: When will CTS-V wagon production end?



Jinx
08-17-12, 04:50 PM
Does anyone know? Have an educated guess?

I get the impression that the Cadillac wagon is not successful enough to see another generation, either in ATS or CTS, so the current CTS-V wagon will be the last of its kind.

It's on my short list, along with the 2014 Corvette and the future ATS-V. I know we'll see the next Vette in January; the ATS-V could be shortly thereafter or more than a year away for all I know, but I'm really just waiting for positive ID on the engine. (V8, sold; no V8, no sale.)

Main thing is I don't want to miss the window for a CTS-V wagon, and I know I'm going to have to order one to get the M6.

Any solid intel is appreciated.

.Jinx

Zhariak
08-17-12, 04:54 PM
Wait,

Are you sure? I've seen more Vagon's here in Calgary than Voupes (heh, I tried, V Coupe)...

Jinx
08-17-12, 05:07 PM
Not sure, just not expectant. I bet there won't be a third-gen CTS coupe either. ATS is getting a coupe if Peter Delorenzo is to be believed, and I'd bet on a V of that. I know conventional wisdom is that you need a wagon in Europe, but will Cadillac make the investment a second time? Even if they do, will it be on a platform whose V gets a wicked V8?

I've seen but one sport wagon (not V) round these parts, but many coupes (some V). This makes it very hard to be optimistic about a near-term future wagon.

.Jinx

larry arizona
08-17-12, 05:14 PM
ATS coupe yes, CTS coupe very likely, CTS wagon not likely.

RippyPartsDept
08-17-12, 05:21 PM
where are you guys getting your info?

i remember there being plans for coupe and convertible ATS originally but then those plans getting tabled (possibly for later)

i have heard nothing about any 3rd Gen CTS coupe or wagon - only that the sedan will probably be the only bodystyle

all this could change though since as far as I know there has been no confirm/deny from cadillac

FLTRI
08-19-12, 11:41 AM
Not to derail the thread, but does anyone have an idea of what total production of the 2011-2013 Vagons will be???

Jinx
08-19-12, 03:46 PM
My google-fu fails to find any CTS production figures, much less wagons, much less Vagons. Though I could swear I found a figure of 446 Vagons as of March 2012 when I looked a few weeks ago. Can't find it now. Maybe it was a fever dream.

baabootoo
08-19-12, 09:26 PM
Nothing under Vagons, but 2,742 CTS-V wagons is what I found.

Jinx
08-20-12, 12:08 AM
Where'd you find it?

V Wagon
08-20-12, 03:12 PM
Motor Trend quoted the 446ish number for cumulative 11 and 12 V wagon production when they did the comparison against the AMG wagon. You can only guess what the total will be as it's only limited by how many crazy people order them.

V Wagon
08-20-12, 03:19 PM
I do know someone that found this out as far as sedan production goes.

"There were 2,010 CTS-V sedans built in 2012MY, and only 57 were Opulent Blue RPO code GTR."

I asked for a wagon number and was told to give them a couple months to wait for the ATS launch activity to calm down.

cgperry
04-07-14, 11:35 AM
Hi all. I'm new to the forum but can't find the answer I'm looking for, so I'm bumping this old thread.

Does anyone know if Cadillac has given dealers a firm cutoff date for new orders for a 2014 CTS-V Wagon? I'm interested but have some hoops to jump through at work to make it happen and am wondering how much lead time I have. I'm assuming they would shut down production around summertime, but that's just an assumption based on past experience. I'd really like to know if any dealers have been given a hard cutoff date. Mine doesn't know, but then again they want to sell a car, so they're always going to push for an immediate order.

Thanks for any information you can share!

tinman
04-07-14, 12:31 PM
Can't help you with the exact information you need. However, there is a dealer in the Tampa area who has 12 Vagons on the floor. 12! Most with 6MT, too!

elphil
04-07-14, 12:50 PM
Can't help you with the exact information you need. However, there is a dealer in the Tampa area who has 12 Vagons on the floor. 12! Most with 6MT, too!

Now shows 15 V-Wagons : http://www.tropicalcadillac.com/VehicleSearchResults?search=new&make=cadillac&minYear=2013&cs:pro=cgt2&cs:dma=539&cs:loc=en_US&cs:s=gmps-tropical-fl&cs:e=g&cs:gn=s&cs:cid=36174810136&cs:kw=%2Btropical%20%2Bcadillac&cs:kt=94002U0100&mkwid=sGeoUSwP9&pcrid=36174810136&pkw=%2Btropical%20%2Bcadillac&pmt=b&pdv=c&gclid=COm-tZHqzr0CFc1cfgodDWYAEA

Go to model and click V-Wagons.

Jinx
04-07-14, 01:26 PM
IIRC April 21, if the dealer has allocation. Otherwise you are already too late.

gohawks63
04-07-14, 01:41 PM
IIRC April 21, if the dealer has allocation. Otherwise you are already too late.

I think. You're too late anyway based on. The last post in this thread.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2009-2014-cadillac-cts-v-general/482649-2014-cadillac-cts-v-production-info-2.html#post12269121

GM-4-LIFE
04-07-14, 02:36 PM
March 21 was the cutoff for V Wagon orders. If you want a V Wagon, you now have to find them on the ground at a dealer. 2015 model year V will be the carry over V Coupe body style with a few exterior aesthetic changes only. Nothing major.

vfaninva
04-07-14, 04:21 PM
March 21 was the cutoff for V Wagon orders. If you want a V Wagon, you now have to find them on the ground at a dealer. 2015 model year V will be the carry over V Coupe body style with a few exterior aesthetic changes only. Nothing major.

What changes?

GM-4-LIFE
04-07-14, 06:11 PM
What changes?

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-news-concepts-future-models-rumors/487737-looks-like-there-may-2015-v.html

I outlined all new changes and options here.

vfaninva
04-07-14, 08:56 PM
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-news-concepts-future-models-rumors/487737-looks-like-there-may-2015-v.html

I outlined all new changes and options here.

Thanks Shawn. I remembered the post but somehow missed the details you included.
I wonder if the Abalone white will have a more pearlescent appearance than the white diamond.

FLTRI
04-07-14, 09:57 PM
I hope it's not that sickly yellowish white they used to put on the Escalade's... :bonkers:

GM-4-LIFE
04-07-14, 10:28 PM
We'll find out once the colors are on cars on dealer lots.

The phantom gray frost will most likely be a $4K up charge for the paint like the silver frost V Coupes were during the 2013 model year. I am sure GM will announce the 2015 model year changes soon.

Jinx
04-08-14, 07:06 PM
I'm surprised they're doing another frost. My dealer had a hard time selling his. The paint seems so delicate...

GM-4-LIFE
04-08-14, 09:53 PM
I'm surprised they're doing another frost. My dealer had a hard time selling his. The paint seems so delicate...

They sold out like crazy out here in California. The phantom gray frost should look awesome! It's something special for the last year of the V Coupe. We all thought 2014 would be the last year of the V Coupe. It may be a short limited time run.

Jinx
04-09-14, 10:56 AM
Must be a Socal thing. Up here in California that car sat and sat and they rued ordering it.

tinman
04-09-14, 11:07 AM
My dealer here won't order (wouldn't order) any MT V's for his lot. If you wanted to order a car with a MT you needed a substantial down payment to make it happen. I wonder what would have happened it I tried to order a manual V with Frost. Cash up front?

StoneCrab
04-09-14, 11:46 AM
My dealer here won't order (wouldn't order) any MT V's for his lot. If you wanted to order a car with a MT you needed a substantial down payment to make it happen. I wonder what would have happened it I tried to order a manual V with Frost. Cash up front?

My dealer is the same. They figure a MT V (any body style) is such a niche vehicle they would have a hard time selling it. I actually think a MT V as a stock order would be easier to sell as the people that want the MT will seek them out, whereas an auto is everywhere. I'd compromise on color and some options, but not MT if that's what I wanted.

FLTRI
04-09-14, 12:24 PM
Every dealer is different. Mine won't order a gray interior, every V they have in stock has a black interior. He had to do a trade with a dealer in Boston to get me a black wagon, with a gray interior. They usually have 4-5 V's on the floor at any one time, and at least one is usually an M6...