing the Black Headlight Mod on my lights for my 2012 CTS V Sedan. I did this in large amounts with my partner for my former Toyota Tundra and members of our other forum. All in all, we probably performed between 100-125 truck sets. With that being said, we have had great success in not only Tundra lights, but also other brands of vehicles like Lexus, Ford, and Nissan.

After posting a random post on "the other forum" I made contact with Ben at Weapon X. He is going to be our first customer in performing this mod. His lights are being shipped to us now, but below I have posted a few pics of the work being done in process, and some of the finished product.

We take apart all the lights by heating them in the oven, take out all old glue. We take the interior housing apart and paint the interior in either gloss, matte, or textured black. We also can tint the amber vertical lenses and the DRLs. As you can see in my pictures, I tinted the amber lense, but did not tint the DRL's. Ben is going to have the same light set up as me, but his DRL's are going to be tinted. My lights have the Textured black paint. Once the paint has dried and cured, they are resealed with a window grade retrofit adhesive made specifically for lights, and then reheated to set and cure the lights bond.

Aside from just doing the black headlight mod, we also can install Halo's in the lights at the same time they are apart. They come in a standard four ring halo set, 2 for each light. They will be wired and left with the lines to be hard wired and run into your interior control.

For those of you interested we will be offering this service at a nominal fee compared to some of the big shops that other members have had nominal success with (not naming any names). But the most important thing is that we DO NOT CUT the housing or lenses, Like the others do!

For a standard BHLM service we are doing both headlights with your choice of paint finish in either Gloss, Matte, Or textured for $350

For the Standard BHLM with the amber lense tinted as seen in pictures below add $25, or $375

For Standard BHLM with tinted ambers AND tinted DRL's add another $25, or $400

Standard turn around time for just BHLM's is 2-3 days once we recieve them.

For those of you that want Halo's installed on your lights, this money must be paid up front because we do not keep the rings in stock and are ordered for each set of lights. The light kits with installation and the BHLM performed to the ring of Halos is $400, plus cost of whichever BHL modifications you choose. Turn around time for lights with Halos installed is 4-5 days once we recieve lights.

Reservations will be taken on a first come first serve basis. We will be performing two sets a week starting the week of 2/10/13. Money is fully refundable if you choose to cancel your reservation.

If you are intersted in setting up a reservation, please email me at Michaelgbemis@gmail.com, include your desired date you wish to ship and have performed, your desired paint finish, and any other ala carte mods you would like done.

Be sure to check out this thread for more pics as we finish Ben's lights and other members!

Cheers!
Mike aka THe Dark Knight

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tcullenm3
01-28-13, 10:49 AM
Hey Mike

I'm not having any luck with the photo attachments, either says the pic has been removed, or takes me to the main login page for PB

TheDarkKnight
01-28-13, 12:37 PM
Ok send me an email to michaelgbemis@gmail.com and I'll send the pics. Sorry for the trouble. I suck At Internet posting!

tcullenm3
01-28-13, 12:53 PM
no problem, I was actually able to view them on the other site... they look great, and will be on my "to do"list..

TheDarkKnight
01-28-13, 01:05 PM
I'll be waiting..... Stay tuned for more installed pics

TheDarkKnight
01-29-13, 03:54 PM
Thought this would generate more interest. It's crickets over here......

TheDarkKnight
02-02-13, 06:32 PM
Lights finished and installed. These are with the amber lenses tinted, DRL's untinted and Black Textured paint on housing. What do you think?

http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag46/michaelgbemis/headlightone_zps97445a75.jpg
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AmerLux
02-02-13, 10:00 PM
Looks great! Dig it.

TheDarkKnight
02-07-13, 05:11 PM
Open for business.

Mike02z
02-07-13, 06:22 PM
Mike, These look amazing. They would go perfectly with my all black theme. Do you offer any installation services since I think we live fairly close? How hard is it to remove the lights? I do some minor work myself but don't want to take a chance on damaging those expensive lights. Maybe with my tax refund I can look to get this done.

TheDarkKnight
02-07-13, 07:33 PM
Removing lights isn't too bad, you just have to unclip bumper and unbolt lights. Pretty easy. If you could ship them on a Friday, we could get them back by the next Friday at latest if you were just doing standard bhlm with no hAlos.

It would look great on your car, since we are so similar

TheDarkKnight
02-09-13, 08:23 PM
Some recent pictures of another set we just finished for Ben over at WeaponXmotorsports. He had black textured paint and tinted DRLs.

Our next project this week is a set of lights with tinted amber markers, thunder grey matched housings and Oracle halos. Should be great

TheDarkKnight
02-09-13, 09:48 PM
The plague continues......we can talk about a engine rattle or everyone's impressions on Recaro seats for a lifetime......

SoCalCTSV
02-10-13, 12:31 AM
Pardon my ignorance but what is an Oracle Halo?

TheDarkKnight
02-10-13, 10:27 AM
It's the brand of light

Wannago
02-10-13, 01:30 PM
I think I might just sign up for this too, once the weather warms up enough to remove my headlights. I do want to see how the halos turn out. Which halo will you be using? I looked at their site, and am curious to see how the plasma ring looks.

SoCalCTSV
02-10-13, 02:55 PM
It's the brand of light

So it's the ring around the light? Does it stay on for daytime driving?

TheDarkKnight
02-10-13, 03:22 PM
Yes. You can wire them directly to your drl's or you can run a switch to your drivers panel, or hook them to your fogs. Pretty much anything you want to do.
As far as the look, they are sold in a wide variety of colors, and for our 09-13 models, the halo goes around the single eye light in the housing. Looks good.

SoCalCTSV
02-10-13, 03:36 PM
Yes. You can wire them directly to your drl's or you can run a switch to your drivers panel, or hook them to your fogs. Pretty much anything you want to do.
As far as the look, they are sold in a wide variety of colors, and for our 09-13 models, the halo goes around the single eye light in the housing. Looks good.

I'm intrigued. Can you do a core type of deposit as this is my daily driver?

TheDarkKnight
02-10-13, 03:56 PM
I would love to, but as you know replacement lights are very expensive. If business goes crazy then maybe, but right now it's not worth it to put out 700+

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Unless that is you have a nice inside stock tip.......
(I see your in wealth management)

SoCalCTSV
02-10-13, 07:36 PM
Wealth management means we manage it. We don't make it. But I was a stockbroker for a dozen years.

TheDarkKnight
02-10-13, 08:19 PM
I know I know. Then manage my wealth and talk me out of my $935 car payment a month! Lol

TheDarkKnight
02-15-13, 11:54 PM
Alright everyone, here is a little update on my next project that we are working on. WGT3 wanted his housings painted Thunder Gray to match his paint job, he wanted his amber markers painted over to match the TG as well, tinted DRL's, and of course white Halo's! The housing ring of the halo's is also being matched to the TG. The pics include our post sanding process with 3 coats of primer to ensure good adhesion, each part of the light painted individually, and 3 coats of the TG paint on housings and markers. We still are going to be putting 2 more coats on everything!

Moving forward gentleman (and ladies) we have the capability to color match to any color your would like, we would just need the color code from inside of your door sill. We also are capable of getting many different colors of Halo's. (red, green, blue, ambers, white, and color changing) Also we are able to do two ring halo kits that have one ring lighting as one color, and the other ring a seperate color. These Halo's do not interfere with the lights in any way and keep full functionality. The Halo's can be installed to your high beams, fog lights, DRL's, or we can provide a remote control to mount for an additional charge.

If anyone has any concerns or questions for their individual application, feel free to PM, call, or email me. My personal email is Michaelgbemis@gmail.com, my cell is 267 885 4114, and of course you all know me here as The Dark Knight..........(play cheesy super hero music)

We have a tentative mid March reservation for our friend GroceryGettinV. He's got some sick plans......stay tuned!

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TheDarkKnight
02-16-13, 05:46 PM
The plague worsens, the contagion is spreading........

thebigjimsho
02-17-13, 09:57 AM
Alright everyone, here is a little update on my next project that we are working on. WGT3 wanted his housings painted Thunder Gray to match his paint job, he wanted his amber markers painted over to match the TG as well, tinted DRL's, and of course white Halo's! The housing ring of the halo's is also being matched to the TG. The pics include our post sanding process with 3 coats of primer to ensure good adhesion, each part of the light painted individually, and 3 coats of the TG paint on housings and markers. We still are going to be putting 2 more coats on everything!

Moving forward gentleman (and ladies) we have the capability to color match to any color your would like, we would just need the color code from inside of your door sill. We also are capable of getting many different colors of Halo's. (red, green, blue, ambers, white, and color changing) Also we are able to do two ring halo kits that have one ring lighting as one color, and the other ring a seperate color. These Halo's do not interfere with the lights in any way and keep full functionality. The Halo's can be installed to your high beams, fog lights, DRL's, or we can provide a remote control to mount for an additional charge.

If anyone has any concerns or questions for their individual application, feel free to PM, call, or email me. My personal email is Michaelgbemis@gmail.com, my cell is 267 885 4114, and of course you all know me here as The Dark Knight..........(play cheesy super hero music)

We have a tentative mid March reservation for our friend GroceryGettinV. He's got some sick plans......stay tuned!



Those pics look like something by Lucas out of a Star Wars prop room...

SoCalCTSV
02-17-13, 01:14 PM
I'm still confused how this works. I pull my headlights, send them to you and you work on them for how long?

TheDarkKnight
02-17-13, 03:00 PM
Round trip is 4-5 days for regular service, and about a week if you're getting halos.

TheDarkKnight
02-18-13, 04:47 PM
alright gentleman......WGT3's lights are complete!
First a picture of the color match housing and Halo backing all painted Thunder Grey
http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag46/michaelgbemis/bill9_zps917d9c43.jpg

Next a sexy picture of his new Halo's all lit up like the fourth of july!
http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag46/michaelgbemis/bill12_zpsf716da66.jpg

now a shot of them without the halos on....with the color matched TG paint on the vertical amber markers
http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag46/michaelgbemis/bill11_zpse17024c7.jpg

finally...a close up of the Amber marker delete paint matched!
http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag46/michaelgbemis/bill10_zpsee5194fd.jpg


Hope you guys all love the work! Look forward to hearing from everyone with tax money to burn!
We are also now doing tailight and marker tinting as well. Send us all your lights and have a totally new look in under a week!

thebigjimsho
02-18-13, 05:43 PM
I don't like to "rice" it up too much, but if I keep my V into the summer I may do this. It looks high quality...

TheDarkKnight
02-18-13, 05:54 PM
Jim thank you for the compliments, we do put a lot of time and pride into our work!

TheDarkKnight
02-19-13, 10:41 PM
So with all this being said.....anyone interested?

thebigjimsho
02-20-13, 01:06 AM
I can't say yes because tax season rapes me hard. But, if I survive, I may be interested in the late spring...

TheDarkKnight
02-20-13, 08:30 AM
I can't say yes because tax season rapes me hard. But, if I survive, I may be interested in the late spring...

I got killed too,owe $13k!

SoCalCTSV
02-20-13, 08:38 AM
I may call you. I and flying to Miami Sun for a week so if I can get the lights out Friday and mailed out Sat, so long as I get them back by the next weekend. Need quotes for painting Black Raven and Halos. I'm in So Cal.

TheDarkKnight
02-20-13, 09:52 AM
PM me your email and I'll work that price up today. We have a set of white halos in stock so that will cut down on some time

SoCalCTSV
02-20-13, 02:51 PM
What are color options for the Halos?


Is it legal in CA to paint or tint the the markers or driving lights?

TheDarkKnight
02-20-13, 03:00 PM
Not sure legalities in CA, but the halo colors come in white, Green,blue, red

Mike02z
02-20-13, 08:45 PM
Technically, any altering of the factory lighting is typically illegal for road use. This includes tinting the marker lights and tail lights. Whether your state cares or not is the real question. I have a friend who has ripped off his cats, put LT headers on, tinted all his lights including the headlights and windshield and still manages to pass inspection/emissions every year. I have not gone as far as tinting my headlights or windshield (have no plans to either) but in my state (PA) TheDarkKnight's mod would not even raise an eyebrow at any inspection place or the dealer. They won't even notice. It also really does not impact the brightness of the headlights. While it may be technically illegal to tint the DRL's what is the danger? Not like you use them to see. In CA they can be real ba*l basters so who knows. I would suspect this would not draw much attention though. The Halos come on many cars and are not illegal but again, your altering the factory lighting. I doubt anyone would care about these either. I think your more likely to get hassled with tinted tails than with this mod.

I do have my tails and markers tinted. I passed inspection this year with no problem. Being LED's the tails are still very bright even with 20% tint. The problem is if someone runs into the back of me they could claim it was due to my taillights being tinted. PA state law says you can't alter any lighting on the car but also says your tail lights must be visible from 100' away in the dark. My tails are visible at 100' but since I altered them, technically the car is not road legal. That said, no one has stopped me and I have had a cop car directly behind me a few times. It does give them the opportunity to pull you over and hassle you or give you a "must correct" citation but that is a chance I'm willing to take. When I see what some of the idiots around me drive, I figure a little tinting is the least of the cop's worries.

I also just purchased a new set of tail lights that were take off's at a great price. I plan to permanently paint those and remove the tint from the current tails and just keep them in case I get hassled. I can then just swap them out quickly. The tinted tails with the same tint used for the windows did not come out perfectly so I'm going to paint a set instead.

SoCalCTSV
02-20-13, 08:54 PM
Excellent feedback. Please quote for painting housing Black Raven, tinted markers, DRLs and white Halos preferably price per item per light.

TheDarkKnight
02-20-13, 09:11 PM
I will email you the quote tonight. Thanks for the clarification mike!

thebigjimsho
02-25-13, 11:30 AM
I got killed too,owe $13k!I don't really like your post, I just "Liked" it. I don't know what I owe yet. There may be a chance I have to sell the V to cover mine if it's bad enough...

TheDarkKnight
02-25-13, 01:30 PM
Well I can say I unlike you having to sell your V to pay the government!

Mike02z
02-25-13, 05:34 PM
I got killed too,owe $13k!

I hear the same thing from my brother. "Oh man Uncle Sam is taking 30K from me" and my retort is always "You have to make it for them to take it" They take the same 30K from me. It's just mine comes out automatically each pay. We all get screwed whether self employed or not. Just the screwing is not all at one time in my case. It's a 52 week screw :D

I so want to do this mod but decided only if I get a take-off set of lights, cheap. I always want the option to swap out to go back to stock.

TheDarkKnight
02-25-13, 07:59 PM
I got banged after my 52 week screw, owe an additional 13k after I sold off some rental properties under value......no extra money made here! They consider upside down home costs untaxed income.

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Working on getting some cores for the summer, so sit tight mike, I may be able to help.

Mike02z
02-25-13, 09:52 PM
Ouch! That DOES hurt.

TheDarkKnight
02-27-13, 08:19 PM
We are now offering CORES for those of you who can't have downtime! First opening is for the week of 3/17. First deposit holds reservation. PM,email michaelgbemis@gmail.com,or call 267 885 4114 to secure your spot!

TheDarkKnight
03-04-13, 01:17 PM
Booked for 3/10 and 3/17. Who else wants in!

TheDarkKnight
03-04-13, 03:26 PM
I have a good mod for appearance only. Send your lights to me for color matching or blacking out!

TheDarkKnight
03-10-13, 07:43 PM
Still can fit in a few jobs guys before 4/11. We have a set of cores now!

johnnytaboo
03-19-13, 08:56 PM
Just so you know, this will be one of the first mods I do..... I haven't even made my first payment yet though, so I'm trying not to get ahead of myself.

Being that my car is a DD, would you anticipate any moisture issues with the lights being resealed? She's going to see all types of weather.

Thanks,
John

TheDarkKnight
03-24-13, 12:56 AM
We'll be here waiting Johnny

RaVeNous
03-24-13, 09:39 PM
$$300 for the halos installed?

TheDarkKnight
03-25-13, 10:56 AM
Yes plus whatever black headlight mods you prefer

sonyab523
04-07-13, 03:36 AM
I bought some oracle halo's but they have been on back order for a month. So for halo's (if you've already purchased them), tinted DRL's and ambers it's $700 correct?

tomtomqaz
08-17-13, 03:09 AM
Are you still doing these mods. Are you interested In doing it for a regular cts?

squackatu
10-23-13, 10:29 PM
Does it matter if you have the adaptive headlights... Can you still do halos?

hep100
10-30-13, 01:52 AM
PM Sent

TheDarkKnight
10-30-13, 03:59 PM
Responded to PM
For those of you interested, please feel free to shoot me PMs, i am back after a small hiatus.

Thanks in advance for your business

Envy
01-25-14, 08:01 PM
We are now offering CORES for those of you who can't have downtime! First opening is for the week of 3/17. First deposit holds reservation. PM,email michaelgbemis@gmail.com,or call 267 885 4114 to secure your spot!

Are you still doing with mod with core deposit?

TheDarkKnight
01-26-14, 01:20 PM
Yes we do.
Feel free to call me 267 885 4114

rayjoedef
01-27-14, 09:46 AM
I just had the mod done by Joe @ Bigtundra....came out perfect!! Highly recommend

TheDarkKnight
01-27-14, 04:42 PM
Another satisfied customer, glad we could hook you up!

daign
01-30-14, 10:26 PM
looks great, The halos can stick to the pep boys accessory aisle in my opinion though. This car doesn't need them/the bling

TheDarkKnight
01-30-14, 10:36 PM
Yeah, I wouldn't do them on y personal car, but to each his own.

Envy
02-03-14, 10:31 PM
Any pics of them installed on the car? Preferably a black V coupe. Thanks.