: Traded My Wife's Accord For a Thunderbird



ted tcb
08-28-12, 05:17 PM
In my never ending quest to own quirky, eclectic automobiles (see my earlierpost on buying a Jag X Type), I sold her Accord earlier today.

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The Accord is a 2004 EXL, a really ugly yet practical car. It is sage green over tan leather, with an amazing 25000 miles. I have the Jag, the Miata, and a low mileage
Mazda 6, so we won't miss the Accord for daily driver duty.

My wife occasionally drives my 91 Miata to see clients. She loves the open air experience, the treat of shifting gears on winding country roads.
It is a great stress reliever at the end of a busy day.

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My wife has always wanted a retro Thunderbird in T Bird blue. I felt it was time she rewarded herself with her own convertible, hence the 2002 T Bird.

I found the original owner, a fleet sales manager for a Toronto Ford dealership.Nice guy, just started a family later in life, and he responded to my offer of swapping cars. I sent multiple high def pics of the Accord and her service history.He did the same with his T Bird. Nasty items like COP's had been changed when due (Ford's terrible coil on plug system always failed on the 3.9L motor).We settled on a private swap, plus some cash.He's happy, we're happy.
All of his pals tell him he's nuts to change the Bird for the Accord, but his priorities
have changed in life, and he feels its time for a new owner to enjoy his pride and joy.

Here are a few photos I took at the dealership todayThe optional 2 tone interior helps to offset the plain Lincoln LS dash.


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Its a soft, luxurious blvd cruiser.The Bird actually is wearing 4 new snow tires.

Not so bad for us, as it will get light duty this winter, and then I'll retire it from any winter driving next summer.In the spring, I'll hunt down the optional chrome wheels and summer tires.
The car comes with the OEM turquoise hardtop and dolly, portholes and all.The original lined cloth convertible top is in great shape.
Basically, if the T Bird needed any work, the owner just told the Ford mechanics to fix it when he came to work.
It really checked out nicely.The T Bird will likely get driven a few thousand miles per year, with a Mazda6 the bad weather car.
I will eventually source the chrome rims, repaint the blue part of the steering wheel (marks from the driver's rings), and source a soft boot cover.
The original owner found the boot fussy, and threw it away after never using it!

I know some find the styling homely, but we've always loved this car in the classic turquoise/blue color scheme.

My wife is thrilled, and that's all that really matters to me.

orconn
08-28-12, 05:31 PM
Aha! The ultimate wife pleaser, (unless she is into junking, antiquing or soccer momming). Congratulations, a wise trade for your wife and an open car for you to drive should you break a leg!

MotownPimp
08-28-12, 05:56 PM
Great deal. I've been toying with buying the T-Bird in blue for my wife. Love the T-Birds.

ShapeShifter
08-28-12, 06:22 PM
Congrats! Nice looking car...your wife should definitely be pleased.

truckinman
08-28-12, 06:46 PM
I've got very mixed feelings on these thunderbirds. I actually like the 90s body style quite a bit more. Congrats on the purchase however. Just never been my kinda car. I can't quite put my finger on why tho. Lol. They just don't create that spark to me I guess.

vincentm
08-28-12, 07:55 PM
Me too, i prefer a 97 LX model than these models. Ford tried to futurize the 1955-57, and failed... only my opinion of course.

orconn
08-28-12, 08:03 PM
For what it is a "personal luxury" car I think the recent Thunderbird was a major success. A comfortable boulevard two seater for "ladies that lunch" or professional ladies looking for something that makes a personal statement.

From their not inconsiderable presence on the roads and in the parking lots of Midlothian, I'd say they were quite successful at finding a market and filling it!

truckinman
08-28-12, 09:31 PM
Me too, i prefer a 97 LX model than these models. Ford tried to futurize the 1955-57, and failed... only my opinion of course.

Yes sir exactly right. I've ways wanted a 93-94 super coupe. 94 bc that's when they kinda changed the design a bit by rounding off the edges, but a 93 bc I had a pristine 1993 ford t-bird in high school. Was the ice blue color. Looked brand new. But only had fords 3.8 V6 with 140 hp. But I loved that car. Handled great for such a large coupe. Then after high school I sold it to my best friend for 500 bucks. A week later some ass hat pulled out in front of him going 45 mph and he nailed him. Totaled the car. My buddy walked away without even a scratch tho. It was such a shame to see that car totaled.

Jesda
08-28-12, 09:48 PM
AWESOME! I've always wanted one of these.

There should have been a Lincoln-branded and rebodied version called the Mark IX. It is, after all, a topless Lincoln LS.



The purple Neiman Marcus edition sold out in two hours.

http://f.images.boldride.com/ford/thumbnails/654.436.ford-thunderbird-neiman-marcus-1306373973-1314.jpg

thebigjimsho
08-28-12, 11:25 PM
I would never want one. But as a top-down cruiser, very nice...

Playdrv4me
08-28-12, 11:47 PM
Very nice car I've considered a few times myself. I think because they are so beautiful on the outside, I'm doubly offended by the awful interiors as time passes on. Unfortunately, I think the two tone interiors do more harm than good in that respect. But a convertible isn't about the interior anyway, so that definitely helps.

How many miles? Based on what little I can see of the driver's seat wear, looks like 60-80k?

orconn
08-28-12, 11:57 PM
Jesda, there ya go! A great replacement for Duckyy's Summertime chores .... and give you a break from ABBA and their ilk. And you never know who you might meet at the Ford agency when you take her in for service! You'd have to ditch the Birkenstocks though.

ted tcb
08-29-12, 12:05 AM
Its actually a little more, about 90k.
For what I paid, Ian, I fully expected to find a car covered in road rash, stone chips, and dings.
If so, I would've walked away.

When I walked into the dealership's service bay, I was astounded at the car's cosmetic condition.
We did a private deal, swapping titles plus $3500 cash.
There are lots of Birds on Ebay in the US, but nothing decent up this way for anything less than
$20k. I paid around $13k Canadian.
I kind of like the retro look of the two tone interior done in teal.
It pays homage to the original Birds.

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It also drives like an old sixties cruiser.
Squats a bit on take off, is very smooth, with a subtle roar from the 3.9L Jag V8 and twin exhaust.
Not the same convertible experience as my Miata, in fact, the polar opposite.
But, for a woman who wants to have a luxurious, stylish ride around town, it fits the bill.

talismandave
08-29-12, 01:25 AM
Nice looking car, love the color combo! If I didn't need a back seat, I would probably want one. Sounds like a car I would enjoy. I am also with Jesda, I would be all in if they made a Lincoln model of that! I'd rent the couple times a year I needed a back seat!

MotownPimp
08-29-12, 03:12 AM
I had the hots for that T-Bird when they first hit the market. But anyone over 6' will not fit with the hard top in place. I could not find a seating position where my head cleared the roof. Plus $40,000 when first released seemed high. Than the 350 Z came out, end of the T-Bird; cooler design, faster & $10,000 less.

Playdrv4me
08-29-12, 03:47 AM
Remember the 'Bird was never designed as a permanent fixture of the Ford line-up. It was a special release that was only supposed to be for a short time and they actually extended it if I recall correctly due to demand, even at the ludicrous price.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
08-29-12, 08:12 AM
Neat car! I've never been a huge fan of that body style of Thunderbird, mainly because it didn't fit my demographic, but I thought they were neat in their own way and definitely a J Mays legendary throwback design. My favorite Thunderbirds are the 89-97's, 67-69's and the 72-76's.

ted tcb
08-29-12, 09:20 AM
Remember the 'Bird was never designed as a permanent fixture of the Ford line-up. It was a special release that was only supposed to be for a short time and they actually extended it if I recall correctly due to demand, even at the ludicrous price.


Also interesting to note that some Ford/Lincoln dealers were getting anywhere from $5 to $8k over list
price during the initial release. Nice way to turn off the public, but certainly not unheard off.

EcSTSatic
08-29-12, 10:37 AM
I looked at one exactly like that a few days ago. Had $22K on the sticker. As much as I love convertibles, especially Tbirds, the 15-22 MPG rating just doesn't cut it anymore.

brandondeleo
08-29-12, 11:48 AM
I like that Thunderbird... It's cool. Kind of retro. I'd rock one. Couldn't fit in one, apparently. *disappointed* I absolutely hate the previous Thunderbird... The way I see it, the Thunderbird was absolute crap between 72 and 97. They went away from what it was originally supposed to be, and the 2002 picked it up where it should have been picked up. How is the power with that little V8? Has it got enough oomph to make it fun?

Congrats on the great new car!

97EldETC
08-29-12, 08:26 PM
Looks exactly like my neighbors inside and out! They have a Murano too but, eh. Beautiful car!

ted tcb
08-29-12, 08:30 PM
Brandon, the little Jaguar 3.9L motor makes 252hp for 2002. The next year, it went up to 280hp.

Plenty of oomph for this style of ride. The Bird is an ultrasmooth boulevard cruiser.
I'm not overly concerned with gas. We don't commute for our jobs, and we have the Miata and
the Mazda6 to help offset the thirstier Jaguar X Type and Thunderbird.

If we hadn't come across this Bird, I would've purchased a Sebring Limited convertible, likely a 2006.
How is your Sebring holding up?

BigCadMan_1
08-29-12, 08:33 PM
That's a flaming car.....did it come with a Simply Red CD?

R.

CadillacLuke24
08-29-12, 09:07 PM
Brandon, the little Jaguar 3.9L motor makes 252hp for 2002. The next year, it went up to 280hp.

Plenty of oomph for this style of ride. The Bird is an ultrasmooth boulevard cruiser.
I'm not overly concerned with gas. We don't commute for our jobs, and we have the Miata and
the Mazda6 to help offset the thirstier Jaguar X Type and Thunderbird.

If we hadn't come across this Bird, I would've purchased a Sebring Limited convertible, likely a 2006.
How is your Sebring holding up?

His is good, but Gen 1s are good. General consensus is that the Gen 2 and 3 Sebrings SUCK. Brandon, KING of all Sebring fans, has even said this :D

The-Dullahan
08-29-12, 10:10 PM
AWESOME! I've always wanted one of these.

There should have been a Lincoln-branded and rebodied version called the Mark IX. It is, after all, a topless Lincoln LS.



The purple Neiman Marcus edition sold out in two hours.

http://f.images.boldride.com/ford/thumbnails/654.436.ford-thunderbird-neiman-marcus-1306373973-1314.jpg

I recall making such a commenr when they first came out as well, due to the historic Thunderbird/Mark relationship. Not really too big a fan of these. I have considered buying one for my Mum one day, whenever she needs her next car. I recall she always liked them and I believe it makes a good "little old lady car". It would however be the smallest car she has ever had (I know this, because she did not drive prior to my birth and I know the entire list thus far) Also, the only coupe.

MotownPimp
08-30-12, 02:41 AM
Here is what a T-Bird is supposed to look like:

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CadillacLuke24
08-30-12, 04:21 AM
There's a couple early 60s examples around here. I'll have to take some pics and post to the LDIYA thread.

Shoot, in general Laramie has a LOT of cool old cars.

ted tcb
08-30-12, 12:04 PM
Here is what a T-Bird is supposed to look like:

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Beautiful car, 1962-66 models are my favorite Birds of all time, style wise.

Driving wise, people who have owned them tell me they were too softly sprung and heavy.
I've never had the privilege of driving one.

hueterm
08-30-12, 12:48 PM
The bullet bird started in '61, actually. My dad had one from like '85-'08 -- a red '62 hardtop w/white interior and A/C.

It was a beautiful car, but it really didn't drive very well. It was very floaty and had zero on center feel to the steering. It was definitely a boulevard cruiser -- not one for the two lane twisties...

MotownPimp
08-30-12, 03:45 PM
My T-Bird, above, was a 1962. 61,62,63 were identical except for the chrome trim. Definately not a canyon craver; I used my 650 BSA Lightning to satisfy the need for speed.

brandondeleo
08-30-12, 04:24 PM
If we hadn't come across this Bird, I would've purchased a Sebring Limited convertible, likely a 2006.
If you were going to get into a second gen, that's exactly what I'd recommend... The 2.7L's sludge issues were largely taken care of by then, and though it wasn't quite as good of a car as the first gen, it was still a good car. My 2004 was an absolutely phenomenal car, almost perfect. (The third gen is where they massively screwed up...) I guess it makes sense that it was in the running, considering it's a big soft luxury cruiser like the T-Bird. If you're going to use the car as a personal cruiser just to enjoy the open air and it's not your daily driver, I think the T-Bird is the better choice because it's more unique and it's got more power. The Sebring would be the more practical choice, especially if you carry passengers sometimes. For your appliction I think you made the right decision.

Aron9000
09-01-12, 03:42 AM
I'm going to be a hater here and say the Accord was a SIGNFICANTLY better looking car. But if your wife likes it, that's all that matters. Happy wife, happy life.

truckinman
09-01-12, 09:33 AM
I'm going to be a hater here and say the Accord was a SIGNFICANTLY better looking car. But if your wife likes it, that's all that matters. Happy wife, happy life.

LOL! I actually feel the same way. On both counts. The accord was better looking but happy wife = happy life. Lol.

Jesda
09-01-12, 10:21 AM
I'm going to be a hater here and say the Accord was a SIGNFICANTLY better looking car. But if your wife likes it, that's all that matters. Happy wife, happy life.

Blargh. The Accord was neutral, which is worse than being a bit homely.

I~LUV~Caddys8792
09-01-12, 10:55 PM
I kinda liked the 2003 Accords until they redesigned them to the current body style, now that is awful!

ryannel2003
09-01-12, 11:28 PM
I kinda liked the 2003 Accords until they redesigned them to the current body style, now that is awful!

I like the '03-'07 body style but I also enjoy the newest one as well. I'd be between that, Optima or the new Altima if I was in the market.

orconn
09-02-12, 12:00 AM
I like the '03-'07 body style but I also enjoy the newest one as well. I'd be between that, Optima or the new Altima if I was in the market.


^^^ How do you tell them apart, pray tell?

Playdrv4me
09-02-12, 12:00 AM
Newest accord coupe is certainly the most... interesting... thing on wheels in that category right now. I guess if you must go that route, it works.

orconn
09-02-12, 12:06 AM
New accord coupe looks great, but I couldn't deal with "boom box" dashboard.