: Date night, What have I started?!



Brian in GA
08-05-12, 12:37 AM
Took the wife out for dinner and a ride. Her first ride in the V (2011 Coupe). After dinner we drove quietly for an hour around Atlanta, small streets at 25 MPH, the bars were starting to hop, just looking and being looked at. Very quiet night.

THEN, I pull up to a Z06 at a light. This thing is loud, low, cammed, poppin and rockin at idle, steam rollers for back tires, the vibration from the ground and my ear tells me it's fast, real fast! Wife hasn't even noticed it. I reach up and turn off the radio, push the AC off, Sport mode on and traction control is already on.

I look over my right shoulder as I creep up into position, he saw me coming. The wife looks at me because she thought I was looking at her, I nod at him, he nods back, the wife says "What"? Thinking I nodded at her.

I look forward without answering her and I lean it against the torque converter and the car rises, GREEN! I nail it, it grabs and we're off, the noise next door was deafening, my wifes head is spinning back and forth not comprehending what is happening, she is reaching for anything she can hang onto, flailing actually. He spins off the line and I grab 3 lengths, 2nd gear, 3rd gear, he's coming and it's angry!
Running out of room I show brake lights and let off. In an instant he's past me. I look over and the wife is just grinning form ear to ear!! Oh MY GOD! she says, I LOVED THAT!!

We diced 3 more times rolling 30 or 40 to ? I would get the jump and he would go around with authority. This Vette was strong, I yelled over to him, 750? and he smiled and said "about that".

I'm at 510 RW presently, adding around a hundred in two weeks.

What have I done?! The car thing....it's mine. It always has been! All my wife could talk about after that was drag racing! "So", she says, "what makes this car so fast? How does a supercharger work? How does a turbocharger work, why didn't you buy a Vette? can this car be that fast"? On and on she went, for 50 minutes all the way home.

I think I've awakened a monster inside her, Well, I thought I'd share the story tonight because I had absolutely no idea. The surprise race was awesome especially since she had no idea it was coming until it was happening, I'm not sure how I feel yet about the wife liking the experience so much but I guess it could be a lot worse.

B.

tkracing
08-05-12, 01:02 AM
Great story... Just wait. I remember doing the same years ago. Started with karting on weekends. Porsche and Jim Russell driving schools now my wife tracks a Cayman. Gets expensive.

simgolfer
08-05-12, 01:51 AM
That is an awesome story. I tried something similar with the wife recently too to show her just how quick and fast the V is. Not the same response you got. Oh well. At least I won't have to share seat time with her.

CTS4MATION
08-05-12, 02:07 AM
HAHA Great story!
Fortunately for me my wife wasnt as understanding the first time I took her for a ride in my mustang....... So I had an excuse to lose a few more pounds and removed the passanger seat all together ;)

SoCalCTSV
08-05-12, 03:46 AM
My monster is awake before I put it inside my wife.

Trapspeed
08-05-12, 08:47 AM
Well Brian, modding just got a lot easier. Well done! :thumbsup:

larry arizona
08-05-12, 09:27 AM
My wife is cool about the car thing and all but everytime I accelerate aggressively she starts punching my right arm to stop but I don't slow down but she always has a huge smile on her face. She will say stuff like I am hurting the car or you are ruining the tires, Fact is she is scared of this kind of this kind of accel. But she always asks, can we beat that car as we drive down the road. Might have to show her a street race or two.......

VinATL
08-05-12, 09:42 AM
Lucky. Mine has the exact opposite reaction.

Whats in it now, and what are you doing in 2 weeks?

Brian in GA
08-05-12, 10:00 AM
Right now it has Lingenfelter's 630 package, I took it to Vengeance 3 days after delivery so we could see where it REALLY stands so I could start making a plan.

It dyno'd at 501 RW in a 101 degree room, I'm thinking a cool day it is 510 matching Lingenfelter's dyno sheet I received with the car. The tune was a big deal though, Mike (Tuner) said he didn't find any parameter changes as I stood there. It drives like a dream and hits like a ton of bricks when you hit it.

In 2 weeks we're doing a lower pully + balancer, 18% or 9.17" with a fresh tune, I'm only making around 10 lbs of boost so we're going to 15 ish along with bringing the stock injectors up to par to handle the boost. I'll be mounting some new 305/30's Michelin SS on the rears. Thisthing already spins like crazy at 40 or 50 when kicked down with the traction control off.

After that I'm heading to Commerce for some 1/4 mile fun and Clayton for 1/2 mile runs with www.wannagofast.com at the airport in late Sept. I'd like to think I'll get to 150 on the half mile.

Gary Wells
08-05-12, 10:09 AM
Brian in GA:
Did you guys do a completely bone stock baseline run before any of the mods?
If you did, I would like to have the data for my bone stock dyno charts.

Brian in GA
08-05-12, 10:12 AM
No, I bought the car with the Lingenfelter package already installed so I do not have a baseline to share with you.

VinATL
08-05-12, 10:31 AM
I'm envious. :)

It's good to know the Vengeance guys are still a good resource. They programmed my transmission (PO), and it's good. That was 3 years ago.

Any heat mitigation parts going in? With all that boost I'd be afraid of losing the gains with timing retard. I have a bud with a TT Z06 who keeps telling me meth is the end of my heat worries. And I have a source of meth a mile from the house.

Keep us posted. Looking forward to your results. We Atlanta types should have lunch some time.

Gary Wells
08-05-12, 10:42 AM
Brian in GA:
OK, many thanks anyway.Good luck with your mods.

VinATL:
Sometimes I run with the turbo Buick clan and most of us run meth, generally a AlkyControl kit.
A buddy of mine hooked up mine about 3 years ago aznd I have never looked back.
I run about 20 lbs. of boost on the street with no issues.
I have a AlkyControl kit for my '09 CTS-V but not installed yet.
I love meth. Much less expensive than 100 octane unleaded out here, which is about $ 8.00 a gal out here now.
I think that there are plenty of V's now running meth.

Crystal Red CTS-V
08-05-12, 11:01 AM
Great story! My Z06 is definitely faster than my V, but only if driven by someone who can master the 6 speed. If I were racing myself I would choose the V and simply roll into into and GO! :)

Brian in GA
08-05-12, 11:23 AM
I'm envious. :)

It's good to know the Vengeance guys are still a good resource. They programmed my transmission (PO), and it's good. That was 3 years ago.

Any heat mitigation parts going in? With all that boost I'd be afraid of losing the gains with timing retard. I have a bud with a TT Z06 who keeps telling me meth is the end of my heat worries. And I have a source of meth a mile from the house.

Keep us posted. Looking forward to your results. We Atlanta types should have lunch some time.

I absolutely agree that we should have a get together, nothing formal. Easy, quick, cool. Meet some locals and move on till next time. Need to start a thread where all of locals will find it.

One step at a time on the mods. I'm just beginning a steep learning curve with this motor, car and mods. We touched on the cooling subject at Vengeance and I expect it to be my next mod in preperation for grand slam mods in a year or so, cam, heads, exhaust, etc....

V locity
08-05-12, 12:55 PM
Great story Brian! I love actual accounts of excitement like this!!! It seems in the teenage years these events were very common, but now few & far between.

The bonus (i think) here is that the wife might be on board with you.

Brian in GA
08-05-12, 02:02 PM
I am cautiously thankful for moments like these. As a kid, you know better because you are told so. As an adult, we actually KNOW better than to temp fate too many times or too often with the reckless abandon of the past.

On our final stretch home last night, a kid pulls up in a turbo ricer, a nice one and is giving it gas a letting off so we can hear the pop off valve sing. He points forward and I scream over to him: NOT IN A CONSTRUTION ZONE!!! He reluctantly agrees, not tonight.

Maybe he'll be more aware next time to use his head a little more and exercise a little less reckless abandon.

The terrific part is that driving this car especially on a Friday or Saturday night, they just seem to come out of the woodwork. Half the time I just smile and gently shake my head lookiing forward as if to respectfully say, thanks but you're not worth my time or the risk.

94danstang
08-05-12, 10:47 PM
I absolutely agree that we should have a get together, nothing formal. Easy, quick, cool. Meet some locals and move on till next time. Need to start a thread where all of locals will find it.

One step at a time on the mods. I'm just beginning a steep learning curve with this motor, car and mods. We touched on the cooling subject at Vengeance and I expect it to be my next mod in preperation for grand slam mods in a year or so, cam, heads, exhaust, etc....

+1 on the ATL meet up - lunch sounds like a good plan. Easy, quick, cool sounds about right.

DAN

silverstreaker
08-05-12, 10:49 PM
this is car porn and should be regulated!

V locity
08-05-12, 11:13 PM
^^^LOL... I love the articles!

1997BlackETC
08-05-12, 11:37 PM
I am very careful not to get sucked into street races. It's a very serious offense should a Law Enforcement Officer see you, you will more than likely loose your drivers license for a while depending on what state you live in. Also how would you feel if a woman in a baby carriage was crossing the street and you were doing 100 and could not stop and killed them both? I save my racing for the 1/4 mile drag track where it is safe and legal and I can compare times to know how well my car is performing, that's the smart way to race.

setherman5000
08-06-12, 02:01 AM
I totaly didn't get that reaction! The other night we were on our way home and I turned in to an industrial park and as i turned the corner i put her into a sideways drift. My wife was pissed. She just yelled "Go home!" She said I didn't have any control of the car when its sliding sideways and was pissy for the rest of the night.

silverstreaker
08-06-12, 04:17 AM
I am very careful not to get sucked into street races. It's a very serious offense should a Law Enforcement Officer see you, you will more than likely loose your drivers license for a while depending on what state you live in. Also how would you feel if a woman in a baby carriage was crossing the street and you were doing 100 and could not stop and killed them both? I save my racing for the 1/4 mile drag track where it is safe and legal and I can compare times to know how well my car is performing, that's the smart way to race.
I understand your concern but this hardly sounds like a street race. Accelerating quickly up to the speed limit is not a crime. I am much more careful after showing someone what 0-60 feels like, unfortunately, I didn't realize I was in a 25 mph zone. Although there were not pedestrians around, the officer who observed the quick acceleration did give me a ticket. The advice I would give is to be aware of your surrounding and don't break the law. a friendly jump off the line is just plain fun. Just make sure you are aware of the speed limit and that there are pedestrians around.

silverstreaker
08-06-12, 04:19 AM
I am very careful not to get sucked into street races. It's a very serious offense should a Law Enforcement Officer see you, you will more than likely loose your drivers license for a while depending on what state you live in. Also how would you feel if a woman in a baby carriage was crossing the street and you were doing 100 and could not stop and killed them both? I save my racing for the 1/4 mile drag track where it is safe and legal and I can compare times to know how well my car is performing, that's the smart way to race.
I understand your concern but this hardly sounds like a street race. Accelerating quickly up to the speed limit is not a crime. I am much more careful after showing someone what 0-60 feels like, unfortunately, I didn't realize I was in a 25 mph zone. Although there were not pedestrians around, the officer who observed the quick acceleration did give me a ticket. The advice I would give is to be aware of your surrounding and don't break the law. a friendly jump off the line is just plain fun. Just make sure you are aware of the speed limit and that there are pedestrians around.

Brian in GA
08-06-12, 08:48 AM
I was waiting for that 1997blacketc, especialy for the youger members but I think the price range and style of these cars limits most of our forum members to a more matre audience.

No one's going to argue the point there is danger involved in competing on the streets. I have a lot to lose so I am extremely careful if I choose to play. The actual spot was a long, straight 2 lane onramp to the interstate hwy. There are concrete walls on both sides as high as 30' tall. Zero perdestrian access and there were no cars. I let out of it before we reached anything higher than a daily fast highway speed. I also looked over to make sure it wasn't a young kid, it wasn't. I won't play with someone who hasn't had enough seat time.

The point of the story was to share the reaction of my wife, the humor when she was experiencing massive G forces, the shock from the extemely loud motor just feet from her ears and finally her reaction to the whole experience. Like someone said earlier, modding just got a whole lot easier!

VinATL
08-06-12, 09:13 AM
Wait a second... wait wait wait.....

Driving is DANGEROUS???

So, I always ask this of the 'I only race on the track' posters:

Why do you have a 550+hp street car?

You can't open it up past 2nd gear, you can't get to the speed limit quickly without 'excessive acceleration' or being reckless, the gas mileage is HORRIBLE, visibility is poor, the suspension is rough, maintenance costs are high... the total cost of ownership is exorbitant for something you can't really use. IF you're not using it for some form of racing/breaking the law/being reckless... What's the point? There are more comfortable, better performing cars out there for WAY less money.

A smart man, who has thus confined himself to racing only on the racetrack (a better man than I, let's get that out there), would have something comfortable and practical for the street. His RACECAR would be spectacular. You have any idea what $65,000 can buy on Racingjunk? Go look. Now, sell your V, go buy a Lexus sedan that rides like the tires are filled with unicorn farts, and go RACE!

So, 1997BlackETC, are you just not very bright? Did you buy the wrong tool for the wrong job?

Or do you, like everyone else, like to punch it on the freeway every now and then laying waste to the shill who has no idea what he's in for? Come on, be honest. :)

V locity
08-06-12, 09:18 AM
I totaly didn't get that reaction! The other night we were on our way home and I turned in to an industrial park and as i turned the corner i put her into a sideways drift. My wife was pissed. She just yelled "Go home!" She said I didn't have any control of the car when its sliding sideways and was pissy for the rest of the night.

Hence why I said to Brian he's lucky!

My wife is the same way (unless she's behind the wheel), then she can be a certified Bat out of Hell. If I do anything other than civilized driving, her panties really tighten up the rest of the day. If she had a V, she would be dangerous, so she's limited to a GS350 though.:rolleyes:

garfin
08-06-12, 11:12 AM
Wait a second... wait wait wait.....

Driving is DANGEROUS???

So, I always ask this of the 'I only race on the track' posters:

Why do you have a 550+hp street car?




Some might choose to satisfy their "need for speed" on a track with their daily driver and not get involved in the logistics (and expense!) of owning a dedicated race car. I know that many do not have the space for a dedicated race car and a rig to tow it to the track. I think that more than a few would choose to put any extra $ that might be available into a higher end, high performance car that can still be a ton of fun on the track.

As well, by taking your 550+ hp street car out onto a road course, one is able to learn and understand the limits and capabilities of the car that you drive on a daily basis n a safe and controlled environment. Knowing what your can and can't do will only have the result of that person becoming a better and safer driver. In my opinion, it's just not possible to grasp what these cars are capable of by experimenting with them on the street. Doing so could end up being a recipe for disaster.





You can't open it up past 2nd gear, you can't get to the speed limit quickly without 'excessive acceleration' or being reckless, the gas mileage is HORRIBLE, visibility is poor, the suspension is rough, maintenance costs are high... the total cost of ownership is exorbitant for something you can't really use. There are more comfortable, better performing cars out there for WAY less money.




This does not sound like a description of the CTS-V to me... although I would have to agree that our gas mileage is somewhat less than stellar. :lol:



A smart man, who has thus confined himself to racing only on the racetrack (a better man than I, let's get that out there), would have something comfortable and practical for the street. His RACECAR would be spectacular.

I'd guess there are a fair number of people on this board who feel they have something "comfortable and practical" for the street and might even go so far as to describe the V as "spectacular" on the track (relatively speaking, of course) :cool:

Best regards,

Elie

quikag
08-06-12, 12:18 PM
That is an awesome story. I tried something similar with the wife recently too to show her just how quick and fast the V is. Not the same response you got. Oh well. At least I won't have to share seat time with her.

Haha, my wife does NOT like to go fast. Brian in GA, you should feel blessed to have a wife who shares your passion for automobiles. My wife drives a Lexus RX350 which is nice, but is one of the most boring cars on the planet and she thinks it's perfect. :rolleyes:

Brian in GA
08-06-12, 12:49 PM
quikag, I took my wife out on Road Atlanta in my dedicated Porsche race car, cage, 6 pt harness, gutted, you get the picture. I came up under the bridge entering turn 12 which many find to be the scariest turn, certainly it's the fastest! I've always loved watching the reaction of a passenger in that particular turn, some scream, thay all reach for their barakes, one peed a little and another puked inside "my" extra helmet.

My wife sat there with her hands folded in her lap like a trusting child on a roller coaster and just laughed. She didn't reach for anything or hit her brakes, I was dumbfounded. It was a first for that reaction with me. I let her autocross it a few times and she won first place in the ladies division and she was pissed she was slower than me.

I guess I'm just lucky. I told her she can take it down the track in Commerce for 1/4 mile times and she can run it down the half mile runway in Clayton a little later this year. I want her to be happy and if this brings a smile to her face she's welcome to join me.

B.

Hotrod-Realtor
08-07-12, 12:07 AM
Hehe... Peed a little. That's funny right there.

1997BlackETC
08-07-12, 01:27 PM
I am just trying to make people who don't know what a serious offense street drag racing is, I've known many people who lost their drivers licenses over it, it is not worth the risk, all it takes is one Law Enforcement Officer seeing you do it and all you can do is pull over for the flashing blue lights and then do your day in court and turn in your drivers license. I find my V is such a easy car to go over the speed limit without even knowing it what I find is best to do is just lock in the cruise control at the speed limit, even on back roads. This way there is no way to get a speeding ticket. And yes, I am really going to enjoy taking my V to the Drag track, that is the main reason I bought the car to drag race it. I don't want some car I'm going to be constantly twisting wrenches with and I like riding in smooth luxury on the street.

quikag
08-07-12, 01:58 PM
quikag, I took my wife out on Road Atlanta in my dedicated Porsche race car, cage, 6 pt harness, gutted, you get the picture. I came up under the bridge entering turn 12 which many find to be the scariest turn, certainly it's the fastest! I've always loved watching the reaction of a passenger in that particular turn, some scream, thay all reach for their barakes, one peed a little and another puked inside "my" extra helmet.

My wife sat there with her hands folded in her lap like a trusting child on a roller coaster and just laughed. She didn't reach for anything or hit her brakes, I was dumbfounded. It was a first for that reaction with me. I let her autocross it a few times and she won first place in the ladies division and she was pissed she was slower than me.

I guess I'm just lucky. I told her she can take it down the track in Commerce for 1/4 mile times and she can run it down the half mile runway in Clayton a little later this year. I want her to be happy and if this brings a smile to her face she's welcome to join me.

B.

Uh, yeah, you're lucky. I took my wife on a PARADE lap before an HPDE event at Texas Motor Speedway in my previous '08 LS3 Vette. It had some R-comps and a few bolt-ons, but was otherwise stock. Anyway, during the second parade lap, I kick it up to about 60% of max cornering and accelerating and she starts freaking out, so I have to pull over and let her out. If she ever rode with me during a 10/10ths track session, she would probably have a heart attack and I'd have multiple face, neck, and arm lacerations due to her clawing me in an attempt to get me to stop.

My favorite moment was dogging a BMW M Coupe at a Texas World Speedway track event. The M guy was driving pretty hard, but I was all over him with my Vette. He finally points me by and as I blow past him and immediately brake hard for a carousel turn, I hear his female passenger (turned out to be his wife) screaming bloody murder. It was so loud I caught it on my camera over the wind noise and my engine roar as I went past him. :D

oldiemotors
08-07-12, 09:30 PM
Brian in GA, you got a good one...marry her again and hold on to that one.

Lucky for me my wife is a motor head too. When my wife and I were looking for a new car she drove into a Lincoln dealer. She was interested the little MKZ. We sat in it and she said that she really liked the seats!

Across their lot I spotted a '09 Crystal Red V for sale. While test driving the V on the freeway I told the saleslady that I was about to punch it. She said go ahead, but she had no idea what we were driving.

The wife loved it and that day we became the proud owners of a V...we didn't even test drive the MKZ.

V locity
08-07-12, 09:36 PM
^^^LOL! What was the reaction of the sales gal?

undertaker
08-14-12, 04:57 PM
^^^LOL! What was the reaction of the sales gal?

Did something like that with an 04V way back when, rolled into the dealership with my 03Z06, we're tearing down the onramp onto the parkway at about 65-70 at the top of 2nd and I slam the brakes on the ramp still... The salesman is like uhh ok, you can drive stick right? I said sure, you see that white fender sticking out from the exit sign? There's a laser coming out from the cop car under it....

So we take the next exit at double the suggested speed, and I run through the gears again, and now he's not happy. I said its ok, but pretty darn heavy. He said ok? You were just doing 80-90. I said well do you want to go make the same lap in the vette I pulled in with?

Needless so say I didn't give up the vette in 04, now I said screw it and have both. And some pretty rough decisions on nice weather days.

Xaqtly
08-14-12, 05:11 PM
This probably warrants a repost of this picture: this is my girlfriend driving a Z06 during our 3-day Ron Fellows driving school at Spring Mountain in Pahrump NV. This is the school Chevy sends you to when you buy a ZR1.

Significant other who likes performance driving = win.

http://xaqtly.com/z06.jpg

Brian in GA
08-14-12, 06:37 PM
Very cool!

My wife put me on notice that when I go to the track she's coming and she's driving. I have no problem with this, the look on her face told me what the short race did for her so she's welcome to enjoy it with me.

Just asked her (literally) if she's ever driven in the snow. Answer, no. I asked if she knew what to do in a slide if a tire blows, her answer was correct. I asked her to act it out and she got that right too. I asked her if it happened at 120 mph if she thought she would react instead of think about the answer. She said she's out, no racing for her.

We'll see, I'll run her down the track once or twice and see if she changes her mind. At least she's honest with herself.



This probably warrants a repost of this picture: this is my girlfriend driving a Z06 during our 3-day Ron Fellows driving school at Spring Mountain in Pahrump NV. This is the school Chevy sends you to when you buy a ZR1.

Significant other who likes performance driving = win.

http://xaqtly.com/z06.jpg

cts-v-ette
08-14-12, 10:06 PM
96148

I had my 11 coupe dyno at the track, bone stock.