: 1975 Sedan DeVille General Questions



shwhitley
12-19-12, 11:24 AM
I am purchasing a 1975 Cadillac Sedan DeVille. It's a great car, strong engine, etc. But since I've never had one of these, I have a couple of general questions.

1. It needs new tires. I remember when I owned a 93 Cadillac and when my Mom owned Lincolns, they both had auto leveling systems that needed to be shut off when the car was put up on a lift or jacked up. Does the 1975 have auto leveling and is there a switch to turn it off when I replace the tires?

2. Of course the vinyl top needs replacing. Can a body shop do that, or does an upholstery shop have to do that?

3. It has a bench seat and doesn't have auto headlights...it doesn't say Calais on it anywhere, but is this a Calais model?

Thanks in advance!

CADforce69
12-19-12, 12:34 PM
Auto level control was standard only on Fleetwoods for that year but was an option for the rest. You can check if that unit is equipped with that feature by looking if there is a bottle with a compressor attached in the driver side of the engine compartment (near the passenger compartment). In most cadillacs of that age equipped so it does not work.

First of all you need taking out the vinyl and see if the roof needs to be "cured" from rusted or rotten spots. In that case it should be repaired first by a body shop. Maybe this same shop is willing to do the new vinyl but it depends on the experience they have on this issue. Possibly you must take the car to an upholsterer to do the vinyl when the body work is done. There is a possibility that the roof just needs a sanding and a priming. In this case maybe you can do it by yourself to save some money or the upholsterer may do it for some additional cost if you do not feel prepared or have no suitable place to do it.

There should be some badge saying Calais, Fleetwood or De Ville in some place of the car. If they are missing you can check the Body Number plate, which is located under the hood on the cowl, near the top. Check this web to translate codes: http://automotivemileposts.com/cadillac/prod1975cadi.html

There is a complete information about the features of this model on this web (Production, specs, colors, trim, standard equipment, options...): http://automotivemileposts.com/cadillac/cadi1975selections.shtml

shwhitley
12-19-12, 01:39 PM
Great thank you for that info! The paint is a faded Green, the hard top a dark green. I'm hoping a good buffing will shine the paint up some. Supposedly the car was in a garage for many years and the interior is a perfect green/yellow stripe

Corey468
12-19-12, 07:28 PM
You can look at the interior doors to see if it's a Calais or a Deville. The Calais didn't have the courtesy lights in the bottom of the door, and instead had 2 red reflectors. Also, the door-pulls were straps, rather then the plastic-hinged types that the Devilles had.

Here's a Calais Door.
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6188/6038016172_8379d4599a_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/that_chrysler_guy/6038016172/)
1975 Cadillac Calais sedan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/that_chrysler_guy/6038016172/) by That Hartford Guy (http://www.flickr.com/people/that_chrysler_guy/), on Flickr


Sedan Deville: (Note Courtesy lights, and different door pulls)

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5130/5287880758_5f4decfaa8_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/that_chrysler_guy/5287880758/)
1975 Cadillac Sedan Deville (http://www.flickr.com/photos/that_chrysler_guy/5287880758/) by That Hartford Guy (http://www.flickr.com/people/that_chrysler_guy/), on Flickr

talismandave
12-19-12, 09:01 PM
Damn those are some cool old interiors!

shwhitley welcome to the forum. Get some pics up of the new Cadillac, I love the big old ones!

shwhitley
12-19-12, 09:15 PM
here you go..101391
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talismandave
12-19-12, 10:01 PM
Great looking old girl you got there. Can't wait to see her buffed out.:thumbsup:

shwhitley
12-19-12, 11:37 PM
yeah, I was wondering if a professional buff wax would shine it up

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mine is definitely not a Calais. I love that brocade material!

talismandave
12-19-12, 11:44 PM
Me too, Hated them in the day, but now they are just a wonderful time capsule of when auto makers would make cars with personality and cater to the individual. Now days everything is dumbed down so as not to offend anybody. When I heard talk of a book called "Fifty Shades of Gray", I thought it was about auto color choices!

carnut
12-20-12, 03:29 AM
If your car has level ride, you dont have to turn anything off. Cadillac used an air bag around the outside of the rear shocks to extend them when inflated, a Lincoln used air bags instead of rear coil springs and had to be disabled.

shwhitley
12-20-12, 11:58 AM
Thanks, carnut! another reason why Cadillacs are the gold standard of luxury cars...

DouglasJRizzo
12-20-12, 12:47 PM
Automatic level control was optional for Calais/DeVille standard on Fleetwood Brougham, Series 75, Eldorado, and Seville. It was frequently ordered on DeVille/Calais. Look in the engine compartment for a small compressor like device, usually on the fender well or firewall. If there, the car has auto level.

The auto lights were optional on all models at that time. Both the Twilight Sentinel and the Guidematic, were optional - you could order either, or both together, which was frequently done.

If there is no script on the rear quarters, is there a script on the instrument panel? It should say "somewhere" what it is. The VIN also gives a clue, I believe it's the 2nd digit - should indicate model.

Your car is Lido green with a green "Metamora Plaid" interior - an optional fabric. The wreath and crest hood ornament was optional as well.

From the picture - it is a DeVille - Calais had Morgan Plaid or Sierra Grain Vinyl. You have hinged door pulls, also indicating DeVille trim.

Corey468
12-20-12, 04:59 PM
The air compressor is on the passenger side, right behind the wheelwell. It has a small presta valvon top. It's the silver module in the picture. If you look closely you can see the valve.

CADforce69
12-20-12, 07:31 PM
^Thanks, it seems this equipment was moved from the left side (hanging on the reinforcement bar) until 1970 at least, to this location for these years.

shwhitley
12-20-12, 07:36 PM
It's a DeVille, I didn't know the Calais would say that in script. I thought Calais was a trim model of the deVille. Glad to know the Lido Green and roof color. One of the things I love about the car is the big hood ornament!

Bro-Ham
12-21-12, 12:21 AM
...The wreath and crest hood ornament was optional as well...

I don't believe the wreath and crest hood ornament was a factory option on deVille in the 70's as you mention, however it was standard on the Fleetwoods, Eldorado, and Seville. Many owners added the wreath and crest to deVille models. As far as I know the only hood ornament fitted at the factory on 1975 deVille models was the see-through standup crest (no wreath) on both deVille d'Elegance and Coupe deVille Cabriolet. The subject of this thread does not appear to have the standard "V" and crest fitted to the front of the body above the grille, and it also does not appear to be a d'Elegance so I would guess someone probably made modifications during the passage of time. :)

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Here are some pictures from the 1975 Cadillac brochure:

http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/cadillac/75ca15.html

http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/cadillac/75ca16.html

And info on the 1975 deVille d'Elegance:

http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/cadillac/75ca22.html

shwhitley
12-21-12, 09:38 AM
the guy i'm buying the car from also had a Fleetwood, so he may have added the hood ornament from the Fleetwood to this car...glad he did!

DouglasJRizzo
12-22-12, 09:21 AM
In the past, dealers would sometimes install Wreath and Crest ornaments to DeVilles and Calais'. Ditto for the see thru ornament on non D'Elegance and non cabriolet DeVilles.

Bro-Ham
12-22-12, 12:02 PM
...The wreath and crest hood ornament was optional as well...


In the past, dealers would sometimes install Wreath and Crest ornaments to DeVilles and Calais'. Ditto for the see thru ornament on non D'Elegance and non cabriolet DeVilles.

We're getting into a pretty loose interpretation of "optional" :)

shwhitley
12-22-12, 02:27 PM
lol well I don't care who put it on there and in what context, but I friggin love it! lol:duck:

I have another question someone may know the answer to. I want to keep the car as original as I can. Any idea if the radios (mine is am/fm with 8track) can be refurbished? When I drove the car the other day, the radio barely played...going to change the speakers first to see if that is the problem, but I absolutely will not cut into the dash board to put in a new aftermarket stereo and would like to pull this one out and have it refurbished if necessary. another option is to somehow put an aftermarket stereo where the ash tray just below the radio is...and I could pull it out when I'm using the stereo...

Bro-Ham
12-22-12, 03:46 PM
Here are a few Delco radio restoration sources I've bookmarked over the years:

http://www.taymanelectrical.com/

http://www.wonderbarman.com/

http://www.doctordons.com/delcoradios.htm

http://www.joesclassiccarradio.com/

google and you may find more.

shwhitley
12-22-12, 08:49 PM
Thank you! I will check them out

Fleet
01-01-13, 06:44 PM
yeah, I was wondering if a professional buff wax would shine it up

My '69 Fleetwood Brougham had a buff job before I bought it. I didn't see what it looked like before but the seller said it made a big difference. And it does have a good shine to it (black paint).

shwhitley
01-02-13, 05:07 PM
My '69 Fleetwood Brougham had a buff job before I bought it. I didn't see what it looked like before but the seller said it made a big difference. And it does have a good shine to it (black paint).

I heard of some stuff called Magic Brite or something like that...has anyone ever used that? if not, what product would you suggest? I have a hand buffer which I will probably need for the 19ft of car I'm about to get

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I've heard of some stuff called Magic Brite...was thinking of using that to buff it out..I have a buffer I can use on this 19ft long car. Any other suggestions for products to buff other than Turtle wax

shwhitley
08-29-13, 12:11 PM
Used dr dons to restore radio. He was great. Very fast service! New roof makes the car look 100% better

Neil Clarke
08-30-13, 07:25 AM
I too love the big hood emblem and have purchased one for mine with corresponding chrome strip for the hood
I recently bought a Heritage of Ownership badge too for the grille... proud Caddy owner here :)

For the radio I've gone with an Autosound unit... looks like a standard analogue when off but when on its an AM/FM digital tuner with a USB (for stored music) port discretely running out the back of the unit and you can even hook up a multi disc driver hidden in the boot if need be
One of these http://www.casmfg.com/Caddy_Olds_Buick_Radios.htm

Classic L
08-30-13, 09:06 AM
You can look at the interior doors to see if it's a Calais or a Deville. The Calais didn't have the courtesy lights in the bottom of the door, and instead had 2 red reflectors. Also, the door-pulls were straps, rather then the plastic-hinged types that the Devilles had.

Here's a Calais Door.
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6188/6038016172_8379d4599a_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/that_chrysler_guy/6038016172/)
1975 Cadillac Calais sedan (http://www.flickr.com/photos/that_chrysler_guy/6038016172/) by That Hartford Guy (http://www.flickr.com/people/that_chrysler_guy/), on Flickr


Sedan Deville: (Note Courtesy lights, and different door pulls)

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5130/5287880758_5f4decfaa8_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/that_chrysler_guy/5287880758/)
1975 Cadillac Sedan Deville (http://www.flickr.com/photos/that_chrysler_guy/5287880758/) by That Hartford Guy (http://www.flickr.com/people/that_chrysler_guy/), on Flickr

Man... I love those Maharaja seats. People may think them gaudy, but for rarity and in the right color, I think they would be nice to have. IMHO