: New tires, but which ones should i take?



gmdt
06-13-12, 12:43 PM
hi,

i need new tires for my ctsv coupe.
i want 265 35 19 in the front and 305 30 19 in the rear?
but i dont know wich tyre i should take?

my car is still in the stock height but i will install springs and i have d3 wheelspacers front and rear.


Hankook
Ventus S1 evo2 K117 XL 4PR

Michelin Pilot Super Sport EL UHP FSL

or are there better ones

thebigjimsho
06-14-12, 10:29 PM
For cheap, Hankooks are great. For all out performance, the Michelins rule...

gmdt
06-15-12, 02:36 PM
but i can drive this sizes without any problems?

thanks

gmdt
06-15-12, 02:53 PM
is it possible to drive 255/ 265 35 19 and 305 30 19

or is it better to drive 255 35 19 and 295 30 19?

thebigjimsho
06-16-12, 11:35 AM
is it possible to drive 255/ 265 35 19 and 305 30 19

or is it better to drive 255 35 19 and 295 30 19?

The 265/305 combo would be better as its closer to stock diameter. But those tires do run very wide...

TriTexan
06-18-12, 12:53 AM
You need to differentiate between CAN run those sizes and SHOULD. Just because the tire fits doesn't mean it's the best option. Do you need more traction than the stock PS2's offer? If you just want the LOOK of bigger tires, slap on something cheap and tool around the block at low speed. If you want the performance the car was designed for, get another set of the stock size PS2's until the Pilot Super Sports come out in our sizes...if the wider tires on stock rims made the car faster around the track, that's what GM would have put on when trying to take down the M5 on the 'ring.

Cub Cadet
06-18-12, 10:21 PM
hi,

i need new tires for my ctsv coupe.
i want 265 35 19 in the front and 305 30 19 in the rear?
but i dont know wich tyre i should take?

my car is still in the stock height but i will install springs and i have d3 wheelspacers front and rear.


Hankook
Ventus S1 evo2 K117 XL 4PR

Michelin Pilot Super Sport EL UHP FSL

or are there better ones

Yes - go with a set that is 275 wide in front and 305 in back. Make sure to check that you get the OD to be close from front to back. Also, make sure that you adjust the tire size in the tune.

DPL
06-20-12, 09:13 PM
Who runs wider than stock tires on a stock rim (sedan)? I need to replace and want to see what wider tires look like. I've seen a few cars on this forum and they look very good but they were running aftermarket wheels.

Cub Cadet
06-28-12, 01:54 PM
Mine are wider:
93969
93970
93971
93972

Stock sizing (tires looking too narrow for the wheels) was done for eeking out the last millionth of a G for handling. Most of us in our daily driving do not need this type of handling and a wider tire looks MUCH nicer. The tire being too narrow cheapens the look of the car and gives it a ricey look... NEVER liked the factory tire look. So, I went wider. The absolute best package (width-wise) seen over the years is a 275 wide front and a 295/305 tire in the rear.

Airfoto
06-28-12, 02:51 PM
If you want the best = $$$ = Pirelli - second choice are the Michelin Sports

WA 2 FST
06-28-12, 06:43 PM
Mine are wider:





Stock sizing (tires looking too narrow for the wheels) was done for eeking out the last millionth of a G for handling. Most of us in our daily driving do not need this type of handling and a wider tire looks MUCH nicer. The tire being too narrow cheapens the look of the car and gives it a ricey look... NEVER liked the factory tire look. So, I went wider. The absolute best package (width-wise) seen over the years is a 275 wide front and a 295/305 tire in the rear.

So what aspect ratio did you run? I'm guessing 275/35 and 295/35. I agree with your assessment on looks. My concern is finding a tire that is just as sticky as the PS2 for straight-line traction, as I will be pushing 560+rwhp by next week.

hlantin
06-28-12, 10:18 PM
Here's my setup with RE-11 265/305 on D3 comp springs and spacers. The ride feels firmer than PS2s with a lot more grip..
93995
93996
93997
93998

Stillborn
06-29-12, 01:23 AM
you will have achieved a better look if you lowered the car vs just adding wider tyres. the gap is what gives it a cheap ricer look. not to be h8tin, as we all started with the stock ride height. but lowered gives the illusion of a wider tyre. i do like the 305's with the lowered stance for an even more aggressive look, but i'm not sure I'd sacrifice width for performance as far as the ps2's go. as stated when the ss's come out in our size than that a different situation. the ps2's are an amazing balance of grip and performance bar none for everyday real world use.
stock tyres
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/zx9mic/WP_000534.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/zx9mic/WP_000498.jpg

thebigjimsho
06-29-12, 11:56 AM
Mine are wider:
<img src="http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=93969"/>
<img src="http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=93970"/>
<img src="http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=93971"/>
<img src="http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=93972"/>

Stock sizing (tires looking too narrow for the wheels) was done for eeking out the last millionth of a G for handling. Most of us in our daily driving do not need this type of handling and a wider tire looks MUCH nicer. The tire being too narrow cheapens the look of the car and gives it a ricey look... NEVER liked the factory tire look. So, I went wider. The absolute best package (width-wise) seen over the years is a 275 wide front and a 295/305 tire in the rear.

No, ricey is modifying for looks, performance be damned.

extrabolts
07-01-12, 07:37 AM
I run 305 hankooks in the rear. Without a doubt, they hook better from a launch than the ps2s that I pulled off I can't tell a difference in turns, but the extra width turn my burnouts from a stop into a grabbing /clawing that gets the car moving much faster. The hankook is probably the best tire I have owned

Wannago
07-01-12, 02:09 PM
I have 305/30 Hankooks in the back. They look huge (width), which is what I was hoping to achieve. There is a bit too much gap in the wheel opening now, but I'll just wear these ones out and try to find another tire that is just as wide and closer to the stock PS2 diameter. The Hankooks so far, seem to be a very nice tire. I do have occaional issuse with the traction control, due to the different diameter of the Hankooks, which is annoying.

thebigjimsho
07-01-12, 10:49 PM
There is no way the Hankooks hook better than the PS2, period.

Purple87SS
07-02-12, 11:14 AM
I cut 1.8x 60ft on stock sized Hankooks. I bought the car with the Hankooks on it, and I like them so far. Not trying to start a tire debate just wanted to state my experience. YMMV.

thebigjimsho
07-02-12, 05:34 PM
I'm just saying I've run both tires(same size) and my Hankooks just don't hook like my PS2s did.

larry arizona
07-02-12, 08:41 PM
jim,

I bet you had a whole lot more fun with the hankooks with half the guilt:yup:. Just sayn I have considered a set of rear HK's for the street to play with and DR's for the strip. Front PS2's are wearing well.

thebigjimsho
07-04-12, 12:07 AM
They wear amazingly well. I bought them last year expecting the PSS to be ready this year and to see what the hoopla was about. I live in a neighborhood close to the ramp system of an Interstate. I get my own 1/4 mile strip on the way home every time I take my V out. So those Hankooks have been launched hard quite a bit. The fronts still are at about 70% tread, the rears are at least half to 60% tread. That's about 13-15k spirited miles and an autocross as well...

And they're cheap.

extrabolts
07-10-12, 05:09 PM
well I should clarify that I went from a missized 255 PS2 on my rear to a 305 VE12. The 255 PS2 would just spin and spin from a stop, even before I did a pulley or any other mods. I'm very happy with the 305 VE12s. They hook so well that I decided to postpone my plans to have my rear wheels widened. It helps that we've had 90+ degree temperatures here the last couple of months.

thebigjimsho
07-10-12, 06:05 PM
well I should clarify that I went from a missized 255 PS2 on my rear to a 305 VE12. The 255 PS2 would just spin and spin from a stop, even before I did a pulley or any other mods. I'm very happy with the 305 VE12s. They hook so well that I decided to postpone my plans to have my rear wheels widened. It helps that we've had 90+ degree temperatures here the last couple of months.I can GUARANDAMNTEE you a set of 305 PS2s would whoop on those Hankooks...

thebigjimsho
07-10-12, 06:05 PM
If you want the best = $$$ = Pirelli - second choice are the Michelin SportsDon't look at the latest C&D tire comparo...

Cub Cadet
07-10-12, 11:48 PM
I can GUARANDAMNTEE you a set of 305 PS2s would whoop on those Hankooks...

I HIGHLY doubt that based on your thought process. The way you think, anything wider than stock is slower than stock.

thebigjimsho
07-10-12, 11:53 PM
I HIGHLY doubt that based on your thought process. The way you think, anything wider than stock is slower than stock.

At least I know what I'm talking about when it comes to tires...

Stillborn
07-12-12, 07:22 PM
here's a little personal experience i had today. i'm leaving the gym and turn off stability control completely...i get out to the edge of the park lot and as always leave a little rubber, only today (and i've said this about newbs and others) the car high-sided, almost lost it and god only knows the mess i was in, needles to say it was the tires fault in the high-side yet they also helped me get her back in line. talk about catch 22. i'm gonna be honest the ps2's are great for high speed driving/cornering, but they suck the big one for fun. it is hot and sticky out today and lots of grip abounds, but i do not like the feeling of getting lose (sideways) and it hooking. eff that! my hands were shaking at the next light. be careful folks, i consider myself a good driver and this ain't my first rodeo. i think some bridgestones out back would be more fun for the type of driving i enjoy, which is sideways looking out the passenger side window going down the street. not with ps2's,..it just ain't gonna happen.

thebigjimsho
07-12-12, 10:12 PM
Needs moar driver mod. I'll show you who's who on the Merritt... :highfive:

Stillborn
07-12-12, 10:49 PM
the merritt takes no prisoners...you better hope those hankooks hold the line. you dont want any flower wreathes and candles on the side of the road. lol

thebigjimsho
07-13-12, 07:59 AM
Maybe they'd name a bridge abutment after me...

extrabolts
07-16-12, 11:39 AM
another tire to consider is the nt05, which I really like for mixed track and street driving. Cheap too

WA 2 FST
07-16-12, 01:35 PM
another tire to consider is the nt05, which I really like for mixed track and street driving. Cheap too

Which size are you running?

extrabolts
07-16-12, 04:16 PM
235x40x18s, different car. just looked and see they don't have the NT05 in our sizes, bummer