: New guy - Hit a curb. Looking for a little advice.



PITT M3 RR
09-19-12, 07:51 PM
Hi guys, I bought an 04 Escalade Base mint with 117100 on it about 3 weeks ago and have been loving it.

With that aside, on my way home today there was an asshat wacker volunteer fireman sitting at an intersection with a gigantic blue light illuminated on his roof. Now I'm a cop, yada yada their blue light grants them ZERO emergency vehicle privileges and in fact they cause more harm than good...my current situation exactly.

An older female in front of me in a Saturn is startled by this light and slams her brakes stopping almost immediately and surely a lot faster than my huge truck. I lock up, skid and have no choice but to pull left into a 6 inch curb at about 25mph and onto the grass island.

So after a visual inspection, when driving while holding the wheel straight, the car veers to the left, hard. What could I have bent or broken in there? Do we have a weak spot in the front suspension? Is it possible everything can be aligned again at the show or will I be needing new parts. I drove home about 20 minutes at 50-65 and there was no odd vibrations or anything, I jsut had to compensate for the pull.

I guess I'm asking if its possible everything is ok, just bumped out of place.

heres the truck anyhow


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the cadillac man
09-19-12, 09:13 PM
Hi guys, I bought an 04 Escalade Base mint with 117100 on it about 3 weeks ago and have been loving it.

With that aside, on my way home today there was an asshat wacker volunteer fireman sitting at an intersection with a gigantic blue light illuminated on his roof. Now I'm a cop, yada yada their blue light grants them ZERO emergency vehicle privileges and in fact they cause more harm than good...my current situation exactly.

An older female in front of me in a Saturn is startled by this light and slams her brakes stopping almost immediately and surely a lot faster than my huge truck. I lock up, skid and have no choice but to pull left into a 6 inch curb at about 25mph and onto the grass island.

So after a visual inspection, when driving while holding the wheel straight, the car veers to the left, hard. What could I have bent or broken in there? Do we have a weak spot in the front suspension? Is it possible everything can be aligned again at the show or will I be needing new parts. I drove home about 20 minutes at 50-65 and there was no odd vibrations or anything, I jsut had to compensate for the pull.

I guess I'm asking if its possible everything is ok, just bumped out of place.

heres the truck anyhow

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Sounds like a tie rod issue one may have snapped from the impact take a look under there to see what's got damaged.

PITT M3 RR
09-19-12, 09:59 PM
I got under there after the incident, but I live on a decent hill in the slopes of Pittsburgh and it made it tough to diagnose. I couldn't see anything out of the ordinary, but personally, I'm used to looking under my 95 M3 that I am restoring. From what I could tell, the tire took a nice bit of force from the impact. luckily I have decent ones on there as you can see in the pic. I'm hoping the fact that there are no ill vibrations and side effects like noise or shudders that this isn't as big a deal as I'm worried it is.

I try to keep my vehicles in tip top shape and something like this happens. :mad: Anyway, I called in a favor and took it back to my parents house and asked if they could run it by the chevrolet dealer down the street tomorrow for an alignment or diagnosis. After calling, the desk woman said it would be around 50 bucks and the service tech will call me in the am to tell me when to have them run it down. Unfortunately I have three more days of daylight shift or I'd be there myself.

I appreciate the help and plan to be more active as a DIY'er around the forums. Just today I installed AVS smoked window visors. I couldn't find any photos on the net of an Escalade with them, so I'll post up when I get it all squared away.

the cadillac man
09-19-12, 10:08 PM
I got under there after the incident, but I live on a decent hill in the slopes of Pittsburgh and it made it tough to diagnose. I couldn't see anything out of the ordinary, but personally, I'm used to looking under my 95 M3 that I am restoring. From what I could tell, the tire took a nice bit of force from the impact. luckily I have decent ones on there as you can see in the pic. I'm hoping the fact that there are no ill vibrations and side effects like noise or shudders that this isn't as big a deal as I'm worried it is.

I try to keep my vehicles in tip top shape and something like this happens. :mad: Anyway, I called in a favor and took it back to my parents house and asked if they could run it by the chevrolet dealer down the street tomorrow for an alignment or diagnosis. After calling, the desk woman said it would be around 50 bucks and the service tech will call me in the am to tell me when to have them run it down. Unfortunately I have three more days of daylight shift or I'd be there myself.

I appreciate the help and plan to be more active as a DIY'er around the forums. Just today I installed AVS smoked window visors. I couldn't find any photos on the net of an Escalade with them, so I'll post up when I get it all squared away.

If nothing looks broke then it may just knocked it out of alignment (I had to get the front end realigned on mine when I got a new set of tires as it was wearing uneven)the price sounds right as mine was around that area for the alignment
And I also am used to working on my 79 Chrysler cordoba(restoring)I normally don't have to do much to my truck.

mikedyk43
09-19-12, 10:30 PM
It may or may not have bent anything. Hard to say without a close inspection. Besides the obvious tie rod possibility, the upper A-arm set bolts may have been shifted when you impacted the curb. If this were the case, you would certainly see some camber misalignment (top of wheel tilting in or out) as well as toe alignment.

PITT M3 RR
09-19-12, 11:05 PM
I'll look into those upper A-arm components tomorrow. I'm going to wait for the call from the dealership and see what they find. Ebay, rockauto and a few others also have the suspension parts...are there certain brands built to a higher standard? If It comes back as a shot suspension, I'll rebuild it myself and save on the dealership parts and labor.

I'm goin to sleep, have to be up at 5. I'll check in tomorrow. Thanks again.

M5eater
09-19-12, 11:09 PM
I find it hard to believe that it could be 'wacked' out of alignment.

Bolts do not loosen violently on hard impacts, I'm sure the Escelade uses a TRE with a nut on a inner and outter end on a rack with a threaded center like every other car in existence. Even if the bolt were loose, the TRE does not simply 'screw itself out of alignment'

something is bent.

the cadillac man
09-19-12, 11:41 PM
I find it hard to believe that it could be 'wacked' out of alignment.

Bolts do not loosen violently on hard impacts, I'm sure the Escelade uses a TRE with a nut on a inner and outter end on a rack with a threaded center like every other car in existence. Even if the bolt were loose, the TRE does not simply 'screw itself out of alignment'

something is bent.

It can happen I know my uncle had it happen to his chevy impala the bolts may or may not be loose but it can cause stuff to damaged even if it ain't visual the damage is done.

M5eater
09-19-12, 11:53 PM
It can happen I know my uncle had it happen to his chevy impala the bolts may or may not be loose but it can cause stuff to damaged even if it ain't visual the damage is done.
My knowledge of suspension geometry must not be sufficient enough to understand how this could occur.

Unless you're agreeing with me? I'm a little confused because you're saying it could be damaged but the damage isn't visual.

wesyder
09-20-12, 01:05 AM
Hello... With that weight of a truck hitting a curb even at that speed, something may shift, something may bend hard to tell, your gonna have to take it to an alignment shop so they can tell you how the wheel is out of adjustment and if they can put it back cool or they can tell you what to replace

the cadillac man
09-20-12, 01:23 AM
My knowledge of suspension geometry must not be sufficient enough to understand how this could occur.

Unless you're agreeing with me? I'm a little confused because you're saying it could be damaged but the damage isn't visual.

I am agreeing as it be damaged without it being visual although I looked at my uncles car and both front tires are wearing uneven and he told me he had bottomed out hard (thanks to a huge pothole)

mikedyk43
09-20-12, 01:58 AM
I find it hard to believe that it could be 'wacked' out of alignment.

Bolts do not loosen violently on hard impacts, I'm sure the Escelade uses a TRE with a nut on a inner and outter end on a rack with a threaded center like every other car in existence. Even if the bolt were loose, the TRE does not simply 'screw itself out of alignment'

something is bent.

Each upper A-arm has two adjustment points that consist of a single bolt that passes through a washer with an off-center hole. Rotating that washer moves the A-arm in or out and this could easily be moved by impacting a curb. If these were to move, the alignment would be thrown off entirely (camber, caster and toe). The chances that the steering linkage threading changed position is HIGHLY unlikely. Even with the limited info that was provided, I'm also leaning towards the likelihood that there is something(s) bent. I was just trying to be optimistic...

PITT M3 RR
09-20-12, 07:20 AM
Thanks for the input fellas - Like I said, its going into chevy today and my number is $300.00, anything more I'll be fixing it at my garage. I'm hoping it only needs an alignment though, but if it does need control arms, ball joints and/or tie rods, then I'll be getting the parts myself.

I'll report back with a detailed list of that what happened and the angle / speed that I hit in case other members suffer a similar collision. It may help in diagnosing their problems later on down the road.

M5eater
09-20-12, 09:54 AM
Each upper A-arm has two adjustment points that consist of a single bolt that passes through a washer with an off-center hole. Rotating that washer moves the A-arm in or out and this could easily be moved by impacting a curb. If these were to move, the alignment would be thrown off entirely (camber, caster and toe). The chances that the steering linkage threading changed position is HIGHLY unlikely. Even with the limited info that was provided, I'm also leaning towards the likelihood that there is something(s) bent. I was just trying to be optimistic...
ahh.. so it uses eccentric bolts for the alignment?

the cadillac man
09-20-12, 11:05 AM
ahh.. so it uses eccentric bolts for the alignment?

You are correct I watched the shop when they realigned mine quite a process to watch.

PITT M3 RR
09-20-12, 05:46 PM
Little update, the dealership called and they had not gotten to the alignment yet, go figure. However they did complete emissions testing with no issues and began the inspection. They stated I needed $870ish dollars worth of work and labor because the driver fog light glass is shattered, the windshield has a rock chip in the driver line of sight and the rear brakes have no backing plates or e-brake because the plates are missing. Now compared to their price, I've figured about

25.00 for the light from ebay
30.00 for safelight to come out and fill my chip with their resin (or free if insurance will cover?)
22.50 for the 2 piece backing plates from ROCKAUTO.COM
50.00 for the rear pads and
25.00 for a harware kit

Is there a write up on the brake install? Theres no way I'm getting taken for that kind of cash on a job I can easily do myself.

wesyder
09-20-12, 06:00 PM
Little update, the dealership called and they had not gotten to the alignment yet, go figure. However they did complete emissions testing with no issues and began the inspection. They stated I needed $870ish dollars worth of work and labor because the driver fog light glass is shattered, the windshield has a rock chip in the driver line of sight and the rear brakes have no backing plates or e-brake because the plates are missing. Now compared to their price, I've figured about

25.00 for the light from ebay
30.00 for safelight to come out and fill my chip with their resin (or free if insurance will cover?)
22.50 for the 2 piece backing plates from ROCKAUTO.COM
50.00 for the rear pads and
25.00 for a harware kit

Is there a write up on the brake install? Theres no way I'm getting taken for that kind of cash on a job I can easily do myself.

You definitely have the right idea

the cadillac man
09-20-12, 06:49 PM
Little update, the dealership called and they had not gotten to the alignment yet, go figure. However they did complete emissions testing with no issues and began the inspection. They stated I needed $870ish dollars worth of work and labor because the driver fog light glass is shattered, the windshield has a rock chip in the driver line of sight and the rear brakes have no backing plates or e-brake because the plates are missing. Now compared to their price, I've figured about

25.00 for the light from ebay
30.00 for safelight to come out and fill my chip with their resin (or free if insurance will cover?)
22.50 for the 2 piece backing plates from ROCKAUTO.COM
50.00 for the rear pads and
25.00 for a harware kit

Is there a write up on the brake install? Theres no way I'm getting taken for that kind of cash on a job I can easily do myself.

Tell them to just do the alignment and you can do the rest gees that is high for that little work
P.s I got both fog light housings brand new on amazion for 50 bucks.
75.00 bucks sounds a bit much for brakes if you ask me

PITT M3 RR
09-20-12, 07:02 PM
Tell to just do the alignment and you can do the rest gees that is high for that little work
P.s I got both fog light housings brand new on amazion for 50 bucks.
75.00 bucks sounds a bit much for brakes if you ask me

I did go ahead and just tell them to align the truck and Ill take care of the rest. Can anyone tell me if I have disks or drums in the rear? I called cadillac to run the vin and see, but I was on hold for 20 min and they closed at 6.

Also, I meant 75 for the parking brakes and hardware kit. The rotors and pads are good to go. I want to order the baking plates, but some are listed as drum and some disk.

Ill be getting both backing plates in 2 piece so I dont have to remove the axles, the hardware kit for the install and the new parking brake shoes.

Anything else while Im back there?

the cadillac man
09-20-12, 07:35 PM
I did go ahead and just tell them to align the truck and Ill take care of the rest. Can anyone tell me if I have disks or drums in the rear? I called cadillac to run the vin and see, but I was on hold for 20 min and they closed at 6.

Also, I meant 75 for the parking brakes and hardware kit. The rotors and pads are good to go. I want to order the baking plates, but some are listed as drum and some disk.

Ill be getting both backing plates in 2 piece so I dont have to remove the axles, the hardware kit for the install and the new parking brake shoes.

Anything else while Im back there?

It's both the main brakes are disc the park brake is drum in a drum in hat configuration (I need new park brakes mine hasn't held since I got the truck) my uncle said that the whole auto industry is going to that on the trucks and certain cars(which means money at the dealer)

wesyder
09-20-12, 07:36 PM
I did go ahead and just tell them to align the truck and Ill take care of the rest. Can anyone tell me if I have disks or drums in the rear? I called cadillac to run the vin and see, but I was on hold for 20 min and they closed at 6.

Also, I meant 75 for the parking brakes and hardware kit. The rotors and pads are good to go. I want to order the baking plates, but some are listed as drum and some disk.

Ill be getting both backing plates in 2 piece so I dont have to remove the axles, the hardware kit for the install and the new parking brake shoes.

Anything else while Im back there?

The rear is disc brakes with parking brake shoes as well

PITT M3 RR
09-20-12, 09:04 PM
Okay, the truck has been picked up at a total of $153.12 for Emissions and alignment and they charged 20.00 of that for attempting to inspect.:banghead: At least once I get squared away with it all, that $20 goes toward the inspection at a later date.

Alignment gave no issues and everything was wrenched into spec as hoped. Don't know how, but I'll take it. That being said, with the list of items that caused the truck to fail, I ordered the brake backing plates, a new fuel filter and a new tranny mount. At 117,500 I figure why the hell not. I used summit racing which means it will all be here tomorrow for a total of $60.80. I'll grab the fog on ebay, and the brake shoes and hardware kit at the local NAPA where I used to work. Hopefully I still get my discount haha.

I'll also be changing out the drivetrain fluids to Synthetic Mobil 1 and other recommended fluids ASAP. A bit of reading has showed me these should be changed often and the good stuff used.

Thanks again guys and I'll post up with pictures when I install the stuff to shed some light on the process.

the cadillac man
09-20-12, 09:50 PM
Okay, the truck has been picked up at a total of $153.12 for Emissions and alignment and they charged 20.00 of that for attempting to inspect.:banghead: At least once I get squared away with it all, that $20 goes toward the inspection at a later date.

Alignment gave no issues and everything was wrenched into spec as hoped. Don't know how, but I'll take it. That being said, with the list of items that caused the truck to fail, I ordered the brake backing plates, a new fuel filter and a new tranny mount. At 117,500 I figure why the hell not. I used summit racing which means it will all be here tomorrow for a total of $60.80. I'll grab the fog on ebay, and the brake shoes and hardware kit at the local NAPA where I used to work. Hopefully I still get my discount haha.

I'll also be changing out the drivetrain fluids to Synthetic Mobil 1 and other recommended fluids ASAP. A bit of reading has showed me these should be changed often and the good stuff used.

Thanks again guys and I'll post up with pictures when I install the stuff to shed some light on the process.

Sounds great just keep in mind the fog light housings are plastic so I suggest replacing the other as soon as possible.

TheCaddyKidd
09-20-12, 10:03 PM
With that aside, on my way home today there was an asshat wacker volunteer fireman sitting at an intersection with a gigantic blue light illuminated on his roof. Now I'm a cop, yada yada their blue light grants them ZERO emergency vehicle privileges and in fact they cause more harm than good...my current situation exactly.




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Based on the information highlighted I would have proceeded to exit my vehicle and slap said volunteer until he no longer could move lol ... I know exactly what you are talking about.. Have the same blue light whackers here in NJ.. Come flying out into intersections against the light, run stop signs, go triple the speed limit, etc.. All things that no one should be doing.. I usually take the plate down and report the said volunteer and let them handle it in house instead of me issuing all the summons' that are warranted.. These clowns deck out there personal cars better then the best police cars I have seen.. It amazes me what these guys do to light up their cars.. I think its great that they want to volunteer but I would say only about 10-20% actually take the job to "help others".. The rest just do it for the lights lol.

PITT M3 RR
09-20-12, 10:13 PM
Based on the information highlighted I would have proceeded to exit my vehicle and slap said volunteer until he no longer could move lol ... I know exactly what you are talking about.. Have the same blue light whackers here in NJ.. Come flying out into intersections against the light, run stop signs, go triple the speed limit, etc.. All things that no one should be doing.. I usually take the plate down and report the said volunteer and let them handle it in house instead of me issuing all the summons' that are warranted.. These clowns deck out there personal cars better then the best police cars I have seen.. It amazes me what these guys do to light up their cars.. I think its great that they want to volunteer but I would say only about 10-20% actually take the job to "help others".. The rest just do it for the lights lol.

Once I physically pick up the bill and truck, I am going to drive it by their station and give it to the fire chief...Once he fights through the confusion (I know he isn't going to pay for it ) I will inform him of what his "peoples" are doing and how dangerous it is for these guys to be running around like that. Either give them the power of an emergency vehicle or take away the damn lights. With most of them being 17-25 I say the lights go and they obey laws. No sense in saving a house and killing 3 people in an unrealted collision.

It's been a long time since I was that angry at anyone, its probably best I didnt have immediate contact with him. I can barely stand going on fire calls, let alone looking into the eyes of the guy that caused me to skip a 7 inch curb at 20+mph. Ugh...Im going to sleep, shift at 6. Thanks guys.

the cadillac man
09-21-12, 02:43 AM
Once I physically pick up the bill and truck, I am going to drive it by their station and give it to the fire chief...Once he fights through the confusion (I know he isn't going to pay for it ) I will inform him of what his "peoples" are doing and how dangerous it is for these guys to be running around like that. Either give them the power of an emergency vehicle or take away the damn lights. With most of them being 17-25 I say the lights go and they obey laws. No sense in saving a house and killing 3 people in an unrealted collision.

It's been a long time since I was that angry at anyone, its probably best I didnt have immediate contact with him. I can barely stand going on fire calls, let alone looking into the eyes of the guy that caused me to skip a 7 inch curb at 20+mph. Ugh...Im going to sleep, shift at 6. Thanks guys.

I know how you feel about the volunteer workers but you have to remember they ain't getting paid(that I know of) but I've had cops in full decked out patrol cars flip the lights on just to run a red light(I had one do this behind me one time and I like to shit myself because I thought he was pulling me over)
The point that needs to be made to all of those workers is they ain't above the law they have to go by it like the rest of us(although I had a cop let a Oldsmobile blow past both me and him and I start to go pass him he pulls over and tries to get me for speeding(I have a radar detector) I was like wtf which even though I have a cousin in the law force why I hate how cops do certain people in my area.
And no volunteer folks don't need lights on a personal vehicle at all it's to risky.

PITT M3 RR
09-23-12, 12:52 AM
No No I understand their intentions, but bottom line is it is not safe. Im getting over it. Ill just replace the control arms in the spring to be sure.

As for lights to get through red lights, I do that all the time if I have a call. But I shut them off until the next intersection then use them to get though and so on. Most times it isnt good to arrive with lights and sirens to a call due to the element of suprise!

BTW the truck rides smooth and is close to perfect again, but slightly off to the left. Itll do for now. I do appreciate the help and Ill post up more when all the parts come in.

wesyder
09-23-12, 01:02 AM
No No I understand their intentions, but bottom line is it is not safe. Im getting over it. Ill just replace the control arms in the spring to be sure.

As for lights to get through red lights, I do that all the time if I have a call. But I shut them off until the next intersection then use them to get though and so on. Most times it isnt good to arrive with lights and sirens to a call due to the element of suprise!

BTW the truck rides smooth and is close to perfect again, but slightly off to the left. Itll do for now. I do appreciate the help and Ill post up more when all the parts come in.

Yeah if theres a robbery in progress you don't wanna roll up with lights and siren

the cadillac man
09-23-12, 01:20 AM
No No I understand their intentions, but bottom line is it is not safe. Im getting over it. Ill just replace the control arms in the spring to be sure.

As for lights to get through red lights, I do that all the time if I have a call. But I shut them off until the next intersection then use them to get though and so on. Most times it isnt good to arrive with lights and sirens to a call due to the element of suprise!

BTW the truck rides smooth and is close to perfect again, but slightly off to the left. Itll do for now. I do appreciate the help and Ill post up more when all the parts come in.

The thing to the lights on is if say someone is about a car length in front you can guess how they feel (I almost started to panic as I thought he was going to pull me over for almost running a yellow light which had turned red when he went through) and with my health I don't like get surprised like that.

wesyder
09-23-12, 02:12 AM
The thing to the lights on is if say someone is about a car length in front you can guess how they feel (I almost started to panic as I thought he was going to pull me over for almost running a yellow light which had turned red when he went through) and with my health I don't like get surprised like that.

Yeah i can understand that

PITT M3 RR
09-23-12, 01:45 PM
Yeah i can understand that

I understand too, I get that hot flash feeling still too when I see lights or hear a siren, but unfortunately there's a need for us to use these things.

Just remember, there is NO need to worry or freak out when getting pulled over. For every 100 police incidents that make the news, there's probably 3 million incidents that went nice and smooth. IF you're the one actually getting pulled over just relax and be cool and it'll go just fine!

the cadillac man
09-23-12, 06:47 PM
I understand too, I get that hot flash feeling still too when I see lights or hear a siren, but unfortunately there's a need for us to use these things.

Just remember, there is NO need to worry or freak out when getting pulled over. For every 100 police incidents that make the news, there's probably 3 million incidents that went nice and smooth. IF you're the one actually getting pulled over just relax and be cool and it'll go just fine!

Although some abuse the lights I do understand that not all do but the cop wasn't going to a call I know cause I seen where he turned off and it wasn't for any police business.

I just wish the cops in my area didn't abuse the radar gun(I even have had two cops use me as a rolling shield and be right on my bumper) what ever happened to having a speed trap really(which few cops still have speed traps) plus it isn't fun to hear your radar detector beeping for the whole trip(one followed me till I turned off to go to collage)
The lights I don't mind as they don't abuse the use of them as much as the radar gun.

I was in Knoxville one time and had a cop abuse the Siren just to pass me (which kinda pissed me off) and he went slow as he could in front of me luckily for him I kept my cool and didn't report him even though I wanted to.
(slow was going 5-10 under the speed limit) which wasn't safe with the traffic i was in(18 wheelers will try they're best to run you off the road if you slower then the traffic.

PITT M3 RR
09-27-12, 02:19 PM
I understand where your coming from again, luckily in Pa only state can use radar!

As for my escalade, parts are in from summit and look great. I want to get the rest of them like shoes and fog then i'll be good to go. I've been sick and aside from working all night and getting more sick i've been stuck sleeping all day to feel decent enough to actually go to work. Viscous circle haha

the cadillac man
09-27-12, 04:23 PM
I understand where your coming from again, luckily in Pa only state can use radar!

As for my escalade, parts are in from summit and look great. I want to get the rest of them like shoes and fog then i'll be good to go. I've been sick and aside from working all night and getting more sick i've been stuck sleeping all day to feel decent enough to actually go to work. Viscous circle haha

I know it sucks when you get sick well I hope you get to feeling better and can get your truck fixed.

PITT M3 RR
10-02-12, 12:48 AM
Back felling better.

I lost a headlight the other night and replaced today with a philips xenstart D1R for 81bucks at napa. Wasnt a bad procedure at all!

Tomorrow is a wash claybar wash wax and detail - Ill also be looking to get the brake stuff installed. The weather is supposed to turn here real soon.

the cadillac man
10-02-12, 03:02 AM
Back felling better.

I lost a headlight the other night and replaced today with a philips xenstart D1R for 81bucks at napa. Wasnt a bad procedure at all!

Tomorrow is a wash claybar wash wax and detail - Ill also be looking to get the brake stuff installed. The weather is supposed to turn here real soon.

I know how you feel on the headlight I had to replace both of mine due to limited range(you could only see about 8 feet in front of the truck replaced them with new ones and had the drivers side act up called the seller and they sent 2 brand new bulbs(of corse the one I had in the truck decided to work again odd) but now I have some spare bulbs

Plus I have a feeling the weather is going to change here in my area soon as the forecast is giving some colder temps by next week.

godsdiablo
10-02-12, 09:20 AM
If your truck is still pulling I would bring it back and have them rerun the test. They should warranty it for 30-60 days, atleast I know the shop near me did

PITT M3 RR
10-02-12, 12:35 PM
I asked for the print out, everything is with in spec, its only slightly off and I know its because of the curb. Its not drastic, maybe a few degree at most. This will be fine for winter and come spring, Ill order new arms with bushings and ball joints.