: Omega Bodykits on Catera



nethic
11-25-12, 02:43 PM
Quick question, I recently acquired a catera for a project car, I'm wondering, would the Opel omega body kits fit the catera, or would heavy modification be needed to attach said body kits? Also what transmissions are able to be swapped into the catera also what about converting it to standard from automatic? or to much trouble? I keep seeing GTO this and that but I'd prefer not to build a frankencar, also what engine enhancements can I do ? I got a performance/economy chip for it and cold air intake(soon to be turbo/supercharger when I get a different transmission) Would love to pimp this car out but can't find much direction online about doing so. any help or information or pointers from work people have done in this area i'm asking about would be awesome.


Thanks guys

Ludacrisvp
11-25-12, 04:21 PM
Isn't the catera mostly a 4 dr GTO w/ no power? (no offense intended by the lack of power comment)

nethic
11-25-12, 05:33 PM
No worries, the lack of power doesn't bother me at all, and I'm not sure if its the same body kits as the GTO (tbh there is so many GTO models of various cars that I wouldn't know were to start)
I've been looking at opel omega b body kits for it, but all have to be shipped from EU (poland they seem to be a big hit) if someone could give me the exact model of GTO I can use then I'lll have no problems finding what I need, Just need the yr/model of GTO to grab from.

Thanks for the reply.

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Is this the kind of GTO you are talking about ? (http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9758/frontyard4vc9.jpg)

elvin315
11-25-12, 06:48 PM
Quick question, I recently acquired a catera for a project car, I'm wondering, would the Opel omega body kits fit the catera, or would heavy modification be needed to attach said body kits? Also what transmissions are able to be swapped into the catera also what about converting it to standard from automatic? or to much trouble? I keep seeing GTO this and that but I'd prefer not to build a frankencar, also what engine enhancements can I do ? I got a performance/economy chip for it and cold air intake(soon to be turbo/supercharger when I get a different transmission) Would love to pimp this car out but can't find much direction online about doing so. any help or information or pointers from work people have done in this area i'm asking about would be awesome.

Thanks guys

Cateras and Omegas of coresponding model years are identical except for interiors and front/rear fascias. Omega kits fit Cateras with no problems. GTO/Monero kits do not fit.

The GTO is a Vauxhall/Holden Monaro. The Monaro is based on a Holden Commodore which is based on a widened Vauxhall Omega. While there are similarities a GTO is not a Catera.

Transmissions? It can be done but I don't know of anyone who has here. Lots of fabrication needed to move pedals from right to left sides plus making room on the firewall for the clutch master cylinder and linkage.

Performance chips for th Omega won't work. Our CPUs are different.

Some have started V8 transplants but few have finished them. 3800 V6 transplants too. Search the archives for more answers.

Suspension and brakes are your best for more performance. Read more on our sister site:
http://cateraowners.forumotion.com/t108-catera-suspension-upgrades-part-1
http://cateraowners.forumotion.com/t275-catera-braking-upgrades

nethic
11-25-12, 06:54 PM
Thanks for the information, this makes it allot easier now that I know which kits fit and which don't. as for the transmission, I'll keep searching for information on whats able to be swapped/modified, the performance chip I got is for the catera so not worried about that.

Thanks for the reply, has cleared up some things for me.

MoistCabbage
11-25-12, 08:50 PM
Performance "chips" just alter the signal from the IAT sensor, making the engine run too rich, putting both performance and economy DOWN. Same thing with cold air intakes, with the filter located under the hood. Those are in fact HOT air intakes, and they REDUCE power.

BTW, :welcome:

kaustein
11-26-12, 01:20 PM
Isn't the catera mostly a 4 dr GTO w/ no power? (no offense intended by the lack of power comment)

Your honest. It is under powered or weighs too much. Your choice!

elvin315
11-26-12, 02:54 PM
Here are some Omega accessory vendors. Some pictures too :

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-catera-cimarron-forum/103999-show-us-those-grills.html
http://www.racelook.de/html_english/opel/omegabd.php
http://www.avb-sports.be/opel/omega/1994-2000/bodycomponents/
http://www.lmfvauxhall.co.uk/pdf/Omega_fromMY00_1102_Vaux.pdf
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/carlovincriminals__W0QQ_nkwZomegaQQ_armrsZ1QQ_dmdZ 2QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZQQ_sasiZ1QQ_sopZ1QQ_vcZ1
http://www.courtenaysport.co.uk/index.php?searchStr=omega+b&act=viewCat&Submit=Go
http://www.pbase.com/elvin315/image/73182491
http://www.pbase.com/elvin315/image/83476992
http://www.pbase.com/elvin315/image/96199951
http://www.pbase.com/elvin315/the_catera_v&page=all
http://www.pbase.com/elvin315/the_catera
http://cateraowners.forumotion.com/suspension-f11/catera-suspension-upgrades-part-1-t108.htm

nethic
11-27-12, 01:27 AM
Great links.

Thank you

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The suspension tune up i'm really looking forward to.

nethic
11-27-12, 01:42 PM
Wow just got a email back from Cadillac for inquiring on prices for basic fluids changes and I was blown away by what the lady said

'Oil changes on most Cadillacs ( 6L capacity) using Castrol Synthetic oil starts at $89.95 + tx. If you are looking to replace the transmission fluid, it would not be
synthetic fluid, it would cost 199.95 + tx for transmission service ( includes fluid, filter and labour). We do not have the listing for the capacities on this vehicle-not
much information available due to year of vehicle'


Is it easy for one to change the tranny fluids them selfs ? or is this not wise for a car newbie ( been doing IT Security for so long never had a chance to learn anything about cars lol )

I was also disappointed about Cadillac not knowing the information on this Catera, very disappointing Cadillac (waves fingers)

Jaeger63
11-27-12, 08:51 PM
A dealer actually said that? That's amazing. You'd think they'd want you to be in the habit of going there for when you're ready to upgrade. I'm always amazed that dealers don't seem very interested in winning the service business for their older cars.

Oil changes and basic maintenance are easy for an IT geek to learn. There's a plethora of info, how-to's, youtube tutorials and detailed technical info available for those willing to do a little searching and learning. A basic set of tools is required, of course.

Automatic transmissions are a little more complicated, but a basic fluid and filter change isn't beyond the abilities of a typical shade-tree mechanic.

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A how-to for automatic transmission fluid and filter change is here:
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90664.0

A guide for an oil change is in this thread:
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-catera-cimarron-forum/12323-oil-change-2000-cadillac-catera-sport.html

Since it's a Euro car it's full of Torx fasteners, cartridge filters and some other oddities compared to the usual domestics. But it's nothing to be afraid of.

nethic
11-28-12, 04:15 PM
Great links! Thank you, I brought it into the shop today to get a mechanical done on it so I could get it safetyed and put on the road, found out I need both real coil springs and a few other minor things like lights and etc small stuff easily fixed. Also the mechanic at the shop I was referred to by the guy I purchased the car from didn't want to do any kind of work on it what so ever. little odd I thought but whatever I found a place that will work on it, so I looked online for some rear coils cause the dealership wants 930$ for a pair not including labor and I found them for $50 each at a wrecking yard, funny thing is the guy was like 'oh we just got a pair of those in' with much excitement in his voice (maybe was his first sale of the day) he said he would test them and bus them up to me (overnight be here tomorrow) probably gonna cost me 150-170$ to get them, the place i found to do work on the catera is going to charge me 120-150$ to put them on. any ways the lights for the transmission came on last night and put the car in limp mode I did some google-fu and found that the rear coils could of been the reason why and now since the car was on a lift today and basically stretched the car out ( if that makes any sense) the lights are both off. So I'm hoping the rear coil fix will stop it from doing that again. I'm hoping its not something with the transmission. I spoke to the previous owner and he said the transmission was recently checked and leveled off, so I guess I have to take his word for it.

Priced out some of those body kits, gonna cost around $200 or so shipping from the uk to canada :( but the kit is like 300$ so I'm laughing there. A autobody shop in town here wanted like 1200$ or something for just the front and back bumper no flair or side skirts. :(


But so far I am enjoying the car and its many rich features.

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Also, was the 1998 made in EU or Mexico? I know it isn't from the US.

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And like I said in my previous post, the guy at the dealership in there auto parts department had a hell of a time finding the rear coils I was on hold for around 15 or so minutes, he came back on the line 'those where really buried in there sir' I chuckled then he told me the price, thanks click! thank god for google :)

Jaeger63
11-28-12, 06:36 PM
The car was made in Germany and sold in reasonable quantities as an Opel or Vauxhall Omega in Europe. Since only about 90k were sold over 5 years in North America things like aftermarket springs are a little scarce. Glad you found some.

nethic
11-28-12, 09:01 PM
So it's safe to say, any kind of Opel/Vauxhall Omega esthetics, i.e lights and etc would simply be snap on?

Jaeger63
11-28-12, 10:29 PM
They should, yes. There was a thread somewhere that showed a guy who got a bunch of Omega bits - grill, badges, etc, and put them on his Catera. It really is a rebadged German car with some tuning changes and chassis bracing added. I'm pretty sure all the sheet metal is the same.

Update: Here is the rebadged Catera to Omega:
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-catera-cimarron-forum/118320-rebadged-catera-omega.html

elvin315
11-29-12, 05:02 PM
Front and rear GTO springs will fit though they will lower the Catera by about an inch. As for lights, Omega tail lights are shaped differently and won't "snap in". Catera 97-99 and 00-01 headlights are not interchangeable.

nethic
11-30-12, 05:29 PM
Yeah I noticed that, totally different molds and as for the springs thanks for that info, might save me a buck or two when I got to lower it for the summer

nethic
12-08-12, 04:01 PM
Quick question,

le fit?
Left (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1998-1999-OPEL-Omega-B-Projector-HeadLight-Front-Lamp-LEFT-Driver-side-LH-/320773547889?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4aaf97e771&vxp=mtr&_uhb=1)
Right (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1998-1999-OPEL-Omega-B-Projector-HeadLight-Front-Lamp-RIGHT-Passenger-side-RH-/320773548781?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4aaf97eaed&vxp=mtr&_uhb=1)
Both (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1998-1999-OPEL-Omega-B-Projector-HeadLights-Front-Lamps-PAIR-LEFT-RIGHT-/320773549744?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4aaf97eeb0&vxp=mtr&_uhb=1)
Or Black (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Opel-Omega-B-Design-Headlights-black-/120940661435?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c28a00abb&vxp=mtr&_uhb=1#ht_1101wt_1165)
They look nice , and I want projectors :D

Also halo's look pretty slick to but for 400USD its a bit out of my range
Halos (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Opel-Omega-B-Halo-Rims-Angel-Eyes-Headlights-black-/120930212969?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c28009c69&vxp=mtr&_uhb=1)

And this, this will also fit yes?
Omega Grill (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/94-99-OPEL-Omega-B-Front-Hood-Grill-Central-Grille-/320770147531?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4aaf6404cb&vxp=mtr&_uhb=1#ht_2843wt_1399)

Pega_de
12-10-12, 11:01 AM
that's crazy ^^ . Germans wants a Catera lookin Omega, and Americans wants a Omega style ^^ .

Is anybody want a Omega parts you can feel free to ask me. I live in Germany and use a 98 Omega sedan as my daily driver (restoring a 78 Pontiac T/A Y82 as my project car).

Maybe I can get the one or other used part on a junk yard.

@nethic

Catera grills doesn't fitt out of the stock. They must re fit to the car. I think Omega grills are the same to a Catera.

elvin315
12-10-12, 07:47 PM
I believe the black headlights are for RHD Omegas and might not be legal in the US. The beams are biased towards the left and will blind oncoming traffic even on low beams. They'll sell them to you but that doesn't mean they'll pass state inspection. I could be wrong. Check before buying.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Opel-Omega-B-Design-Headlights-black-/120940661435?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c28a00abb&vxp=mtr&_uhb=1#ht_1101wt_1165&clk_rvr_id=423774536759

http://www.pbase.com/elvin315/image/72813957

http://www.pbase.com/elvin315/image/72813958

Pega_de
12-12-12, 05:50 PM
where you've read anything about RHD?

But I think it's better and much cheaper to buy a used pair of xenon headlights and retint them

Ludacrisvp
12-12-12, 07:50 PM
Retint headlights???????????????

BattleCAT
12-13-12, 12:15 AM
Pega_de, I am interested in an Irmscher spoiler and Irmscher front bumper if you can find one. I think they look really good. Let me know and Thanks.