: bluetooth audio streaming



simgolfer
09-06-12, 09:39 AM
Anyone know how to upgrade a V's audio system to allow this? Sucks that such a sweet ride does not have a feature a low end Kia has. Thanks.

cvs
09-06-12, 12:33 PM
Try this...works great!

http://www.newpotatotech.com/TUNELINK_AUTO/tunelink_auto.html

JimmyH
09-06-12, 01:16 PM
Anyone know how to upgrade a V's audio system to allow this? Sucks that such a sweet ride does not have a feature a low end Kia has. Thanks.

It makes sense that a 5-year old design does not have the cutting edge features a new to market design does.

dennych
09-06-12, 01:59 PM
It makes sense that a 5-year old design does not have the cutting edge features a new to market design does.

I think he just wishes the CUE system was in the CTS-V :)

JimmyH
09-06-12, 03:54 PM
I am waiting for the first news story about "man who crashes because he was trying to figure out CUE instead of paying attention to the road"

VMoose
09-06-12, 04:39 PM
Posted this in another thread, but it should work for you, and its cheap.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10827&cs_id=1082704&p_id=7364&seq=1&format=2

dennych
09-06-12, 09:59 PM
I am waiting for the first news story about "man who crashes because he was trying to figure out CUE instead of paying attention to the road"

Was fiddling around with the ATS at a recent food festival in LA. That CUE screen is way too shiny with too much glare!

thebigjimsho
09-06-12, 10:52 PM
It's fine on the road...

simgolfer
09-07-12, 01:38 AM
Posted this in another thread, but it should work for you, and its cheap.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10827&cs_id=1082704&p_id=7364&seq=1&format=2

Thanks for the advice. Do you know if you have to re-pair your phone each time you get in the car or does it do it automatically? BTW, I have a Samsung Galaxy S3

VMoose
09-07-12, 10:30 AM
It appears from the customer reviews that it will reconnect automatically. I have a Galaxy Nexus. I will buy one soon and report back on the effectiveness.

McGuffy
09-07-12, 11:19 AM
Bluetooth isn't new, and if the CTS allows phone pairing, it really should support A2DP. I was a bit disappointed by this as well.

tedcmiller
09-07-12, 11:39 PM
Not all phones will pair with the CTS-Vs Bluetooth. My Samsung Alias II does, but I don't know about others. There is a list somewhere.

Mike02z
09-07-12, 11:42 PM
Here is what I just bought. I'll let you know how it works. The only thing I don't know is if the V's USB port will charge it.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00727FE5U/ref=ox_ya_os_product

If The V's USB will not charge it, I'll get one of these..

http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Powerjolt-Dual-Universal-Micro/dp/B0042B9U8Q/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_y

McGuffy
09-08-12, 08:33 AM
I can't think of any reason it wouldn't charge it.

JimmyH
09-08-12, 03:28 PM
The USB port may not put out enough voltage to charge all phones.

thebigjimsho
09-09-12, 08:15 PM
The USB port may not put out enough voltage to charge all phones.

Indeed.

Gary Veeeee
09-09-12, 09:11 PM
My iPhone works just fine With the bees Bluetooth tooth system. the only thing is I haven't read about that yet but I can't say the persons name I have to use actual phone numbers

Gary Veeeee
09-09-12, 09:14 PM
Sorry that post was really messed up. This may also have been said previously about my Apple iPhone works fine with pairing with the V. I was going to say the only thing I not figured out is to use contact names instead of numbers..

mrkool
09-16-12, 03:40 PM
Here is what I just bought. I'll let you know how it works. The only thing I don't know is if the V's USB port will charge it.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00727FE5U/ref=ox_ya_os_product

If The V's USB will not charge it, I'll get one of these..

http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Powerjolt-Dual-Universal-Micro/dp/B0042B9U8Q/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_y

So did this work? i want to pick this up as well.

Also can the phone pair with two devices at one time? Phone with the Caddy and Audio with this?

Mike02z
09-16-12, 06:27 PM
Yes, works perfectly. The UBS port on the V charges this. The only issue is you can't charge it while using it. I attached it to the inside of the console and streamed music for 2+ hours with no issue. I didn't check to see if I could pair the phone with the BT in the car. I will verify that this week but I'm away now and don't have my V with me.

VMoose
09-17-12, 07:27 PM
Thanks for the advice. Do you know if you have to re-pair your phone each time you get in the car or does it do it automatically? BTW, I have a Samsung Galaxy S3

Just tried the monoprice adapter out in the V. Works great!! My phone said it was connected to both the bluetooth adapter and the car. It also paired automatically.

I also bought a $1 USB A Male to USB A Male cable to power it while inside the console.

Mike02z
09-20-12, 09:35 PM
So with all the good things I have heard about the Monoprice unit I decided to pick one of these up and do a head-to head with the Go Grove BlueGate.

1.) Physical size: The Monoprice unit is HUGE compared to the BlueGate unit.
Advantage: BlueGate

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/81686877/IMG_20120920_210522.jpg

2.) Ease of connectivity: The Bluegate has a cord built in and tucked neatly against the side of the storage bin. You need to buy a 3.5mm-3.5mm cable for the Monoprice unit. the Bluegate also comes with a 5V to USB to charge the battery. The Monoprice was really designed for in home use and requires a separate USB cable to power it.
Advantage: BlueGate
3.) Bluetooth connectivity: Both devices paired with my Samsung GNEX and Blackberry 9810 easily. The Monoprice unit has auto reconnect. You need to hold the power button on the BlueGate.
Advantage:Monoprice
4.) Sound Quality: Both use A2DP and I have used both for several hours with no issues. Both sound fairly good. Not audiophile good but then we are talking compressed music on a car system.
Advantage: Tie
5.) Power: This BlueGate has a built in battery that you need to charge for 2-3 hours. You can use the USB in the V to charge the device, but you cannot charge it and use it at the same time. The Monorpice unit has no battery built in but allows you to use a male USB-A to male USB-A to connect to the USB to power it.
Advantage: Monoprice

So the bottom line:
For size and built in connectivity, I would go with the BlueGate
If size is not an issue, and you don't mind buying a couple extra cables, go with the Monoprice unit.

I'm sticking with the Monoprice unit. The reason being it auto connects to your device, stays powered as long is you leave it plugged into the USB port. Having to charge the BlueGate, and not being able to use it while it charges is a big turn off for me. Also requiring you to open the console and hold the power button of the BlueGate every time you enter he car is annoying. I think in the end the monoprice was also cheaper, even after buying the 2 cables needed. I'm thinking the 5 dollar savings is not a big deal to folks you bought a V. I was looking for the best device for my needs. The Monoprice unit fits my needs better. YMMV

Anyone want to buy a slightly used BlueGate with about 8 hours of use on it? :D

mrkool
09-20-12, 10:06 PM
based on your review i just cancelled my order of BlueGate and ordering a mono price

VMoose
09-20-12, 10:09 PM
Awesome review Mike!!!! I'm sure this will be super helpful to other members. I know I've been enjoying the monoprice adapter this week, and your comments are on point. Yes you have to piece together a few cables, but it does fit tidily in the console even if it's slightly larger.

mrkool
09-20-12, 11:18 PM
can we sticky this post please? i am sensing more and more V owners will probably want to know this

McGuffy
09-21-12, 08:06 AM
The USB port may not put out enough voltage to charge all phones.

Doesn't have to charge the phone, just the Bluetooth receiver.

M5eater
09-21-12, 08:31 AM
The USB port may not put out enough voltage to charge all phones.
USB 2.0 ports put out 500mA at 12V, and every car's cig port is going to be putting out 12-14.4V

That's enough for any phone.


Good post OP, I may pick one of these up!

mrkool
09-21-12, 09:11 AM
USB port outs 5-6 Volts

JimmyH
09-21-12, 01:42 PM
Computer manufacturers don't strictly adhere to the usb standards. Car manufacturers are even less likely to adhere to them.

The other issue is that the amperage and voltage are not particularly steady in automobiles. Some electronics devices are ok with this. Some are not.

asilver
06-04-13, 03:41 PM
has anyone tried this?

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10308&cs_id=1030801&p_id=9386&seq=1&format=3#specification

unsure if it will work with the car's operating system

taken
06-05-13, 08:07 AM
This one also works well and the car's USB charges it while in use. Plug it in and forget it. Pairs automatically after the first pairing too.

http://www.amazon.com/Miccus-Mini-jack-RX-Bluetooth-Receiver/dp/B0038MA11U/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1370434012&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=miscuss+bluetooth

If you like it loud, a side note is, most of these play about 10% lower than if connected through the cable. Nature of bluetooth I guess...

VMoose
09-02-13, 11:38 AM
Here is my solution.

$19.47 Monoprice Bluetooth Receiver Link: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10827&cs_id=1082704&p_id=7364
http://images.monoprice.com/productlargeimages/73641.jpg
$0.90 Monoprice USB A Male to USB A Male (for powering the receiver) Link: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030303&p_id=5441&seq=1&format=2
http://images.monoprice.com/productlargeimages/54411.jpg
$1.50 3.5mm male to male stereo cable (I had several laying around the house) Link: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&cs_id=1021812&p_id=5575&seq=1&format=2
http://images.monoprice.com/productlargeimages/55751.jpg

All set up in the console:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Q65WQrOTL-Q/UiSsIxwXG7I/AAAAAAAAEoA/081X6DPoK1o/s800/2013-08-14%252018.11.35.jpg

The phone automatically pairs within range. For my Android phone, I use the Poweramp music app which launches and plays music on Bluetooth connect. It will automatically pause when the bluetooth device is not in range or it is off.

simgolfer
09-02-13, 06:47 PM
Almost exactly the same setup I have

Xaqtly
09-25-14, 01:03 PM
I'm resurrecting this thread because I got an iPhone 6+ and it's so big that it doesn't fit in ANY of the CTS-V's center console cubbyholes. Literally the only place it fits at all is in the top half of the armrest, diagonally, and even that's just barely. And there's no way a cable would fit in there along with it. And it doesn't really fit in the cupholders either.

So now I need to look into streaming bluetooth adapters because I can't put the phone anywhere in the center console, at least not without extensive modifications. So a number of the solutions posted already in this thread should work, but there is one thing nobody mentioned in any of the reviews of any of the products - track listings. Do the track listings show up on the infotainment screen like they do when you have the phone physically connected? Also, what about the steering wheel controls? Because that, and the track info on the screen, are features I would not like to give up.

Has anybody found a bluetooth streaming solution that also enables the steering wheel controls and shows track listings?

kev5696
09-25-14, 04:11 PM
Here is my solution. $19.47 Monoprice Bluetooth Receiver Link: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10827&cs_id=1082704&p_id=7364 $0.90 Monoprice USB A Male to USB A Male (for powering the receiver) Link: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030303&p_id=5441&seq=1&format=2 $1.50 3.5mm male to male stereo cable (I had several laying around the house) Link: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10218&cs_id=1021812&p_id=5575&seq=1&format=2 All set up in the console: The phone automatically pairs within range. For my Android phone, I use the Poweramp music app which launches and plays music on Bluetooth connect. It will automatically pause when the bluetooth device is not in range or it is off. Works great for my iphone5!!!
Doesn't show track listings but volume control works on steering wheel.

hank213
09-28-14, 09:02 PM
Thank you for this post. I agree that we should sticky it as well. This was the only problem I could find before buying my V.

Xaqtly
10-01-14, 01:05 PM
Well I made a decision for my situation, so I figured I'd post what I learned for future reference.

The impetus for your decision can be broken down by one main choice:

1. You still want to be able to control tracks with the steering wheel buttons, and you want track listings on the screen, or
2. You don't care about track listings or being able to skip tracks, you just want music to play


1. If you want to be able to control tracks from the steering wheel and see the track listings on the screen, you must use Cadillac's wired system. There is no bluetooth system I've found that will also transmit the USB data component wirelessly, therefore you don't get track listings and can't change tracks via the head unit or steering wheel. So this means you need a device that is physically connected to the car. That can be via the Cadillac 30-pin adapter (with an additional Apple lightning adapter for newer Apple devices), or a USB flash drive, or you can transfer songs to the built in 10GB hard drive.

2. All the other solutions in this thread work for this method, and the most popular one looks like the monoprice bluetooth adapter, as it will automatically start playing music again when it connects to your phone. This will allow you to keep your phone in your pocket, and music will stream wirelessly to the head unit, but you will still need to use your phone as the control device to switch tracks. The benefit is, obviously, no wired connection to your phone is needed.


I'm part of the first group, I want to be able to choose playlists, switch tracks, see the tracks on the screen and all that good stuff. My problem is my iPhone 6+ doesn't fit anywhere in any of the center console cubbyholes, so I can't connect my phone to the Cadillac system any more. I mean not without extensive modifications and rewiring, which I'm not qualified to do and don't really want to.

So that left me very few options. The USB stick thing is kind of a PITA, it's picky about how you format the drive and how you organize the folders, and I didn't want to go through all that. I already had established playlists in iTunes that I didn't want to recreate manually on a flash drive. So here was my solution:

Refurbished iPod Nano (http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/ipod/ipod_nano/16gb)

https://www.apple.com/ipod-nano/images/overview_hero.jpg

And this may not work as a solution for everybody, but the benefits are that it works with all the playlists I had already created, and the CTS-V sees it like it sees an iPhone - exactly the same. And it's very small and thin, and you can just leave it in the car. All I had to do was plug it into iTunes, literally just drag and drop all my playlists onto it, and that was it. The downsides are that, yes, it's much more expensive than a bluetooth streaming adapter or a USB stick, so this is a somewhat situational solution. I would recommend it for anybody who manages their music with iTunes. That link goes to Apple's refurb site where you can get a Nano (the cheapest iPod that will work in this way) for 1/3 off retail, and it comes with a full Apple warranty and in all the original Apple packaging, etc.

Not the cheapest option, but for me it was the best because now I have all my playlists back and all the track info and I can control it from the steering wheel just like I used to.

AdmiralB
10-01-14, 08:29 PM
Well I made a decision for my situation, so I figured I'd post what I learned for future reference.

Does the nano have the same "can't display artist/album/track" limitations as the iPhones? I figure it would, but doesn't hurt to ask.

Xaqtly
10-02-14, 11:36 AM
Does the nano have the same "can't display artist/album/track" limitations as the iPhones? I figure it would, but doesn't hurt to ask.

What limitation is that? With both my iPhone and the iPod, it displays the track and artist on the screen, I'm not sure what you're referring to.

AdmiralB
10-02-14, 06:16 PM
What limitation is that? With both my iPhone and the iPod, it displays the track and artist on the screen, I'm not sure what you're referring to.

The fact that you can't sort artist/album/track. If I select "artist", it just shows all tracks for each artist - it doesn't subgroup by album. All my other cars do, but not this one.

I almost wonder if it's some MS-Apple thing - MS intentionally getting little digs at Apple users...

Xaqtly
10-03-14, 11:32 AM
I'm still not sure what you're getting at. I just looked on my iPhone right now and if I select Artists, it lists each artists, how many albums of theirs I have, and how many songs. If I tap on the artist, It does break it down into albums and then songs. It even keeps the tracks in order of their listing on the album. Whatever you're talking about is not a limitation of the iPhone or iPod. It could be a limitation of the CTS-V's infotainment system though, it is at least 7 years old now, since it was developed.