: 2 V-Lab cars going to auction



Junior1
08-06-12, 03:20 PM
Stumbled upon these...

Both built in 6/2010 with low miles. They were used for the Cadillac V-Labs (stickers are still on them)
1 Coupe and 1 Sedan, both have salvage titles out of MI. They are listed as "non highway use" so you need to be a dealer/scrap yard to bid. I don't think they were pilot cars since they have VINs but nontheless they are showing as not for road use...

https://www.iaai.com/Vehicles/VehicleDetails.aspx?auctionID=12252712&itemID=13126617&RowNumber=30
https://www.iaai.com/Vehicles/VehicleDetails.aspx?auctionID=12252843&itemID=13126619&RowNumber=31

smackdownCTSV
08-06-12, 04:23 PM
WTF does the dealer do to enable them to be used on the road/highway use?

JBsZ06
08-06-12, 04:31 PM
I bet they are the cars we drove at various racetracks at cadillacs invitation

Junior1
08-06-12, 04:38 PM
WTF does the dealer do to enable them to be used on the road/highway use?

I think they have it setup that way so the public cannot bid on them to ensure they get parted out...

Junior1
08-06-12, 04:39 PM
I bet they are the cars we drove at various racetracks at cadillacs invitation

I recognized them right away. Which is why I said they were used at the V-Labs, the stickers and numbers for the cars are still on them...

smackdownCTSV
08-06-12, 04:55 PM
I think they have it setup that way so the public cannot bid on them to ensure they get parted out...

They don't get parted out, they get purchased for $30K-$35K and resold for $40K+. The dealer doesn't change the brakes, tires, or oil.

thebigjimsho
08-06-12, 05:30 PM
I just want a damn diff cooler!

Mikevette
08-06-12, 06:58 PM
Yes these are V-Lab V that we drove during our events. They will be a steal who ever can get a bro from a dealership to purchase either of these V for you. Yeah they were used as intended, but after attending a V lab event these cars were limited to 100 mph on big tracks. I did Road Atlanta and touch the 140 mark but it was brought to my attention by my instructor no faster than 100!! These cars were maintained by the caddie staff to ensure they performed as a super car should. Now the caddie I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole is those basic CTS V-6 coupes that we beat the dog snart out of. They were the drag race, max braking and abrupt lane change drills!! We just hammer these cars like red head step chrilden. If you get one of these V you'll be fine, hell it will be broken in for sure!!

just my .02
Mike P.

DRL650
08-06-12, 07:47 PM
Why does it say salvage?
Stock# :9921750
Sale Document :SALVAGE(Michigan)
Notes :IS A CD NOT FOR HIGHWAY

smackdownCTSV
08-07-12, 12:18 AM
Because it doesn't have a warranty given the "abuse" at the V-Labs. Unlikely it was in an accident.

Junior1
08-07-12, 03:27 AM
Gotta agree that these cars weren't pushed hard at all.
I've been to the Caddy Labs 2-3 times and even though they recognized me and were able to clear traffic on track it still wasn't full out laps...

IF they are listed as "non highway use" because of the warranty, then thats fine. But I can't see why.
Same for the salvage title. MI gives it a salvage title because there is no warranty? Or is it salvage because it was an M car?
The cars coming out of Bondurant (Z06, Camaro SS) are being sold clean title, just warranty blocked. Same as the old Monticello cars. But those were privately owned.

thebigjimsho
08-07-12, 09:30 AM
First Lab I went to you could go as fast as you wanted.

Since it was my first time in a V2(they weren't even available for sale yet) and first time at Monticello, I "only" hit 125...

DRL650
08-07-12, 09:11 PM
I see but does the title say salvaged?If so no bank loan?

TiredIronGRB
12-04-12, 10:29 PM
I think I have the sedan, did anyone save the pictures?

TiredIronGRB
12-05-12, 11:56 AM
Did any of you guys get pictures of the V-Lab cars, I'm pretty sure mine is one of the Michigan cars. You can still see a little of the adhesive where the decals were (yes I need to clean and wax it good).

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g365/TiredIronGRB/2011%20Cadillac%20CTS-V/EEC6BB55-4AE7-45CE-ACA7-2048D39635DB-4426-00000E6C081E5FCC.jpg

CoppeR
12-05-12, 03:54 PM
ehh, i would stay away from these cars. Numerous posts on this.

TiredIronGRB
12-05-12, 04:03 PM
ehh, i would stay away from these cars. Numerous posts on this.

Really, where? This is the only thread I've found.

Mine had 2700 miles when GM sold it and the paperwork read "Sold as salvage to void warranty". It runs and drives flawlessly, other than wear on the passenger side tires from track use it looks like a new car.

Rule12b
12-06-12, 03:41 PM
I have to say, I'm looking for another opportunity to pick up one of the V-lab coupes at auction. I see no real reason to avoid them, especially with what I have in mind for the car.

CoppeR
12-07-12, 04:56 PM
Really, where? This is the only thread I've found.



http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2009-cadillac-cts-v-general-discussion/263263-looking-getting-v-question.html

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2009-cadillac-cts-v-performance-mods/235053-thought-i-found-nice-2009-cts.html

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2009-cadillac-cts-v-general-discussion/237341-sale-price-2009-cts-v-good.html

If ur gonna gut it and turn it into a race car i guess they're a good deal.

Mike02z
12-07-12, 05:06 PM
I have to say, I'm looking for another opportunity to pick up one of the V-lab coupes at auction. I see no real reason to avoid them, especially with what I have in mind for the car.

I agree. No one is going to beat the snot out of a V more than I will. Besides, when you buy a used V how do you know it has not been abused? You don't. At least you know they kept the maintenance up on these cars.

I have bought many salvaged title cars and never had an issue with any of them. I knew what I was getting into before purchasing. I just picked up a 1993 Anniversary Corvette with 35K miles and a salvage title. It was sold as a salvage for "Irreparable Electrical issues". It was just a bad ground. So I got a 10K car for 3K dollars and it cost me no money to fix and only a few hours to find the issue. Salvaged title cars are not for everyone. Especially those that have been in wrecks. There are many other reasons cars are "Salvaged" and I would have no fear of buying another. Even a car used in a driving school. To each his own.

TiredIronGRB
12-07-12, 06:37 PM
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2009-cadillac-cts-v-general-discussion/263263-looking-getting-v-question.html

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2009-cadillac-cts-v-performance-mods/235053-thought-i-found-nice-2009-cts.html

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2009-cadillac-cts-v-general-discussion/237341-sale-price-2009-cts-v-good.html

If ur gonna gut it and turn it into a race car i guess they're a good deal.

Thanks for the links, sounds like the Monticello cars with high miles are the ones to stay away from. Mine was a V-Lab car (2011 Sedan) and only had 2,700 miles on it, I only have $25K in it so I have some buffer if it does have issues in the future.

Junior1
12-07-12, 06:47 PM
Higher mileage Monticello cars were employee take home cars. The lower mileage ones were used for the driving experience. All of the MMC cars were given back with new brake systems from what I was told.