: XTS Auto Folding Side Mirrors



pkadanec
01-07-13, 05:29 PM
Does anyone know how to actually make the side mirrors fold automatically? I have the option enabled, however enabled or disabled does not seem to make any difference.

Dramset
01-07-13, 07:57 PM
Where is the option enabled? As far as I know, the XTS doesn't have power folding mirrors...at least not in the U.S.

wrtxts
01-07-13, 09:36 PM
My Platinum doesn't have folding mirrors. But, it does have reverse tilting mirrors, which I had to disable because the passenger side gets stuck when tilting down and doesn't return to the normal position consistently when shifting to drive. I will have the problem looked at when something more substantial needs fixed as well.

pkadanec
01-08-13, 10:33 AM
In the settings, vehicle settings, comfort and convenience ,auto mirror folding, choose auto mirror folding on or off. Let me know if you can figure out how to actually get this to work I.E. how to get the mirrors to auto fold. Attaching photos of menu choices.
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pkadanec
01-08-13, 10:35 AM
In the settings, vehicle settings, comfort and convenience ,auto mirror folding, choose auto mirror folding on or off. Let me know if you can figure out how to actually get this to work I.E. how to get the mirrors to auto fold. Attaching photos of menu choices.
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Cadjiek
01-08-13, 04:29 PM
That's interesting! What trim level is your XTS? I have the Luxury trim and my screen stops at the reverse tilt mirror option.

pkadanec
01-08-13, 05:08 PM
I have the Premium edition...

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Regardless, it does not seem to work as designed....

marathonman89
01-08-13, 05:30 PM
Hmmm, just checked out my XTS Premium in the driveway after reading this thread. My vehicle settings menu options stop with "Reverse Tilt Mirror." There is no "Auto Folding Mirror" option on my ride.
I took delivery on 7/10/13, perhaps cars having the Auto Folding Mirror option (whether or not it actually works) are later builds?

Happy New Year

Pete

Cadjiek
01-08-13, 05:32 PM
According to the owners manual section 2-19, move the left right switch selector to the middle position and press the down arrow. Press the down arrow again to unfold the mirrors. Is that what you have been doing?

pkadanec
01-08-13, 06:13 PM
Ha! Yes, that was the first thing I tried. I have had several Cadillac's (CTS and 2 SRX's) and they both work in that manner. Not this baby...

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Mine was purchased in December.

cblove
01-08-13, 07:11 PM
Hmmm, just checked out my XTS Premium in the driveway after reading this thread. My vehicle settings menu options stop with "Reverse Tilt Mirror." There is no "Auto Folding Mirror" option on my ride.
I took delivery on 7/10/13, perhaps cars having the Auto Folding Mirror option (whether or not it actually works) are later builds?

Happy New Year

Pete

How the heck did you take delivery 7/10/13? Lol

Seriously though, mine stops at reverse mirror tilt as well. Build date 8/12 plat edition.

I checked the window sticker and it states "power dual outside mirrors adjustable, w/auto dimming.
It states nothing about folding and the sequence described in manual does nothing for my car either.

Did you get a software upgrade by chance and that is why it shows in your cue?

Cadjiek
01-08-13, 07:54 PM
Now there's a guy you know is putting the correct year on his checks!! LOL!!

marathonman89
01-08-13, 09:06 PM
Oops, my bad. Meant 7/10/12.

pkadanec
01-09-13, 10:37 AM
No update to my knowledge, but you never know.

kimbo1
01-09-13, 04:19 PM
I have also had this issue. It appears the mirror housing was not designed to have sufficient clearance for the mirror to rotate to the limits the motor allows. The mirror is oversized for the housing.

pkadanec
01-14-13, 09:46 AM
I just validated on my sister's new 2013 XTS (delivery date was about 5 weeks later than mine) and this menu option is not available. Would anyone from Cadillac be able to comment?

Dramset
01-14-13, 12:24 PM
I don't imagine there's much to say. The 2013 XTS absolutely, positively does not have power folding mirrors, period.

Since some people see this feature in the CUE menus, I imagine that it was planned originally but for whatever reason didn't make it into production models. Presumably updates to CUE removed this option.

pkadanec
01-14-13, 12:31 PM
Yes, i suspected as much.

Engelman
01-23-13, 02:00 AM
When this information was added to the catalogue/owners manual Cadillac fully intended to have electric folding mirrors on the XTS. However, it never became a reality for several reasons, some mentioned here...




According to the owners manual section 2-19, move the left right switch selector to the middle position and press the down arrow. Press the down arrow again to unfold the mirrors. Is that what you have been doing?

jock82
01-23-13, 08:32 AM
Another reason for me to love my DTS that much more.

Sweetness
03-04-13, 01:49 PM
Another reason for me to love my DTS that much more.

Yea, missing power folding mirrors, massage seat and auto dimming headlights that were on the DTS. But it's still a hell of a car.

pkadanec
03-11-13, 05:48 PM
Post QUE update, option is now gone... :(

DTS man33
03-13-13, 12:09 AM
I find it funny how everyone is now noticing these omissions on the XTS just now. I was asking about why these options were not available back even before the XTS hit the lots. I think they are just saving those for the real flagship that's on its way. I can see the power folding mirrors not being a super popular option but there is no excuse at all for this car not having auto dimming headlights when this option is available on cars much much cheaper. I would tell you to ask Cadillac Customer Service, however you can not expect an intelligent response from anyone in that department so it would be just a waste of time.

pkadanec
03-13-13, 10:07 AM
DTS Man, I have been told that, in fact, these options were on the pre-production models, hence why they are available options in the user manual, but were pulled from the production models for reasons unknown to us. Someone keeps referring to the XTS not being the flagship model of the Cadillac line. I do not think that is correct. If it is, that is not how it is being sold, nor marketed by the dealerships. I talk quite a bit with the folks at the dealer and what i have been told is that the Cadillac model line up is structured to directly compete with the BMW model line up. 3 series = ATS, 5 series = CTS, and 7 series = XTS. If that is the case, then I think the XTS is, in fact the "flagship" line from Cadillac. Of course, if you have any additional information to share, i would be very interested in what you have. Again, this is all second hand info, and i do not speak for Cadillac, just sharing what i have heard.

DTS man33
03-13-13, 04:13 PM
DTS Man, I have been told that, in fact, these options were on the pre-production models, hence why they are available options in the user manual, but were pulled from the production models for reasons unknown to us. Someone keeps referring to the XTS not being the flagship model of the Cadillac line. I do not think that is correct. If it is, that is not how it is being sold, nor marketed by the dealerships. I talk quite a bit with the folks at the dealer and what i have been told is that the Cadillac model line up is structured to directly compete with the BMW model line up. 3 series = ATS, 5 series = CTS, and 7 series = XTS. If that is the case, then I think the XTS is, in fact the "flagship" line from Cadillac. Of course, if you have any additional information to share, i would be very interested in what you have. Again, this is all second hand info, and i do not speak for Cadillac, just sharing what i have heard.

The XTS is just a stop-gap for the real flagship that will be out in a few years. While all of this is just speculation and I do not speak for Cadillac either. GM has said many times that there is a bigger better more elegant car in the works. It will be based on a new large platform called the OMEGA which is RWD/AWD based and may have a V8. The XTS sole purpose is to take over for the DTS and also keep the livery companies who make limo's and funeral cars happy. Also the XTS was a easy and fast car to make since the platform was already available. Very few people will agree that the XTS can even slightly compare to a 7-series however it was not meant to either. Back in 2007-08 the XTS was to be the big RWD flagship sedan but when GM fell on hard times that hole idea was canned and the XTS got toned down. I have no doubt at this point that we will see a big flagship that is bigger and better then the XTS but I do not see the new car replacing the XTS as many have said would happen, it will just supplement it and be above it.

nguyennhatquang
03-15-13, 01:11 AM
7 series = XTS.

XTS was build to complete with Audi A6 and MB E-class..you can see that in Cadillac website.

http://www.cadillac.com/tools/comparator/compareVehicle.do?pvc=152&snType=model&year=2013


original video from Cadillac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n3jnYPnAkU

it make me thing about
1st the seller in dealer is an IDIOT to say that.
2nd they try to riff customer off.

XTS full option is about 63 to 65K...base 7 series or S-Class start at 90k...
it even not touch it.

TulsaVic
03-15-13, 10:28 AM
My 5 year old DTS has the power folding mirrors. Never used them. So are y'all mad because it was suppose to be there or because it's an essential part of the car??

cblove
03-17-13, 12:09 AM
Same here with the escalade folding mirrors. I never use the feature.

jeffpaletz
03-17-13, 01:51 AM
Yes, we are fortunate enought to be able to buy this amazing car and people are complaining that it doesn't have folding mirrors. I also see that as a useless feature. My wife's SRX has that feature and we never use it. She forgot it has it.

sredmyer
03-17-13, 12:22 PM
My 5 year old DTS has the power folding mirrors. Never used them. So are y'all mad because it was suppose to be there or because it's an essential part of the car??


Same here with the escalade folding mirrors. I never use the feature.


Yes, we are fortunate enought to be able to buy this amazing car and people are complaining that it doesn't have folding mirrors. I also see that as a useless feature. My wife's SRX has that feature and we never use it. She forgot it has it.

I obviously can't speak for anyone else but I did not buy this car for its "essential" features.

Steve

ogbuehi
03-17-13, 01:38 PM
I use mine on my DTS everytime I take it to the car wash as per their instructions. Plus I'll probably use them when I put the car into storage. Nice feature to have in my opinion.

Sweetness
03-17-13, 02:38 PM
I use mine on my DTS everytime I take it to the car wash as per their instructions. Plus I'll probably use them when I put the car into storage. Nice feature to have in my opinion.

I miss the folding mirrors a lot, as I had to switch garage stalls with my wife since the XTS doesn't fit in my stall with the mirrors out.

kipsts
03-17-13, 06:41 PM
While certainly not as convenient as electronically folding the mirrors, both easily fold in manually. :cool2:

GTPprix
03-21-13, 02:57 PM
Not to dredge this up but what happened was your MSM module was programmed with the wrong calibration to show the export option for the folding mirrors. The Export versions do have them the RPO is DX1. I could probably retrofit them if people really wanted it but retail on the mirrors is $700 ish a each.

pkadanec
03-22-13, 11:50 AM
I apologize for my ignorance on your acronyms. Are you saying that this COULD be an option if desired post-delivery of the vehicle?

GTPprix
03-22-13, 12:10 PM
Sorry :) I apologize for the car electronics geek speak! MSM is memory seat module which controls the mirrors actually. If the MSM is programmed (IE during a bulletin) and the incorrect option was chosen that option (which is for export only) would show up on the infotainment. I can turn this on and off (and a bunch of other things) but unfortunately without the hardware in the mirrors as you stated it wont do anything :(

pkadanec
03-22-13, 12:13 PM
So I guess the $100,000 question is... can the hardware be installed?

GTPprix
03-22-13, 12:18 PM
Sure, mirrors are $700 each plus paint and I can do the programming.

pkadanec
03-22-13, 05:05 PM
Thanks, I wish I lived near you!

EChas3
03-23-13, 09:17 PM
A member over on the STS forum added them. It seems far too expensive to me but if it's worth around $1,500 to you, have at it!

dannyquest
04-01-13, 11:29 PM
Why does the KIA Soul have folding mirrors & nav unit and its only $14k-19k, new. Some time I think Cadillac is behind the eight ball. Danny

fmatiyat
04-04-13, 12:58 PM
I live in the Gulf region, and mine is a XTS4 Platinum, got it last week (March 28th).
I can see auto-fold mirrors, it is checked on, but the mirrors do not autofold!
Production date on my car is September 2012.

kipsts
04-04-13, 07:09 PM
I live in the Gulf region, and mine is a XTS4 Platinum, got it last week (March 28th).
I can see auto-fold mirrors, it is checked on, but the mirrors do not autofold!
Production date on my car is September 2012. @fmativat: from my understanding, the folding mirrors were not part of any XTS produced here. On you next CUE update that option will disappear. The only 'autofold' one can do (unless you want to spend c.$1500 to have motors put in each mirror) is to stick your hand out the window and pull the mirror in- easy to do on the driver side, not so easy on the passenger side (unless of course you have a passenger). :cool2:

fmatiyat
04-04-13, 07:32 PM
I think two concepts are being confused here: folding mirrors, and auto-fold function.
My XTS4 Platinume DOES in fact have an electric folding mirror; you just put the mirror selector on the middle (the button that chooses either right or left mirror), then press the mirror deflector button to the down direction (a hollow triangle pointing down, as opposed to the solid triangles that point in the other 3 directions)... Give that a try..
Now the auto-fold option that I am talking about is a feature that the mirrors will automatically fold when you turn the car off... That does not seem to work..
My car manufacturing date is September 2012, so I have a strong guess that my software is rather newer..

kipsts
04-04-13, 07:45 PM
I think two concepts are being confused here: folding mirrors, and auto-fold function.
My XTS4 Platinume DOES in fact have an electric folding mirror; you just put the mirror selector on the middle (the button that chooses either right or left mirror), then press the mirror deflector button to the down direction (a hollow triangle pointing down, as opposed to the solid triangles that point in the other 3 directions)... Give that a try..
Now the auto-fold option that I am talking about is a feature that the mirrors will automatically fold when you turn the car off... That does not seem to work..
My car manufacturing date is September 2012, so I have a strong guess that my software is rather newer.. SilverFox, a fully loaded Platinum, does not have folding mirrors. All triangles on the joint mirror control switch are identical and putting it in the center of the rocker and then pushing towards the down arrow does nothing. Perhaps it was a feature on the 4 but it is not on the fwd version. As to the recency of the software, if you scan the CUE threads here you will see that almost everyone regardless of manufacture date is getting CUE updates this month, the primary difference is that on the early production models like SilverFox, you not only get the software update you get a new CUE component. :cool2:

fmatiyat
04-04-13, 08:06 PM
The components that I have are:
- Audio
- Climate Control Front
- Climate Control Rear
- Phone
- Navigation
Anything new additional to those?

fmatiyat
04-04-13, 08:06 PM
The components that I have are:
- Audio
- Climate Control Front
- Climate Control Rear
- Phone
- Navigation
- Settings
Anything new additional to those?

kipsts
04-04-13, 08:14 PM
The components that I have are:
- Audio
- Climate Control Front
- Climate Control Rear
- Phone
- Navigation
Anything new additional to those? Most of us who have had one or more updates to the CUE have experienced improved hepatic recognition and accuracy, more accurate and at times more speedy software responsiveness, a few new icons and some increase in street name appearance on the navigation system. Re audio, again if you review related posts, a number of us experienced sudden increases in audio and phone volume that you could not reverse and all of these issues were resolved via the software upgrades and CUE component replacement. :cool2:

fmatiyat
04-04-13, 08:21 PM
I believe this relates to geographic distribution.. XTS was introduced only in Jan this year, here in the GCC region (I live in Dubai)..
The software version is slightly different from the US Specs.. Navigation is perfectly detailed, and audio is superb.
The only two options that we do not have here are the adaptive cruise control and the auto-brake.
Also, voice commands are not working, but I was told that this is pending a software update that would cater for the localization languages.

kipsts
04-04-13, 08:24 PM
That makes sense, since electronically folding mirrors are more common and available outside of the United States. :cool2:

GTPprix
04-05-13, 12:29 PM
I live in the Gulf region, and mine is a XTS4 Platinum, got it last week (March 28th).
I can see auto-fold mirrors, it is checked on, but the mirrors do not autofold!
Production date on my car is September 2012.

I'm going to send you a PM I think you can help me (and I may be able to help you!) :)