: Is $58k for a 2012 used V 6MT wagon fair?



neuronbob
10-18-12, 05:08 PM
I'd obviously try to talk the seller down a little, but what do you guys in the market think? It's close to me and if I can get a reasonable deal, I'm going to pull the trigger pending inspection. I'm already planning how to switch my KPE intake over.

It's a 6MT wagon, fully loaded, 14k miles, fully warranted, not CPO. It's yet another previous GM-owned car and yes, I'm aware of how these cars are potentially driven. Again, it's going to be a daily driver and has a warranty, so I won't worry too much.

smackdownCTSV
10-18-12, 05:35 PM
Knock off a few K and then...
http://gifs.gifbin.com/reverse-1234525508_ben_stiller_-_do_it.gif

MacBuster
10-18-12, 05:59 PM
I'm just finalizing a deal for a 2012 Auto, all options, for $53,100. Black Diamond, blck wheels, yellow calipers. 13,000 miles.

(Also included the two piece brembos and air raid).

mrkool
10-18-12, 06:20 PM
I got my Brand New 2012 for 62k All options no sun roof

smackdownCTSV
10-18-12, 07:15 PM
I'm just finalizing a deal for a 2012 Auto, all options, for $53,100. Black Diamond, blck wheels, yellow calipers. 13,000 miles.

(Also included the two piece brembos and air raid).

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&csDlId=&csDgId=&listingId=100944824

dennych
10-18-12, 07:25 PM
I would say 54k. Congrats on your deal Mac

smackdownCTSV
10-18-12, 07:42 PM
Even with those snow tires, $53K is a very good deal.

MacBuster
10-18-12, 08:33 PM
I would say 54k. Congrats on your deal Mac

Thanks! You should get one too... :)

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Even with those snow tires, $53K is a very good deal.

Snow tires would have been (by necessity), my first purchase. I was more than happy to see them on there. I used them as leverage to get them down lower in price, however. ;)

neuronbob
10-18-12, 08:58 PM
It's about time, MacBuster! i'm glad to read that you are getting one.

If I chicken out and decide to stick with an automatic, the silver automatic 2011 wagon that's only 10 miles from me is still available, and the price is now $51k. They've been coming down for the last few weeks. I've convinced myself, though, that I can do a 6MT as a daily.

$54k for a 2012 6MT wagon? We'll see....I'm sure they got it at auction for that. :)

I just wonder what I'll get in trade for my 2009 V sedan. *shudders* Luckily, I own it free and clear, so it's like having cash for a down payment.

dennych
10-18-12, 09:34 PM
I think as we see more 2013's hit lots the 2012's should start to drop price and the used 2011 and 2012's as well.
That plus the winter.

Teutonaddict
10-18-12, 09:41 PM
I've convinced myself, though, that I can do a 6MT as a daily.

Save the Manuals! Do your part!! How many 6MT @ss-haulin' wagons walk the planet? Or will in future years?

I did MT BMW's for 17 years and the worse spell I ever had were the three years between all of those and my '09 V2/6MT. A hot-rodded X5, fun as it was, still was an auto. I DD'ed an MT M5 in stop-and-go traffic in Atlanta for six of those years, and I still enjoyed it b/c I was rowing my own. DD in a MT ain't that big a deal, really. I know it's cliche in auto reviews, but I haven't worn my clutch leg out yet...

TXAG2004
10-18-12, 10:38 PM
Do it Bob. Dont settle for the auto...

neuronbob
10-18-12, 11:22 PM
(Also included the two piece brembos and air raid).

This made me think. If I do this, maybe I can roll a set of two-piecers into the price, or just add them to purchase price and have the dealer (it's a Cadi dealer) install them.

Then again, I will be trading my V sedan, so I will have to choose my battles carefully.

And LOL at saving the manuals. I only bought an automatic in the first place in case my wife had to drive my car in an emergency. She has never, ever been behind the wheel of my V, in 3 1/2 years of my ownership. Besides, in an emergency, all I have to do is to show her how to shift into second and the torque will take care of the rest, LOL.

MacBuster
10-18-12, 11:35 PM
It's about time, MacBuster! i'm glad to read that you are getting one.



I thought I might get to 1000 posts before I actually became a "real" member here.

I still ahve to wire them the money, and arrange shipping...but I'm pretty sure no turning back now!

M5eater
10-19-12, 08:15 AM
This made me think. If I do this, maybe I can roll a set of two-piecers into the price, or just add them to purchase price and have the dealer (it's a Cadi dealer) install them.

Then again, I will be trading my V sedan, so I will have to choose my battles carefully.

And LOL at saving the manuals. I only bought an automatic in the first place in case my wife had to drive my car in an emergency. She has never, ever been behind the wheel of my V, in 3 1/2 years of my ownership. Besides, in an emergency, all I have to do is to show her how to shift into second and the torque will take care of the rest, LOL.

The only way to stall the V is if you start out in anything but 1st gear- or if you just dump it. It's extremely easy to drive by anyone with enough hand-foot coordination that already walks and flails their arms about How you just 'throw on anything' in the morning.

The clutch is not that stiff, and the shifter is smooth. It's not as light as a civic obviously, but it's not insane.

kenneyd
10-19-12, 10:28 AM
I'd obviously try to talk the seller down a little, but what do you guys in the market think? It's close to me and if I can get a reasonable deal, I'm going to pull the trigger pending inspection. I'm already planning how to switch my KPE intake over.

It's a 6MT wagon, fully loaded, 14k miles, fully warranted, not CPO. It's yet another previous GM-owned car and yes, I'm aware of how these cars are potentially driven. Again, it's going to be a daily driver and has a warranty, so I won't worry too much.

Wanna sell your car instead of trade?

neuronbob
10-19-12, 10:43 AM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!

Someone beat me to it and already put a deposit down already.

It was this one:

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2013&zip=44146&keywords=wagon&listingType=used&ownerId=569586&engineCode=8+Cylinder&transmissionCode=MAN&sellerType=b&listingId=331627845&modelCode1=CTS&startYear=2011&makeCode1=CAD&searchRadius=0

Back to the drawing board. :(

I called my servicing dealer's sales department to let me know if they are getting a 6MT V wagon in.

kenneyd, I will keep you in mind, but I thought you were looking for low-mileage? Mine's got 45k.

VMoose
10-19-12, 10:52 AM
I was looking at that wagon too. Very nice, but that's a lot of miles for 3 months of ownership!

M5eater
10-19-12, 10:55 AM
damn, that had the titanium interior too.


She was a rare beast. You can't wait like that bro. You've got to jump.

neuronbob
10-19-12, 11:00 AM
damn, that had the titanium interior too.


She was a rare beast. You can't wait like that bro. You've got to jump.

I know, I know, I know. WAAAAAAAAAAAH!

To the lucky guy who got it, if you're on the forum, enjoy in good health.

Xaqtly
10-19-12, 01:30 PM
I've convinced myself, though, that I can do a 6MT as a daily.

You can! I do ~60 miles a day on my commute, in traffic, with the 6MT. If you want and enjoy a manual, get the manual. Besides, the 6MT V wagon is one of the rarest cars on the planet, especially if we're talking about cars that are currently in production. I doubt there are even 200 of them total, worldwide. As far as price, $58k seems a wee bit high for a '12 with 14k miles.

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I know, I know, I know. WAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Oh man, I think that was my ideal configuration. 6MT, thunder gray, graphite wheels. Perfect. I've come to really love my white diamond with graphite, dark tint and blacked out grilles, but thunder gray was always my first choice when I was looking.

neuronbob
10-19-12, 02:17 PM
Thanks! My commute is typically 50 miles a day and on the days I'm driving my S2000, shifting doesn't bother me at all, even in rush-hour traffic. I just don't think about it after a while.

If another silver, TG, or OB doesn't appear in the near future on the used market, I will likely just order. I was trying to save some money this time around, though! At the same time, I was looking to either sell my V sedan or trade out while it still has some value.

After seeing that TG with yellow calipers and titanium interior....damn that was a hot combo. It was literally love at first sight.

larry arizona
10-19-12, 02:26 PM
Agree with M5. The EASIEST manny I have ever driven, My wife even likes it when she has to drive my arse home from the bar :alchi:

M5eater
10-19-12, 03:13 PM
Thanks! My commute is typically 50 miles a day and on the days I'm driving my S2000, shifting doesn't bother me at all, even in rush-hour traffic. I just don't think about it after a while.

If another silver, TG, or OB doesn't appear in the near future on the used market, I will likely just order. I was trying to save some money this time around, though! At the same time, I was looking to either sell my V sedan or trade out while it still has some value.

After seeing that TG with yellow calipers and titanium interior....damn that was a hot combo. It was literally love at first sight.

I drive 50 miles every day, and in some of the worst stop and go on the east coast (through the hampton roads tunnels)

The V is still a pleasure to drive and modulate the pedal. .

m5biemer
10-19-12, 05:42 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!

Someone beat me to it and already put a deposit down already.

It was this one:

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?endYear=2013&zip=44146&keywords=wagon&listingType=used&ownerId=569586&engineCode=8+Cylinder&transmissionCode=MAN&sellerType=b&listingId=331627845&modelCode1=CTS&startYear=2011&makeCode1=CAD&searchRadius=0

Back to the drawing board. :(

I called my servicing dealer's sales department to let me know if they are getting a 6MT V wagon in.

kenneyd, I will keep you in mind, but I thought you were looking for low-mileage? Mine's got 45k.
IIRC, this was an auction car that they purchased for a bit over $51k. Wonder how much they dropped from the $57900 they were asking.

M5eater
10-19-12, 06:45 PM
IIRC, this was an auction car that they purchased for a bit over $51k. Wonder how much they dropped from the $57900 they were asking.
Who dares enter the relm of Cadillac forums bearing M5 on their name D=

neuronbob
10-19-12, 08:31 PM
IIRC, this was an auction car that they purchased for a bit over $51k. Wonder how much they dropped from the $57900 they were asking.

I bet, not much. I was going to offer $54-55k.

m5biemer
10-19-12, 08:41 PM
THey've got an barely used one with 75 miles also, but it's not a manual.

neuronbob
10-20-12, 08:30 AM
THey've got an barely used one with 75 miles also, but it's not a manual.

I saw it already. No manual, no sale. :)