Does anyone know? Have an educated guess?
I get the impression that the Cadillac wagon is not successful enough to see another generation, either in ATS or CTS, so the current CTS-V wagon will be the last of its kind.
It's on my short list, along with the 2014 Corvette and the future ATS-V. I know we'll see the next Vette in January; the ATS-V could be shortly thereafter or more than a year away for all I know, but I'm really just waiting for positive ID on the engine. (V8, sold; no V8, no sale.)
Main thing is I don't want to miss the window for a CTS-V wagon, and I know I'm going to have to order one to get the M6.
Any solid intel is appreciated.
08-17-12, 05:54 PM
Are you sure? I've seen more Vagon's here in Calgary than Voupes (heh, I tried, V Coupe)...
Not sure, just not expectant. I bet there won't be a third-gen CTS coupe either. ATS is getting a coupe if Peter Delorenzo is to be believed, and I'd bet on a V of that. I know conventional wisdom is that you need a wagon in Europe, but will Cadillac make the investment a second time? Even if they do, will it be on a platform whose V gets a wicked V8?
I've seen but one sport wagon (not V) round these parts, but many coupes (some V). This makes it very hard to be optimistic about a near-term future wagon.
08-17-12, 06:14 PM
ATS coupe yes, CTS coupe very likely, CTS wagon not likely.
08-17-12, 06:21 PM
where are you guys getting your info?
i remember there being plans for coupe and convertible ATS originally but then those plans getting tabled (possibly for later)
i have heard nothing about any 3rd Gen CTS coupe or wagon - only that the sedan will probably be the only bodystyle
all this could change though since as far as I know there has been no confirm/deny from cadillac
Not to derail the thread, but does anyone have an idea of what total production of the 2011-2013 Vagons will be???
My google-fu fails to find any CTS production figures, much less wagons, much less Vagons. Though I could swear I found a figure of 446 Vagons as of March 2012 when I looked a few weeks ago. Can't find it now. Maybe it was a fever dream.
08-19-12, 10:26 PM
Nothing under Vagons, but 2,742 CTS-V wagons is what I found.
08-20-12, 04:12 PM
Motor Trend quoted the 446ish number for cumulative 11 and 12 V wagon production when they did the comparison against the AMG wagon. You can only guess what the total will be as it's only limited by how many crazy people order them.
08-20-12, 04:19 PM
I do know someone that found this out as far as sedan production goes.
"There were 2,010 CTS-V sedans built in 2012MY, and only 57 were Opulent Blue RPO code GTR."
I asked for a wagon number and was told to give them a couple months to wait for the ATS launch activity to calm down.