: If Elvis were alive...



Elvis
08-21-12, 01:18 PM
I think he would be driving an XLR.

Hello again everyone! Just thought I'd drop in for a visit. :bouncy: I am a CHARTER MEMBER! I joined about three days after Sal got everything up and running in January of 2003.

I hope that there is a big TENTH ANNIVERSARY PARTY in the works!!!

:dance::banana::cheers::cake::drink2::rockon::chee r:

:nanaparty::nanaparty::nanaparty:

It recently occurred to me that in a little over 700 days, I'll hit the big FIVE-OH!

This means that I will soon be in need of a mid-life crisis vehicle. Unfortunately, there is a budget. My research has narrowed the list down to four possibilities:

1) Mercedes SL500, 2004-2005 with < 60,000 miles

2) Cadillac XLR 2004-2006 < 50,000 miles (Can't afford a V)

3) Corvette 1997-2004 < 50,000 miles (Prices are better in this range, and I like pop-up headlights)

4) Thunderbird 2002-2005 (Sorry, I've always loved T-Birds and always will)

Anyway, I'm researching the XLR and figured, what better place to find out what will go wrong with one than right here!!!

So, hello to everyone old and new, not sure if I'll be staying on for long or not, but I sure did have a lot of fun on here between 2003-2007, that's for sure!

CadillacLuke24
08-21-12, 03:00 PM
Glad you stopped by :D AFAIK, the XLR is a well built car, and I haven't heard of any recurring problems. I'll let the owners on here take it from here :D

orconn
08-21-12, 05:05 PM
Given Elvis's choice in cars when he was a live I doubt any of the cars you have listed would ahve been his cup of tea. He was much more into flamboyant "luxury" capable of carrying several of his friends, than into two seat GT cars!

But given your list to choose from I'd bet he would choose the Thunderbird.

brandondeleo
08-21-12, 05:26 PM
But given your list to choose from I'd bet he would choose the Thunderbird.
I agree.

brandondeleo
08-21-12, 06:03 PM
Elvis in 2004:

http://www.ridelust.com/wp-content/uploads/2004_ford_thunderbird.jpg

Rolex
08-21-12, 10:42 PM
Good to see you again.

Here's an Elvis tune that I had never heard before 2 days ago. It's on my iTunes playlist now.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGHPku_XIu0

EChas3
08-21-12, 11:59 PM
Elvis was never cheap. I think he would have bought a few of those DTS Convertables converted in Florida.

I don't see him in a Ford. Even a T-Bird.

Elvis
08-22-12, 12:42 AM
Hey Rolex! I like the video. I think I remember seeing it once, something about that tambourine girl's hat was familiar.

Just to clarify for everyone, i'm not a huge Elvis fan, but I am near Memphis and have long coveted his car collection.

I agree, The real Elvis would definitely had a pink T-Bird. But that XLR would have gotten his attention. From what I've read, I shouldn't even consider an XLR older than 2006, and that may be out of my price range. I'm surprised that the XLR holds its value better than the SL500, but the active hydraulic suspension on 2003-2005 Mercedes was problem ridden.

So as of tonight, the new front runner is a corvette coupe. But I'm still reading and learning. I guess they all have their little quirks and problems. What worthwhile mistress wasn't at least a little temperamental once a month, right?

Oh--one car I've removed from the list is the Z4. My wife has a Z3, and the dealership is impossible to work with. Otherwise, I like it a lot.

brandondeleo
08-22-12, 03:52 AM
Elvis was never cheap. I think he would have bought a few of those DTS Convertables converted in Florida.

Now that's what's up. :cool:

The-Dullahan
08-22-12, 02:31 PM
This may just be me being old hat, here, but I think if Elvis were still alive today, there is no reason he would have to buy a car built in the last ten years if he did not want to. I mean, I'm alive in the present time, but with the exception of my beater, I don't have anything contemporary, nor have I the desire to buy one at the present time. Maybe when my beater finally dies.

Kev
08-22-12, 02:43 PM
Elvis never really "had" to buy any car but he seemed to enjoy buying them and would sometimes buy new cars for complete strangers at the same time. I immagine he would be interested in quite a few of the newer, fancier models. Of course, he was known to be particularly fond of Cadillacs.

orconn
08-22-12, 03:38 PM
Let's face it Elvis would be the first to sign up for a Ciel if he were still around! He was right at the front of the line when Ford was only letting celebrities buy Continental Mark II's back in 1956. And I understand his white Continental Mark II is still in the Graceland collection. He also gravitated to the less exclusive Eldorados of that period and kept on buying them until his death. He may have had two seaters, but most of the pictures one sees have him in a car with at least a back seat!

If Elvis were alive today car manufacturers would be paying him to drive their "luxury" models, or at the very least make the cars available at a very steep discount. However, I have gotten the impression that Elvis thoroughly enjoyed the "process" of buying cars from local dealerships .... even those in towns where he was performing!

A lot of folks don't realize that Elvis was almost broke when he died, and that the fortune that his foundation and his heirs enjoy today has come from prudent licensing of his music and name.

talismandave
08-23-12, 01:41 AM
If Elvis were alive today he wouldn't be able to get in or out of any of the cars on your list. I can't imagine that anything made since the end of RWD American luxury cars would interest him much. I think he would be in a Rolls or Bentley and be watching to see if the Ciel make production. Or perhaps bought a Sixteen show car!

Aron9000
08-23-12, 01:56 AM
I could imagine Elvis being a Bentley man. I'm sure he'd have some sort of crazy custom Continental GT back when they came out 10 years ago. I still see him as more of an Azure or Arnage man though. I'm sure he'd be first in line to buy the new Brooklands.

http://static.autoblog.nl/images/wp2008/Bentley%20Brooklands%20gespot1.jpg

orconn
08-23-12, 02:01 AM
^^^ Gee, those wheels really look crappy on that Arnage coupe! Ghetto Bentley, what has the wirld come to?

Playdrv4me
08-24-12, 05:53 AM
XLR all the way. And you'd actually be surprised how cheap XLR-Vs have gotten. I almost bought one several months ago for 32k with 60k miles.

Johnxlrv
08-24-12, 09:38 AM
XLR all the way. And you'd actually be surprised how cheap XLR-Vs have gotten. I almost bought one several months ago for 32k with 60k miles.

Agreed, the xlr has rekindled my interest for a second...for the wife...say a cts

But it does make you wonder what Elvis would have thought about those angular lines...or anybody if you jump 25 years

I was lucky to find a unmolested V, the problem with the xlr is the numbers...not that many and most are falling off warranty. I am waiting for a slightly used wagon lol

Elvis
08-24-12, 09:56 PM
Interesting comments, gentlemen!

One thing people may not have considered, Elvis was so poor, and so embarrassed about it, it's likely he chose Cadillac because the dealer was nice to him that first time. He did that with a lot of retail stores in Memphis.

BTW, I read some bad things about the C5 Vettes, particularly WRT ride quality. The XLR stuff I'm reading scares me almost as bad as the SL500 suspension problems. The TBird is looking really good right now. I can get a good one for under $20k, then install new intake, headers, exhaust, and chip for less than $2k. I'd have a real sleeper on my hands. Just something I'm thinking about.

Playdrv4me
08-25-12, 03:25 AM
Interesting comments, gentlemen!

One thing people may not have considered, Elvis was so poor, and so embarrassed about it, it's likely he chose Cadillac because the dealer was nice to him that first time. He did that with a lot of retail stores in Memphis.

BTW, I read some bad things about the C5 Vettes, particularly WRT ride quality. The XLR stuff I'm reading scares me almost as bad as the SL500 suspension problems. The TBird is looking really good right now. I can get a good one for under $20k, then install new intake, headers, exhaust, and chip for less than $2k. I'd have a real sleeper on my hands. Just something I'm thinking about.

That's a beautiful car but dear LORD that interior just doesn't match the beauty of the exterior. Unlike the Corvette, this is a special car where it was SUPPOSED to matter. You get in and it goes from beauty to base Lincoln LS from 2001.

Aron9000
08-25-12, 08:08 AM
Interesting comments, gentlemen!

One thing people may not have considered, Elvis was so poor, and so embarrassed about it, it's likely he chose Cadillac because the dealer was nice to him that first time. He did that with a lot of retail stores in Memphis.

BTW, I read some bad things about the C5 Vettes, particularly WRT ride quality. The XLR stuff I'm reading scares me almost as bad as the SL500 suspension problems. The TBird is looking really good right now. I can get a good one for under $20k, then install new intake, headers, exhaust, and chip for less than $2k. I'd have a real sleeper on my hands. Just something I'm thinking about.

What the hell is "WRT ride quality?"

I've ridden in base model C4, C5, and C6 Vettes. I found the ride to be pretty darn good in all three, considering they are sports cars. Both the C4 and C5 were loud on the highway with tire noise, the C6 was a lot better in that aspect. The C4 did tend to squeak/groan when you hit a bump, but it was just heard, you didn't so much as feel it.

Elvis
09-10-12, 06:15 PM
That's a beautiful car but dear LORD that interior just doesn't match the beauty of the exterior. Unlike the Corvette, this is a special car where it was SUPPOSED to matter. You get in and it goes from beauty to base Lincoln LS from 2001.

You are absolutely correct. That may be one of the many reasons this car is not catching on in the collector market ten years on. The only thing special about it is how it looks from 20 feet away.

I'm seeing a lot of TBirds with less than 10K miles advertised, and these people are all taking a $15,000 bath on what they thought would be a good investment. Of course, I'm sure that the bottom fell out of the market for a lot of collector cars, not just this one. Who knew the economy would crash in '08? Certainly not car people.

Elvis
09-10-12, 06:16 PM
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Elvis
09-10-12, 06:21 PM
What the hell is "WRT ride quality?"

I've ridden in base model C4, C5, and C6 Vettes. I found the ride to be pretty darn good in all three, considering they are sports cars. Both the C4 and C5 were loud on the highway with tire noise, the C6 was a lot better in that aspect. The C4 did tend to squeak/groan when you hit a bump, but it was just heard, you didn't so much as feel it.

WRT just means "with regard to"

I've never ridden in any of those vettes. The only ones I've ever been in were late 70's models, particularly a silver anniversary (1978?) that a friend's mother owned. Not much fun.

The prices are definitely right on C5 Vettes, and I love the look and the interior. I hear that the C6 ride is really good but they're out of my price range.

Lord Cadillac
09-10-12, 06:37 PM
Wow! How did I miss this? Welcome back, Elvis!! :p

Elvis
09-29-12, 10:52 AM
Wow! How did I miss this? Welcome back, Elvis!! :p

Hey Sal! Sorry I missed you! It's nice to be back, if only briefly. This is still my favorite automotive community, and I've been an active member of about five over the past fifteen years or so. Now I'm "DogFather" on Thunderbirdnest, so that will make six.

Well, this situation has been resolved! On Wednesday I bought a 2002 Thunderbird with only 41,461 one owner miles on her. She is my "long cool woman in a black dress" previously owned by a pharmaceutical exec who is now 73 years old. Aside from a few fixable scratches, chips, and dings, she looks great.

I would post a pic, but black is the most common color for TBirds, and this one is nothing special. About 31000 birds hatched in 2002, and between 2002-05 there were around 67,500 hatchlings. A little under a fourth of them were black like mine. Even with taxes and fees, I paid less than KBB trade-in value, so there are some deals to be had out there if anyone else is interested in crossing over to the dark side like me.

She floats and bounces like any other Lincoln would, and considering that the TBird is really only a shortened Lincoln LS, it makes sense. The 3.9L engine came from Jaguar, and it gives quite a kick between 50-80mph. My version puts out 252HP, the 2003-05 version is rated at 280HP. My understanding is that a new intake, exhaust, and chip will add between 50-60 HP. We'll see.

Today and tomorrow she gets my full detailing treatment. Dawn, claybar, dawn again, swirl compound, scratch compound where needed, chip filling & touch-up, glaze, and finally wax. She should look like new by Monday. The roof hoist should arrive by Thursday, and next weekend I'll be cruising aroud town TOPLESS!

I cosidered the Corvette, XLR, and SL500, but decided against all because of simple maintenance costs. And this cost about $10,000 less out the door. I was kidding myself when I thought I could handle those other three. The cost of replacing just the tires is enough of a differnce to turn me away from them.

Best of luck to everyone in the Cadillac world! It was good to touch bases with you again.

HAPPY TENTH ANNIVERSARY!!!

Playdrv4me
09-30-12, 07:14 AM
And just like that, the lounge ends up with TWO final gen T-Birds after having none... ever (Ted has one, too).

Congrats!

ted tcb
09-30-12, 10:21 AM
Congrats on the bird ... did I see you post about it over at Thunderbirdnest?
Yours has about half my mileage, so well done!
People don't realize how much fun these cars are until they actually drive them.

I put the hardtop on for the winter last week .... its like having a totally different car.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n243/tedtcb/OliviaNewtonJohnCasinoRamaSep2012001.jpg

Elvis
10-01-12, 07:06 PM
Wow! Playdrv4me is STILL HERE! That should tell everyone what a cool place this is. I come back after being gone for 4-5 years. You're still here, I even saw Jesda posting the other day.

Yeah, Ted, that was me introducing myself over at the nest. Just about every question you could ever imagine has already been asked and answered, so there hasn't been any need for me to post anything. I guess that's the nice thing about buying a 10-year-old car with a cult following. I just lurk and read over there for hours at a time.

My only complaint so far is road noise at 70-75 mph. It's just a dull roar coming from behind the seat. I did some extensive sound deadening on a 2000 Honda Prelude I used to own and it made a difference. I may try that out over the wintertime.

And let me say, that is a beautiful bird you've got there. (I guess they all are, right?)

Playdrv4me
10-01-12, 07:42 PM
Wow! Playdrv4me is STILL HERE! That should tell everyone what a cool place this is. I come back after being gone for 4-5 years. You're still here, I even saw Jesda posting the other day.

Yeah, Ted, that was me introducing myself over at the nest. Just about every question you could ever imagine has already been asked and answered, so there hasn't been any need for me to post anything. I guess that's the nice thing about buying a 10-year-old car with a cult following. I just lurk and read over there for hours at a time.

My only complaint so far is road noise at 70-75 mph. It's just a dull roar coming from behind the seat. I did some extensive sound deadening on a 2000 Honda Prelude I used to own and it made a difference. I may try that out over the wintertime.

And let me say, that is a beautiful bird you've got there. (I guess they all are, right?)

Indeed, I still remember when you bought that Expedition Limited! Good to see it's still around. T-Bird looks great, it should give you years of enjoyment.

ted tcb
10-01-12, 07:56 PM
Great looking Bird. I love the OEM chrome wheels.
My car is also loud at higher speeds, but I attribute it to the car coming with 4 new snow tires installed.
I'll store it for the winter, then buy some quiet summer tires in April.

She goes in for Krown Rust Control oiling tomorrow.
I had to re dye the teal seat inserts, and have my paint guy correct some spider cracks on the front
bumper. I also dumped the crummy oem stereo.

Enjoy the ride ... yes, I could see Elvis rockin' a black Retro Bird.

Elvis
10-02-12, 11:03 AM
Indeed, I still remember when you bought that Expedition Limited! Good to see it's still around. T-Bird looks great, it should give you years of enjoyment.

The Expedition just turned 65,000 miles last month. That's right at 9,000 miles a year. Now with the TBird it will probably only get about 4,000 miles a year. Should last forever. Still smells new!

Elvis
10-02-12, 11:12 AM
Great looking Bird. I love the OEM chrome wheels.
My car is also loud at higher speeds, but I attribute it to the car coming with 4 new snow tires installed.
I'll store it for the winter, then buy some quiet summer tires in April.

She goes in for Krown Rust Control oiling tomorrow.
I had to re dye the teal seat inserts, and have my paint guy correct some spider cracks on the front
bumper. I also dumped the crummy oem stereo.

Enjoy the ride ... yes, I could see Elvis rockin' a black Retro Bird.

Thanks, I really am. Right now, in my eyes it's a work of art.

dkozloski
10-02-12, 02:44 PM
If Elvis were alive I'd bury him anyway. He couldn't sing, dance, or act. All he could do was stand there and spaz.

brandondeleo
10-02-12, 04:02 PM
If Elvis were alive I'd bury him anyway. He couldn't sing, dance, or act. All he could do was stand there and spaz.
:yeah: