: CUE Question



ArubaKid
01-01-13, 12:44 PM
One of the training videos says that there can be up to 5 pages of apps on the center stack screen and up to 8 apps per page. What app icons can be placed there and where do they come from?

On an iPad you can acquire apps from the apps store, but where do you get them for the center stack display on the XTS?

Runch Machine
01-05-13, 08:48 PM
This was answered in another thread by a Cadillac rep. The answer is that there are no apps yet but there will be. They did not say how they would be loaded.

Lifer
01-09-13, 04:42 PM
Just more distractions. Five pages of apps - how long are you going to take your eyes off the road to look? Eight apps per page - how long will it take you to pin-point what you want and press it - all the while move forward at speeds fast enough to surprise you when you finally focus on the road again.

I have Microsoft Windows 8 on a 17" screen computer and all those tiles associated with apps and programs drive me crazy trying to find the right one. But I am in an office flying my desk at no miles per hour.

Frankly, I think the CUE and some other enter screen appliances are going to cause more accidents than ever. Anytime you have to look away from the road, especially looking to the right or left, not just down at the speedometer, it throws your awareness off center and your frame of reference in a skew.

Try this. Go at a steady highway speed and hold the steering wheel. Now when everything is lined up, and you are correct on the road, look at the center stack, about the height of the nav or CUE screen. Do this for 15 - 20 seconds. don't look at the road, just the concentration point. I guarantee you will unconsciously put pressure on the steering wheel and you will drift, requiring that you have to correct your path. If it is slight this time, imaging how bad it would be after really focusing on the CUE screen looking for one of 40 apps.

r34220
01-09-13, 07:18 PM
Just more distractions. Five pages of apps - how long are you going to take your eyes off the road to look? Eight apps per page - how long will it take you to pin-point what you want and press it - all the while move forward at speeds fast enough to surprise you when you finally focus on the rod again.

I have Microsoft Windows 8 on a 17" screen computer and all those tiles associated with apps and programs drive me crazy trying to find the right one. But I am in an office flying my desk at no miles per hour.

Frankly, I think the CUE and some other enter screen appliances are going to cause more accidents than ever. Anytime you have to look away from the road, especially looking to the right or left, not just down at the speedometer, it throws your awareness off center and and your frame of reference in a skew.

Try this. Go at a steady highway speed and hold the steering wheel. Now when everything is lined up, and you are correct on the road, look at the center stack, about the height of the nav or CUE screen. Do this for 15 - 20 seconds. don't look at the road, just the concentration point. I guarantee you will put pressure on the steering wheel and you will drift, requiring that you have to correct your path. If it is slight this time, imaging how bad it would be after really focusing on the CUE screen looking for one of 40 apps.



That is why there is a Driver Assist Package :histeric:

Lifer
01-10-13, 09:00 PM
That is why there is a Driver Assist Package :histeric:

:ill:

rayle
01-10-13, 09:49 PM
Just more distractions. . . . Frankly, I think the CUE and some other enter screen appliances are going to cause more accidents than ever.
I agree 100% to your well worded post, Lifer, and even though I've owned many Cadillacs over a period of many years, I will not buy a vehicle with this type of system -- not because I cannot operate it, but rather because I do not respect it. Next vehicle will be purchased within the month, and it will not be a Cadillac for the first time in 25 years.

If anyone has ever known someone who has been killed by someone who thought they could text and drive (same as multiple swiping on a CUE screen while driving), and where that texting driver only got 45 days in jail, then maybe they would understand . . . or maybe not.

TulsaVic
01-12-13, 11:32 AM
I agree 100% to your well worded post, Lifer, and even though I've owned many Cadillacs over a period of many years, I will not buy a vehicle with this type of system -- not because I cannot operate it, but rather because I do not respect it. Next vehicle will be purchased within the month, and it will not be a Cadillac for the first time in 25 years.

If anyone has ever known someone who has been killed by someone who thought they could text and drive (same as multiple swiping on a CUE screen while driving), and where that texting driver only got 45 days in jail, then maybe they would understand . . . or maybe not.



Anyone remember the 1987 series Riviera with the digital dash and center info display? Almost drove into a tree with that one while changing the climate control setting, and it was many times simplier than CUE. What makes me chuckle is how today's car reviews marvel at all these video game display dashes. When the Riviera dash came out the car reviews called it distracting and a gimmick. But back then you also talked to people instead of sending them a text message.....

Dramset
01-12-13, 02:07 PM
At 56, I sometimes worry if I'm turning into an Old Fart. However, it's clear from the posts here that I'm not even within sight of that yet.

This isn't your car. If you're not willing to put the rather minimal time and effort into learning how to use CUE safely and effectively (hint: you can do almost anything with voice commands without taking your eyes off the road), then pick up your shawl and walker and shuffle off somewhere else.

TulsaVic
01-13-13, 10:22 AM
At 56, I sometimes worry if I'm turning into an Old Fart. However, it's clear from the posts here that I'm not even within sight of that yet.

This isn't your car. If you're not willing to put the rather minimal time and effort into learning how to use CUE safely and effectively (hint: you can do almost anything with voice commands without taking your eyes off the road), then pick up your shawl and walker and shuffle off somewhere else.


Now, now, now. We do thank you for declaring who can express an opinion on this forum and who can't..... You related to BigShmo??

For the Masters of the Universe who walk around with their iPad, iPhone, Blackberry in their pockets and iTunes plugged into their ears, CUE may be a wonderful addition. And all the interconnect possibilities I'm sure are so exciting they make your toes curl. But it is a bit of a video game/toy and certainly doesn't make the car better handling, smoother riding, or improve performance. Personally I would have preferred that Cadillac gave us a V8 (less of a Buick, more of a Cadillac drivetrain) and included the auto-headlight dimming, Rain-sense wipers, trunk pulldown among other things and left me with a few buttons.

Dramset
01-13-13, 06:55 PM
Now, now, now. We do thank you for declaring who can express an opinion on this forum and who can't..... You related to BigShmo??

Why, I never said he couldn't express an opinion; I was merely noting that from my point of view it was a stupid opinion.

When someone says he "Doesn't respect" the car and will never buy another, that's a pretty extreme position, don't you think? Sure, CUE and systems like it are quite different from what most of us grew up with, and their plethora of features and functions can be intimidating, especially if you're trying to figure it out while you're driving.

Distracted driving is nothing new. 50 years ago, people routinely crashed their cars adjusting the radio or opening a vent window. If you're buying a car with an elaborate set of in-vehicle navigation and electronic functions, the obvious thing to do is to spend some quality time getting to know the system while the car's sitting in your driveway.

A little judgement goes a long way, and those willing to invest a little time in learning to operate the features of their new car safely will reap the benefits.

cblove
01-13-13, 09:05 PM
Why, I never said he couldn't express an opinion; I was merely noting that from my point of view it was a stupid opinion.

When someone says he "Doesn't respect" the car and will never buy another, that's a pretty extreme position, don't you think? Sure, CUE and systems like it are quite different from what most of us grew up with, and their plethora of features and functions can be intimidating, especially if you're trying to figure it out while you're driving.

Distracted driving is nothing new. 50 years ago, people routinely crashed their cars adjusting the radio or opening a vent window. If you're buying a car with an elaborate set of in-vehicle navigation and electronic functions, the obvious thing to do is to spend some quality time getting to know the system while the car's sitting in your driveway.

A little judgement goes a long way, and those willing to invest a little time in learning to operate the features of their new car safely will reap the benefits.

Agree^^^

I love the cue and have no problem operating it while driving. For those of you who cannot chew gum and walk at the same time, it may not be for you.

thebigjimsho
01-14-13, 08:02 PM
Agree^^^

I love the cue and have no problem operating it while driving. For those of you who cannot chew gum and walk at the same time, it may not be for you.

lulz.

BigShmo approves...

gohawks63
01-15-13, 06:06 PM
Why, I never said he couldn't express an opinion; I was merely noting that from my point of view it was a stupid opinion.

When someone says he "Doesn't respect" the car and will never buy another, that's a pretty extreme position, don't you think? Sure, CUE and systems like it are quite different from what most of us grew up with, and their plethora of features and functions can be intimidating, especially if you're trying to figure it out while you're driving.

Distracted driving is nothing new. 50 years ago, people routinely crashed their cars adjusting the radio or opening a vent window. If you're buying a car with an elaborate set of in-vehicle navigation and electronic functions, the obvious thing to do is to spend some quality time getting to know the system while the car's sitting in your driveway.

A little judgement goes a long way, and those willing to invest a little time in learning to operate the features of their new car safely will reap the benefits.

I too agree. While I haven't played with CUE, I have driven cars with infotainment systems and the key is whether they have good voice recognition.

In my last Acura and in my CTS I use(d) the VR almost exclusively. What is even better with CUE is that you don't have to remember specific phrases and just use natural speech.

Lifer
01-16-13, 04:08 PM
Having a distraction in your car is not quite the same as chewing gum and walking down the street (also known as double tasking, like doing your homework while watching TV and playing the record player real loud, all at the same time...). Just as it is totally unsafe to text while driving or watch a movie on the nav screen if you are driving, it is totally unsafe to hunt for something below the sight line of the road and then to the right of the driver. Even looking at the map on the nav screen is a distraction. We are not talking about Captain Ultra-cool, the driver. We are talking about the average driver, at any age, who needs to know what is front of the vehicle at any speed above zero. Don't look down in your lap for that bite of food that slipped. Don't look up and admire the view through the sun roof. Don't watch the radio while you change stations, or adjust the AC (I love ergonomic buttons that can be felt for identification). Don't reach around into the back seat to grab the dog or a noisy child. Don't search the glove box for a lost item (notice that this receptacle is always on the right side of the car - away from the driver).

Aircraft pilots are taught (and I taught this as an instructor) to learn the layout of every switch, lever, and fuse in the cockpit and learn the touch-feel so that when you are busy concentrating on really dumb things like take off and landing, you can adjust what is required without looking away from the area of supreme interest - that what is in front of you. Later, when at altitude, in a cruise mode, and either the auto-pilot is on or you are trimmed up real tight, then look up things. But not until.

In summary, I realize we are in the technology consumption mode and automobiles and airplanes are going to have some really neat gadgets in the very near future. But just also understand their shortcomings. And your shortcomings.

TulsaVic
01-16-13, 04:19 PM
I think the problem here is the critics assume that if you're commenting negatively about the car and they don't see anything wrong, then obviously you must be commenting about their judgement as well. Why else would you label someone else's opinion as "stupid". It's different. And perhaps what they look for in a car is a bit different than what someone else is looking for. But calling his opinion "stupid" is, well, stupid. After all, we're not talking about Obama supporters.....

cblove
01-16-13, 05:42 PM
My neighbor drives and applies makeup at the same time. When you have people doing that It won't
matter if they have cue or not. Let's just say people need to be careful and exercise caution while driving
and operating cue. That much we can agree on? Yes?

Cadjiek
01-16-13, 05:54 PM
I remember record players! I had an under the dash unit in my 1960 Impala. I could stack a load of 45's and keep my eyes on the road at the same time.
I guess you could say I was ahead of my time and preparing for CUE!! LOL

gohawks63
01-16-13, 06:01 PM
I remember record players! I had an under the dash unit in my 1960 Impala. I could stack a load of 45's and keep my eyes on the road at the same time.
I guess you could say I was ahead of my time and preparing for CUE!! LOL

That was the original 6 disc changer.

Dramset
01-20-13, 07:11 PM
I think the problem here is the critics assume that if you're commenting negatively about the car and they don't see anything wrong, then obviously you must be commenting about their judgement as well. Why else would you label someone else's opinion as "stupid". It's different. And perhaps what they look for in a car is a bit different than what someone else is looking for. But calling his opinion "stupid" is, well, stupid. After all, we're not talking about Obama supporters.....

I labelled his opinion as "stupid" because although he seems to have never actually used CUE, he stated that he doesn't respect cars with systems like these and will never buy one.

It's stupid on a couple of levels: one, he should have tried CUE before pronouncing judgement on it so emphatically. Two, his choice is cars is gonna get real limited in the very near future.

Now, all this said, it could well be that rayle is a person of erudite wit; a well-educated, broadly experienced and capable fellow who's a pleasure to know. At the very least his grammar and spelling are good. This does not preclude his having stupid opinions.

And besides, he could be an Obama supporter. You never know. Some of them look frighteningly human.

CAPT Mike
01-20-13, 09:56 PM
Gentlemen: Cyber sparring is limited to those forums catering to a different crowd. I'd say more but my tongue is caught up in my cheek.:rolleyes:

rayle
01-21-13, 11:25 AM
:pop2:

GEORGEC
01-24-13, 07:32 PM
At 56, I sometimes worry if I'm turning into an Old Fart. However, it's clear from the posts here that I'm not even within sight of that yet.

This isn't your car. If you're not willing to put the rather minimal time and effort into learning how to use CUE safely and effectively (hint: you can do almost anything with voice commands without taking your eyes off the road), then pick up your shawl and walker and shuffle off somewhere else.


Can you expand on this comment. It is also a worry I have had as I look at the XTS. Is the voice command system similar to what I now find on a GPS? I find the GPS rather easy to command.

I have a much more expanded/involved chart plotter system on my boat and it is not voice commanded.

George

Pjazz
01-31-13, 01:14 AM
I've had navigation in my last 4 cars. It's amusing to me how people can feel having touch screens without knobs is so unacceptable While we seem to be moving that way with the I pad and pc touch screens. Also I guess I,m stupid for voting for Obama along with the majority of the country.

TulsaVic
01-31-13, 09:46 AM
I've had navigation in my last 4 cars. It's amusing to me how people can feel having touch screens without knobs is so unacceptable While we seem to be moving that way with the I pad and pc touch screens. Also I guess I,m stupid for voting for Obama along with the majority of the country.

Not necessarily unacceptable. The question is why is it there? First of all, I'm not driving down the highway in bumper to bumper traffic at 65mph when I'm using my pc. I can work the audio system on my car with a quick glance. Don't think you can do that with a touch screen, if only because your aim has to be a bit more accurate. And I don't see how a touch screen improves the quality of the climate control or the audio system or the GPS. It's really just an appearance change. Don't think I've read any auto mag review that claims the all-in-one "screen" controls on any automobile (Ford, BMW, etc.) is a wonderful improvement.

As for the majority. The majority doesn't necessarily mean smart. Think of the Chavez victory in Venezuela . Think the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Believe Putin won by a majority. Didn't Hitler come to power by "a majority"?

rustybear3
01-31-13, 12:47 PM
Not necessarily unacceptable. The question is why is it there? First of all, I'm not driving down the highway in bumper to bumper traffic at 65mph when I'm using my pc. I can work the audio system on my car with a quick glance. Don't think you can do that with a touch screen, if only because your aim has to be a bit more accurate. And I don't see how a touch screen improves the quality of the climate control or the audio system or the GPS. It's really just an appearance change. Don't think I've read any auto mag review that claims the all-in-one "screen" controls on any automobile (Ford, BMW, etc.) is a wonderful improvement.

As for the majority. The majority doesn't necessarily mean smart. Think of the Chavez victory in Venezuela . Think the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Believe Putin won by a majority. Didn't Hitler come to power by "a majority"?

Just like those dumb bell majority voters who put Reagan and Bush in office....no accounting for lack of smarts or taste; for myself I find the CUE system easier , faster, and less obtrusive to use than the old clunky software and knobs and levers of past Cadillacs...after all, it is the 21st century...and I'm 61 years old!

The Tony Show
01-31-13, 01:36 PM
No political conversation allowed, folks. Sorry, but let's keep it about cars. :)

thebigjimsho
02-09-13, 12:17 AM
wut.