: 2014 CTS-V intro???



blkvcts09
10-20-12, 03:44 PM
Sorry if this is an old subject, but does anyone have anything on the 2014 V as far as info or release date. i know the new 2014 trucks and vette are due in 1/2014.

neuronbob
10-20-12, 05:40 PM
2014 CTS comes in fall 2013. V series usually follows a year after if the release pattern follows the 1G and 2G patterns. You've got a long wait if you are awaiting a 3G V.

dennych
10-20-12, 06:04 PM
2014 CTS comes in fall 2013. V series usually follows a year after if the release pattern follows the 1G and 2G patterns. You've got a long wait if you are awaiting a 3G V.

I am curious to see what they do with the new CTS. If it follows a similar philosophy to the ATS, they're heading in a good direction.

1997BlackETC
10-20-12, 07:03 PM
2014 CTS comes in fall 2013. V series usually follows a year after if the release pattern follows the 1G and 2G patterns. You've got a long wait if you are awaiting a 3G V.

Interesting so in other words the 3G V may not be released until the fall of 2014 instead of 2013? Would they keep making the current V as a 2014 model if that were the case or just have no V available for a year? Not sure what happened with the 1G's and 2G's?

neuronbob
10-20-12, 07:56 PM
There was no 2008 CTS-V, only a 2004-2007 (1G) V. Then the 2009-2013. I personally don't think there will be a 2014 V at all given that by the 2014 MY, the toolings at the LGR plant would have changed to make the 3G CTS. I mean, how could they otherwise make a 2014 V other than by hand or wizardry?

Whether 2013 will be the last model year for the current gen V is the subject of much speculation around here. We'll only know when GM tells us officially.

Jinx
10-21-12, 12:53 AM
A year gap will probably help the stragglers on dealer lots get sold.

Also, I wonder if the CTS-V might be delayed a little longer to give the ATS-V a chance to breathe.

1997BlackETC
10-21-12, 01:46 AM
Then on they other hand you'd think caddy would get the 3g CTS-V out there sooner than later because it probably would be a pretty good seller if they can make it with a more fuel efficient twin turbo V6 and a little ligher so it has comparable performance with the current model. I really doubt they'd decrease performance much.

Jinx
10-21-12, 02:19 AM
If they cut the weight to 3900lb, they still need a 500hp motor. That's a lot to get from a turbo V6.

larry arizona
10-21-12, 07:29 AM
The CTS is a longer wheel base version of the ATS so they are very similar (Alpha platform). The 2013 is the last V2. 2014 will take a year off for the V3, MY 2015 V3. For the record the new GM trucks start in Jan 2013......

MikeG-V
10-21-12, 09:31 AM
A year gap will probably help the stragglers on dealer lots get sold.

Also, I wonder if the CTS-V might be delayed a little longer to give the ATS-V a chance to breathe.

I happen to see the ATS at the vlab thing on Friday and noticed almost a foot of space between the v6 and radiator. There appeared to be enough room for a v8 and spaces in other areas to move things around. I asked the people hosting the event and no one fessed up but all smiled at the question. M

Remlap
10-21-12, 10:53 AM
If they cut the weight to 3900lb, they still need a 500hp motor. That's a lot to get from a turbo V6.

I wonder if they are still looking at some type of forced induction on the GM 5.5L?

A lot of speculation out there regarding what this is that they released a photo of back in July.

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Here's a decent article about it. http://www.lsxtv.com/features/gen-v-rumors-whats-coming-in-the-next-generation-small-block/

blkvcts09
10-21-12, 01:04 PM
Sorry, I had a typo the trucks and vette will be out 1/2013. there has been so many videos of the 14 CTS (w/cladding) out there I was hoping the release would be sooner. i currently own am 09.

thebigjimsho
10-24-12, 10:49 AM
Look for the premium engine in the '14 CTS to be the TTV6. The CTS-V will have some sort of V8 in 2015...

1997BlackETC
10-24-12, 12:17 PM
More than likely the 2015 will have the new 5.5 V8 with either a blower or turbo or twins.

Jinx
10-24-12, 12:42 PM
More than likely the 2015 will have the new 5.5 V8 with either a blower or turbo or twins.

This just in -- the next-generation Corvette engine, designation LT1, is 6.2L, not 5.5L, with direct injection, active fuel management (cylinder deactivation), and continuously variable valve timing. Peak torque is 450lbft, peak power at least 450hp.

.Jinx

thebigjimsho
10-24-12, 12:49 PM
Yeah, that 5.5 number was debunked awhile ago...

tedcmiller
10-24-12, 08:12 PM
This guy is asking about the 2014 CTS-V without even knowing whether there will be a 2014 CTS-V (for example, as has been mentioned, there was no 2008 CTS-V). And I thought that I was lucky to get a 2013 CTS-V.

team_car
10-25-12, 09:34 AM
Does anyone KNOW if there will be a V3 wagon?

Cadillac Cust Svc
10-26-12, 01:11 PM
Sorry if this is an old subject, but does anyone have anything on the 2014 V as far as info or release date. i know the new 2014 trucks and vette are due in 1/2014.

Apologies, but I just double checked my resources and do not see any definitive information regarding 2014 models yet Feel free to check in with me anytime via direct message or email (Katie_Lucille@gmexpert.com), and I can keep checking for updates!

Katie
Cadillac Customer Service

Xaqtly
10-26-12, 03:09 PM
Does anyone KNOW if there will be a V3 wagon?

Only GM knows for sure... and at this point it might even be too early for them to know for sure.

cadillaxe
12-25-12, 04:46 PM
i guess i didn't realize this possibility. i thought the 2014 would be just another ctsv with the fancy CUE interface, and didn't even consider a 2014 ctsv coupe may not even exist. i was sure leaning that way, but looks like that may not even be an option. anyone have any more details since the last post? coincidentally i just emailed my local dealer this morning on the subject. guess i'll see what he says too...

baabootoo
12-25-12, 11:17 PM
I thought that the wagons are done.

sunsalem
12-26-12, 04:02 AM
It would make alot of sense for GM to put a turbo-charged smaller displacement motor in the V3. The govt. dictated mileage requirements will continue to climb in the future.

thebigjimsho
12-26-12, 10:54 AM
It would make alot of sense for GM to put a turbo-charged smaller displacement motor in the V3. The govt. dictated mileage requirements will continue to climb in the future.

The V is such small volume, it has almost zero affect on Brand-wide mpg...

sunsalem
12-26-12, 06:11 PM
The V is such small volume, it has almost zero affect on Brand-wide mpg...True. But I gotta wonder when the Camaro and Corvette are put into the mix....

cadillaxe
12-26-12, 06:25 PM
went to the local dealer today. First guy i talked to said he would suspect what we all did, new gen in 14 means no V in 14. But the salesguy i've been working with came over, and he sounded very sure there would be a '14 V coupe with CUE, said he just had some training deal this month, and saw pics even. i asked specifically, and he said he wouldn't have specs until Feb when a '14 could be ordered, but it would have the same engine as '13.

would be surprised if that vcoupe is ready for order in Feb, but he sounded pretty sure so guess we'll know in a couple months...

1analguy
12-26-12, 06:52 PM
Coming from the Corvette side of things, my understanding was that the Corvette plant in Bowling Green was shutting down for their 2014 conversion in 1/'14, to be followed months later by actual 2014 production. The 2014 Corvettes won't be available in January...that's just when they will be unveiled at the Detroit show...again, AFAIK.

cadillaxe
12-26-12, 08:13 PM
he said Feb is when they'd know the specs and be able to start taking pre-orders, cars wouldn't start arriving for 3 months after that though. what you're saying makes sense.

thebigjimsho
12-26-12, 09:55 PM
went to the local dealer today. First guy i talked to said he would suspect what we all did, new gen in 14 means no V in 14. But the salesguy i've been working with came over, and he sounded very sure there would be a '14 V coupe with CUE, said he just had some training deal this month, and saw pics even. i asked specifically, and he said he wouldn't have specs until Feb when a '14 could be ordered, but it would have the same engine as '13.

would be surprised if that vcoupe is ready for order in Feb, but he sounded pretty sure so guess we'll know in a couple months...

Maybe there's a chance they'll make a '14 V as they're releasing a new CTS. But it will have CUE? Not a chance. A '14 V, if it ever were to exist would be a gen 2 and be like every other.

cadillaxe
12-27-12, 06:37 AM
Maybe there's a chance they'll make a '14 V as they're releasing a new CTS. But it will have CUE? Not a chance. A '14 V, if it ever were to exist would be a gen 2 and be like every other.

i don't disagree a bit with your reasoning, just relaying what i was told. Even hearing how sure he was of what he was saying, if i was a betting guy, i'd be betting no one gets a vcoupe w/ CUE until mid 2014 on a '15 model.

thebigjimsho
12-27-12, 12:45 PM
i don't disagree a bit with your reasoning, just relaying what i was told. Even hearing how sure he was of what he was saying, if i was a betting guy, i'd be betting no one gets a vcoupe w/ CUE until mid 2014 on a '15 model.

I've just heard sooo many salespeople over the years promise the moon. This forum is where you'll hear the most reliable scoop. There are members here with ties to GM who give just enough to show you what's for...

03Deville69247
12-27-12, 12:49 PM
So i am just buying my first Caddi...2003 Cadillac Deville....anybody have anything to say about this car?....the headgaskets have been done already and everything works

thebigjimsho
12-27-12, 12:52 PM
hmm...




Enjoy the boat?

cadillaxe
12-27-12, 12:54 PM
I've just heard sooo many salespeople over the years promise the moon. This forum is where you'll hear the most reliable scoop. There are members here with ties to GM who give just enough to show you what's for...

i completely understand that. i just got off the phone with a big supertuner of them, and the guy there said his information also says there will be a '14 ctsv coupe. still not getting my hopes up, but that's 2 independent places saying the same thing. again, 2 months from now we'll know for sure.