: what do you guys think about this deal?



mrkool
09-02-12, 05:38 PM
i was not in a hurry before but hearing how after sep 15th the gmpp prices will be increased greatly i am thinking to pick a car sooner

2009 All options , brand new tires, brand new brakes (rotors), 5 months left on the factory warranty 38k miles has Lingenfelter pulley kit and as far as i can tell that is the only mod not even sure if there is a tune on it.
1 owner clean car fax wheels has some crub rash but over all car is clean. Have not driven it yet but if i get the dealer to take 40k for it with GMPP from Black Cadillac for 2300 for 4 years 48k miles i would be out 42300 + 1400 (tax + 160 Tags = 43,860

what do you think?

larry arizona
09-02-12, 09:00 PM
average. if the car is clean why not...... is that an additional 4 yr 48K miles? I would keep the $2300 for the GMPP and put it in the bank.

neuronbob
09-03-12, 10:05 AM
He's talking an additional 4 years and 48k miles on the warranty, so with only five months/12k miles left on the warranty, I'd take the GMPP. The other GMPP online discounters I've looked at offer a similar price for 4/48, a little over $2300. I thought GMPP prices went up in October?

1997BlackETC
09-03-12, 10:29 AM
The biggest thing is check the car over carefully, if it checks out it sounds like a good deal.

ajjones44
09-03-12, 10:57 AM
If has a pulley it has a tune.

neuronbob
09-03-12, 11:09 AM
If has a pulley it has a tune.

So true. That, btw, negates the 5/100k powertrain warranty on the 2009s. (Powertrain warranty length/miles was different after 2010.) However,the remainder of GMPP still applies.

4DR_ZR1
09-03-12, 11:22 AM
2009 All options , brand new tires, brand new brakes (rotors), 5 months left on the factory warranty, 38k miles, has Lingenfelter pulley kit and as far as i can tell that is the only mod not even sure if there is a tune on it.
1 owner clean car fax wheels has some curb rash but over all car is clean. Have not driven it yet but if i get the dealer to take 40k for it...
Do you know or did the dealer tell you that a Lingenfelter pulley kit was installed? I just find it interesting that the dealer (if it is a GM dealer) would offer it that way and promote that it still has factory warranty remaining.

And I would also be concerned about purchasing GMPP if it has engine mods.


If has a pulley it has a tune.
Almost guaranteed

baabootoo
09-03-12, 01:28 PM
I would get it dynoed, to make SURE the tune is just right. There are stories here about guys trying to refix things after they buy a modded car. It will be the best $100 you could spend on it, plus you'll now what the numbers are too then.

mrkool
09-03-12, 02:22 PM
I have not seen or driven the car yet. The dealer is a GM dealer and they sell Caddys they could not certify this because of the mods.

If the Caddy factory warranty is voided for power and trans will the GMPP void that as well?

larry arizona
09-03-12, 03:03 PM
$2300 buys you a lot of repairs that I wouldnt want the dealer to do anyways......

OldRoadDawg
09-03-12, 04:58 PM
If the Caddy factory warranty is voided for power and trans will the GMPP void that as well?

Yes sir.

Excerpt from GMPP Major Guard agreement:

This Agreement is not responsible for a FAILURE or CLAIM:
a) Caused by misuse, abuse, negligence, alterations, or modifications made to YOUR VEHICLE;

And GMPP would be tougher to argue a claim with than GM Factory warranty

turbol15
09-03-12, 05:04 PM
stay away

mrkool
09-03-12, 06:35 PM
yeah i am thinking I am gonna wait for a stock 2010

smackdownCTSV
09-03-12, 10:12 PM
What's your location? You aren't going to find a 2010 for $42K.

1997BlackETC
09-03-12, 11:57 PM
Heres a 2010 for 32K http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=02871&endYear=2013&keywords=cts-v&modelCode1=CTS&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&startYear=2009&makeCode1=CAD&keywordsfyc=cts-v&searchRadius=0&listingId=328156107&Log=0

Seriously though, you'd be hard pressed to find even a 2009 for anything less than 40K and that's with higher mileage. Maybe they will come down some this winter.

TheDarkKnight
09-04-12, 08:29 AM
Look at the pics closer. It's not a V

mik2718
09-04-12, 12:18 PM
I'm pretty sure 1997BlackETC was aware of that car's true identity.

1997BlackETC
09-04-12, 12:52 PM
Heck you could just put some 9:11 gears in the rear of that STD. CTS and pretend it was a V, you could tie the 3.9 0 to 60 time. Of course 60 mph would be the top speed, but at least you'd save money on speeding tickets.

ClarkkentCTSV
09-04-12, 06:51 PM
When I was looking for a pre owned V I would only consider a CPO. Comes with extended warranty 6 year
or 100K. That means I have warranty until July 2015! CPO also means the entire car was brought back to
like new condition and inspected by the service department minus minor cosmetic issues. Just something to
consider if you plan on keeping the car for a while.

4DR_ZR1
09-04-12, 08:30 PM
When I was looking for a pre owned V I would only consider a CPO. Comes with extended warranty 6 year
or 100K. That means I have warranty until July 2015! CPO also means the entire car was brought back to
like new condition and inspected by the service department minus minor cosmetic issues. Just something to
consider if you plan on keeping the car for a while.

While I can't dispute the merits of getting a CPO warranty, your belief that the car is 'brought back to like new condition' . . . uh, No.

I've have had buddies that were Cadillac techs doing the checkoff list inspection for CPO certification and stood right next to them while performing their checks. If it was a pretty clean car and had the required tread depth, pad thickness, no exterior/interior damage, etc, then give it an oil change and certify it. The guy in the detail bay will give it a nice buff job and the sales manager will submit it as another CPO. Doesn't cost the dealer anywhere close to to the additional $1000 -$1200, or whatever that they add to the selling price.

CPO warranties are great to have when a problem arises, just don't delude yourself into believing that Santa's elves have gone over the car with a magnifying glass before you bought it.

larry arizona
09-04-12, 08:36 PM
Most dealers do nothing to CPO a car. Wash it, steam clean carpet and armor all the tires...

ClarkkentCTSV
09-05-12, 01:01 AM
I was under that assumption because before I flew up to buy the car they replaced a few interior parts that
had some cosmetic defects. They replaced the back of the seats due to the leather being ripped and the
drivers side door panel for excessive wear, plus the car feels and looks like new! I guess I was lucky they
replaced those used parts with new ones. Oh and let me not forget the two new rear tires. All service receipts to
prove it.

Than again there are good dealers out there and then there are the stealerships.