: Plastidipped grille + side vents on White Diamond Vagon



Xaqtly
03-03-12, 10:20 PM
Thanks to the helpful threads in here and all the advice, I tackled plastidipping my own grilles and side vents today. The results were magnificent. Note to Cadillac Customer Service: There is a fatal flaw in the CTS-V's grille, and it's that it doesn't look like this from the factory.

http://xaqtly.com/ctsv/dip1.jpg

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FFBOS
03-03-12, 11:04 PM
Looks awesome. Its amazing how easy the stuff goes on looks afterwards.....you need to hit the chrom strip on the hood...:)

I got an all black car and the only "chrome" pieces left are the side vents. I'm still debating on whether or not I want to do them in black or the gunmetal color...or leave them be.

M5eater
03-03-12, 11:51 PM
you must have small hands to get that paper behind there.

Really, taking the front clip off takes 30minuites with a screw driver, some ramps , an 8mm socket and ratchet.

thebigjimsho
03-04-12, 08:11 AM
While I do like the Plasti-dip grilles on my V2, I didn't mind the stock ones. There was enough bling on it where the stock grilles fit in.

On the V1, there was little bling desires the grilles and they looked like mouth braces. Very goofy. Blacked out grilles on a black raven V1 was essential...

CoppeR
03-04-12, 10:15 AM
The results were magnificent. Note to Cadillac Customer Service: There is a fatal flaw in the CTS-V's grille, and it's that it doesn't look like this from the factory.

I plan on plastidippin too. However, if the grills came stock in black, a lot of people would want chrome ones to be different hehe. +1 on hitting the chrome on the hood.

M5eater
03-04-12, 10:23 AM
I plan on plastidippin too. However, if the grills came stock in black, a lot of people would want chrome ones to be different hehe. +1 on hitting the chrome on the hood.

Always want what you don't have!

tabio42
03-04-12, 11:00 AM
How hard is it to remove this stuff if you don't like the color? Just powerwash it?

M5eater
03-04-12, 11:07 AM
How hard is it to remove this stuff if you don't like the color? Just powerwash it?
powerwash is a faster way. Otherwise you can peel this stuff off by hand if you've applied enough layers. The downside to more layers is that you get more texture.

Captain McFunk
03-04-12, 11:43 AM
How hard is it to remove this stuff if you don't like the color? Just powerwash it?

i don't think you can power wash it off. I power wash my car when I clean it, and this stuff hasn't moved. Mine is only 1800psi, but still, enough I would think. It's solid. You can just peel it off, make sure you lay it on thick, so when you start peeling it, it ALL comes off in one piece, even on the grille. But don't worry, you'll like it :)


powerwash is a faster way. Otherwise you can peel this stuff off by hand if you've applied enough layers. The downside to more layers is that you get more texture.

Do you get more texture with more layers? I've put up to 6 layers and still have the smooth flat black look, but I guess I could see texture by moving the distance from spraying.

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to the OP, car looks fantastic! Almost looking the same now!

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn181/CaptainMcFunk/5-3.jpg

M5eater
03-04-12, 07:26 PM
Do you get more texture with more layers? I've put up to 6 layers and still have the smooth flat black look, but I guess I could see texture by moving the distance from spraying.

I probally had 6 or more because I didn't think I was getting good coverage, but yes, I have a small amount of texture. The cold weather probably wasen't helping


don't think you can power wash it off. I power wash my car when I clean it, and this stuff hasn't moved. Mine is only 1800psi, but still, enough I would think.
The trick is; agitate with some dawn and a nail brush, start a small section and blast it at the peeling line. Power-washing is a lot easier if you say, have dipped the whole car, but small stuff is easier by hand. Love the car by the way!

DrVolkl
03-05-12, 07:12 PM
Looks good... makes me want to do my car... damn.

thebigjimsho
03-05-12, 08:08 PM
I saw someone use the Trimbrite stuffs to do their vents but left the single chrome strip down the center alone.

I may try that with the Plasti-dip and glossifier...

BOYCHIKS
03-07-12, 01:03 AM
Wow, that looks great!!

PerformanceDefined
03-11-12, 06:22 AM
I am unfamiliar with Plasti-dip, but found their web site so I now understand it is a rubber-like coating.
Is there an advantage in using Plasti-dip over a matte black spray paint?

MSOsr
03-11-12, 08:22 AM
Huge advantages! First, the plastic coating doesn't rock chip nearly as easily as paint. Secondly, if you change your mind at any time, you can just peel off the Plasti Dip by scratching or cutting a gap in the coating and taking your finger nail and pulling the plastic off. Thirdly, if you happen to get some Plasti Dip where you don't want it, PEEL it off! No mineral spirits or lacquer thinner needed!

Mike

muohio
03-11-12, 10:02 AM
Did some get on the paint?

http://xaqtly.com/ctsv/dip8.jpg

Do you just peel is off or leave it?

Captain McFunk
03-11-12, 11:56 AM
he probably did, but you just peel it off. You're supposed to leave about a 1 inch gap PAST the paint (yes, you spray directly on the cars paint) and make sure you lay it down thick. This will provide for EASY removal when it's time to peel it up.

Xaqtly
03-11-12, 05:59 PM
Did some get on the paint?

http://xaqtly.com/ctsv/dip8.jpg

Do you just peel is off or leave it?

Actually that's the result of me scraping my fingernail against the plastidip on the grille as I was peeling the excess off the bumper. No harm done, what you're seeing is a little bit of the original chrome where I scraped off the plastidip accidentally. I'm going to touch it up with a respray right there.

Like Capt. McFunk said, you intentionally overspray onto the paint. What you're seeing here is a part where I didn't overspray enough, so it didn't come up cleanly like the rest of it did. It's real easy to fix though.

undertaker
03-11-12, 11:17 PM
heh, I did the same think I need to touch mine up when I'm energetic.

boplaw
03-12-12, 05:00 PM
Thinking about doing mine in gunmetal on black coupe. Will post pix if I ever get around to it.

SoCal_V
03-13-12, 03:55 PM
Wow, great thread & thank you to the OP for photos--I have the same color CTS-V w/black wheels...this may be my weekend project in a few days!

Question--for the side grill inserts, you masked it off several millimeters away from the grill itself and sprayed the paint. I know it lifts up, but did you use a hobby blade or something to trim it around the grill or does it just peel up on its own and separate at the crease?

Kluch
03-13-12, 07:13 PM
Funny, I have a black grille on the Tahoe and wish it was chrome. I like the V grille as is. Yours looks good too. To each his own. Thanks for sharing.

FFBOS
03-13-12, 08:16 PM
As long as you leave a little bit of "space" between what you are spraying and the tape it peels off perfect. If you tape right to the edge it will cause the plasti-dip on the chrome area you sprayed to peel up with the tape.

SoCal_V
03-14-12, 03:10 AM
Well I couldn't wait until the weekend, so I did the upper & lower grill, side 'vents' and rear CTS logo with Plasti-Dip this afternoon.

I must say it worked like a charm. My only surprise was how much over-spray there was and how much it drifted over the panels, which shows very obviously on the diamond-white paint. Thankfully, the over-spray was easy to remove with a microfiber cloth sprayed with Griot's Speed Shine.

One tip--I didn't bother masking off the chrome wreath in the center of the grill...I just sprayed it w/the rest of the grill. The Plasti-Dip pulled away perfectly, so if you want to keep the wreath chromed (which I did, similar to the OP's car), don't bother masking it off.

I need to re-spray one of the side vents, as the top edge didn't pull away clean and looks a bit rough for my taste. Thankfully it's easy to peel off and re-do.

Highly recommended & I wouldn't have been as confident trying it w/out this thread.

BTW the car looks absolutely KILLER now--this is how the car should come from GM!

Bullet Tooth
03-14-12, 10:42 AM
heh, I did the same think I need to touch mine up when I'm energetic.

The only problem I found with plasti-dip is when I tried to "touch up" an area on the hood's chrome strip. I went back after the original application (that went great) to touch up a spot from a fairly large rock that hit the strip. When I resprayed a small area near the problem, the resprayed area bubbled after a couple of days and ended up coming off. It may be something that I did, but I believe if you try to just touch up a small area, it ends up altering the grip level of that area, when compared to the rest of the job.

I ended up peeling the entire chrome strip off and repainted the entire strip. It is perfect now and I couldn't be happier.

Xaqtly
03-14-12, 02:18 PM
Wow, great thread & thank you to the OP for photos--I have the same color CTS-V w/black wheels...this may be my weekend project in a few days!

Question--for the side grill inserts, you masked it off several millimeters away from the grill itself and sprayed the paint. I know it lifts up, but did you use a hobby blade or something to trim it around the grill or does it just peel up on its own and separate at the crease?

Yeah do it, it makes it the diamond white Vs look soooooo good. :) You want to leave some space around your target and intentionally overspray maybe a 1/2" wide strip onto the paint, as the idea is that it lifts up and separates itself at the crease. But you can also use an xacto knife to trim where you want it to split if you want, either way should work. The key is overspraying enough, and with enough coats, to give you a nice solid, thickish strip of plastidip to grab onto and pull, so it all comes up when you pull on it.

cts-v-ette
03-14-12, 02:43 PM
Although it looks good, I wouldn't dream of covering the chrome. After the 70's real chrome went away with all the plastic, I think the bright grille makes the car. But like someone said, to each their own.

LitiGATOR
03-14-12, 09:09 PM
That looks so good. I don't know how black would look on my Thunder Gray sedan; what other color options are there for plasti-dipping?

MSOsr
03-14-12, 09:12 PM
That looks so good. I don't know how black would look on my Thunder Gray sedan; what other color options are there for plasti-dipping?

Mike (UF law school grad 1979)

LitiGATOR
03-14-12, 09:15 PM
Mike, that looks awesome! I would have blacked-out the chrome trim too, but looks very good on TG.

- Marsad c/o '05 (Go Gators!)

CoppeR
03-15-12, 09:03 AM
Grey all blacked out

88250

LitiGATOR
03-15-12, 11:07 PM
It does look great, much better than anticipated. Thanks

PerformanceDefined
03-17-12, 09:17 PM
Grey all blacked out

88250

What brand & size wheels (and tires) are those?
Very nice.

cincyenginerd
03-18-12, 01:52 AM
Mike (UF law school grad 1979)

Looks fantastic! I think the blacked-out mesh/chrome surround looks better than the all-blacked-out look... gives a little bit of contrast. It'd be great if Cadillac offered that combo as an option from the factory...

CoppeR
03-18-12, 11:26 PM
What brand & size wheels (and tires) are those?
Very nice.

Not my car but they are 20" Vossen wheels. Toyo tires 255 front, 295 rear I believe.

baabootoo
03-23-12, 11:56 PM
After doing some searching Home Depot has it for only $5.98 a can, or Ace hardware for a little more.

Xaqtly
03-27-12, 01:08 PM
So after driving down to LA last weekend when we had that big storm, the V got hit in the face with a huge tumbleweed. After I was able to get out and look at it, there was tumbleweed everywhere. It tore up some of the plastidip on the lower ring of the upper grille, so I had to remove all the plastidip from the lower chrome ring around the upper grille, and re-spray. Luckily it's real easy. Maybe 20 mins spent on setup, and then just 4 coats or so. Looks awesome again now. It also took care of the part where I had originally rubbed some off with my fingernail.

http://xaqtly.com/ctsv/redip3.jpg

http://xaqtly.com/ctsv/redip1.jpg

thebigjimsho
03-27-12, 01:24 PM
Your V looks happy under that newspaper...

Xaqtly
03-27-12, 01:28 PM
Your V looks happy under that newspaper...

Probably because avocados are 3 for a dollar!

thebigjimsho
03-27-12, 01:59 PM
Did you know avacado is the Mayan word for testicle?

NC_Tech007
03-27-12, 08:17 PM
What a day and night difference. This should be a factory option, at least!

Purple87SS
03-30-12, 09:42 AM
That's so sweet. Nice job with the pics! Def on my mod list once I get a V.

Stillborn
03-30-12, 06:14 PM
thanks for the pictorial and added comments by those that have done this mod. i will be attempting this on my newly acquired diamond white sedan over the weekend. i really like the the lower lip painted as well, (sedan pictured in another thread) that is the sexiest thing I've ever seen. =]

rockryno
04-01-12, 12:03 PM
youre a brave man painting on the car, but it looks great. nice job

brickfrenzy
04-02-12, 09:46 AM
Is plasti-dip really that easy to peel off? I'm leasing my Vagon, but I've been thinking strongly about doing that to the grille, but keeping some of the chrome trim as an accent.

thebigjimsho
04-03-12, 01:28 PM
Very easy. It's nothing like paint...

Xaqtly
04-04-12, 02:36 PM
youre a brave man painting on the car, but it looks great. nice job


Is plasti-dip really that easy to peel off? I'm leasing my Vagon, but I've been thinking strongly about doing that to the grille, but keeping some of the chrome trim as an accent.

Yeah, it just peels off. It's like rubberized plastic, it feels a little like elastic. You just have to cut a starting point to start peeling, and it just pulls off. Rockryno, that's why I'm not as brave as it seems, there was no actual danger of painting over the car's body paint, since plastidip is not really paint. It is completely reversible if you want to remove it.

Stillborn
04-04-12, 11:05 PM
i just did mine today...it came out mint. 2 thumbs up for plast-dip! (btw, i also did the chrome strip and emblem on the trunk)
side note: it was easy to remove any over spray with electrical cleaner (alcohol aerosol spray)

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/zx9mic/CTS-V22.png

thebigjimsho
04-06-12, 10:43 AM
Looks sharp!

sfv41901
04-06-12, 03:45 PM
Love the look

Mbauermcd
04-08-12, 11:08 PM
Where did you guys get it at??

Stillborn
04-09-12, 12:38 AM
summit racing. (online) home depot has it (in some locations, unfortunately not mine).

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/zx9mic/WP_000392.jpg

thebigjimsho
04-09-12, 02:34 PM
Yeah, I found it at my local Home Depot...

Xaqtly
04-10-12, 12:12 PM
Where did you guys get it at??

I got mine from Amazon along with a couple rolls of 3" painters tape. :)

Stillborn
04-10-12, 01:44 PM
lol i got the 3" blue painters tape at home depot when i was unsuccessful in acquiring the plasti-dip.

Woody10
04-11-12, 02:54 AM
looks great ! how did you apply the plasti dip?

Stillborn
04-11-12, 11:22 AM
go to you tube and type in plasti dip grill. Fonzie will walk you through it.

rangerrob
04-12-12, 07:00 PM
Ace Hardware also carries it in different colors... Also, for some of the skeptics took mine through an automatic car wash today... ya i know... but Mike's Carwash is pretty decent in this area and my grille and vents were perfectly fine after going through, granted I put 8 coats on... lol

brickfrenzy
04-16-12, 10:05 AM
Well, I joined the Plasti-Dip bandwagon over the weekend. Two spray cans of paint, and one of the dip cans for a bit of touch-up work. It looks awesome. Pulling the bumper was a fair bit harder than I was lead to believe (it took my buddy an I about 90 minutes to get it off, and an hour or so to get it back on), but the results speak for themselves. I decided to go the same route as MSOsr and his thuder gray V, dipping the mesh, but leaving the surround trim chrome. I didn't like the totally black look, and think that the small amount of chrome really works great on the opulent blue.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7073/7081290551_eb36b8ae83_c.jpg

Stillborn
04-16-12, 03:32 PM
a few plasti dip updated pics, with painted tails...
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/zx9mic/cts-vapril2012.png
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/zx9mic/cts-vapril2012b.png

MSOsr
04-16-12, 06:57 PM
Well, I joined the Plasti-Dip bandwagon over the weekend. Two spray cans of paint, and one of the dip cans for a bit of touch-up work. It looks awesome. Pulling the bumper was a fair bit harder than I was lead to believe (it took my buddy an I about 90 minutes to get it off, and an hour or so to get it back on), but the results speak for themselves. I decided to go the same route as MSOsr and his thuder gray V, dipping the mesh, but leaving the surround trim chrome. I didn't like the totally black look, and think that the small amount of chrome really works great on the opulent blue.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7073/7081290551_eb36b8ae83_c.jpg

Beautiful car!

Mike (do your fog light trim next!)

brickfrenzy
04-17-12, 10:32 AM
Beautiful car!

Mike (do your fog light trim next!)

I actually considered doing just that. Luckily, that's easy to do with the bumper still on the car. The trouble is how far down the brake duct to spray...

qictrk
04-17-12, 04:21 PM
Looks good Mike. Cecil................

thebigjimsho
04-18-12, 05:29 PM
Well, I joined the Plasti-Dip bandwagon over the weekend. Two spray cans of paint, and one of the dip cans for a bit of touch-up work. It looks awesome. Pulling the bumper was a fair bit harder than I was lead to believe (it took my buddy an I about 90 minutes to get it off, and an hour or so to get it back on), but the results speak for themselves. I decided to go the same route as MSOsr and his thuder gray V, dipping the mesh, but leaving the surround trim chrome. I didn't like the totally black look, and think that the small amount of chrome really works great on the opulent blue.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7073/7081290551_eb36b8ae83_c.jpgI've always agreed about the small amount of chrome.

As for removing bumpers, it took me awhile as well. But I am OCD and have to look over directions 8 times before delving in...

MSOsr
04-18-12, 05:56 PM
I actually considered doing just that. Luckily, that's easy to do with the bumper still on the car. The trouble is how far down the brake duct to spray...

I just did the front of the trim and painted a spray or two on either side of the brake duct near the front....the rest of the duct is back in the dark and you'll never see it anyway. The big thing is to get the part you see looking like your grill.

Mike

Xaqtly
11-06-12, 12:30 AM
I plastidipped a little bit more of my car... the "V" part of the V badges. I masked off the flag part and just hit the V with plastidip. I'm going for a look that looks stock, just with black trim parts instead of chrome. Not murdered out, just trying to sort of tastefully replace the chrome bits with black. Average joe isn't going to know this isn't factory stock.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh238/xaqtly/vbadges.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh238/xaqtly/blackv1.jpeg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh238/xaqtly/blackv2.jpeg

Trionalaw
11-06-12, 10:36 AM
My 11-year-old daughter, Lily, decided to "murder" everything on my black on black in black 2012 CTS V Coupe (6 M which she wants to learn to drive. Her two older sisters had no such interest. Guess who gets to go to driving schools when they are older?)

I think the only chrome left are the tailpipe extensions and my pedals, including the Ultimate Pedals heel toe gas pedal.

I can't wait until the spring when we redo it because my side didn't come out as well as hers! This weekend we're going to change the brake fluid to.4. I have never done it. I have the kit to do so. She is very excited about it.

I like the black on white. It didn't remind me of "black and blue", the consequences of a 30 year marriage.

Just kidding.

Jim

IBMike
11-12-12, 02:39 AM
Great set of pics! Looks great!

hungryhobo82
01-18-13, 05:43 AM
Nice job, I love the V's full chrome grill, but now you have me wanting to paint mine black. Nice job!

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Your grill looks just like this $1,429 mesh Grille set for a fraction of the price: http://www.trucktastic.com/2009-2010-cadillac-cts-v-mesh-grille-set-by-racemesh-grilles-rm-cccsv09.html

angcrazy
01-23-13, 06:35 PM
Hi

Your car looks amazing. Im too nervous about painting the side vents "on" the car. Can they be taken off and clipped back in easily?

Also what are you guys doing about the chrome door trim. How are you blacking that out? I too have an 2012 V-sedan and love all your cars. Thanks

Big Jay
01-25-13, 01:33 AM
When you go through the car wash, does the brushes that come around the front take the plastic dip off of the grill?

tinman
01-25-13, 02:28 PM
Who goes through a car wash?

thebigjimsho
01-27-13, 09:59 PM
I do. Got an unlimited plan on my V. Just for the winter months. Would rather scratch it up a bit than let the salt go crazy. Besides, I polish and wax it up plenty well...

Bigreese
01-27-13, 10:53 PM
Bad link and duplicate picture deleted

thebigjimsho
01-28-13, 03:08 AM
What are you doing?

Bigreese
01-28-13, 03:13 AM
What are you doing?

I can't delete post can you help

thebigjimsho
01-28-13, 07:48 AM
I can't help in deleting. I'm not a moderator. What code is that? Maybe I can help in posting...

tinman
01-28-13, 09:11 AM
You can't delete because (maybe) (being a noob) you don't have enough posts yet.

Submariner409
01-28-13, 09:21 AM
Done. Can't understand why he kept hitting the "Submit reply" tab.

Bigreese, Also, when you "report" a post, please don't multiple click the little /!\ icon in the lower left corner - it simply overloads the Moderator info forum and creates extra work, and we don't get overtime.

tinman
01-28-13, 09:59 AM
Re: Submit Reply, many times when I hit my "submit reply" button it doesn't respond quickly. It makes you think that it didn't "take" the button pushing because it is sooooo slow, so you hit it again. And again. Therefore multiple posts of the same response.

Xaqtly
01-29-13, 02:18 PM
Im too nervous about painting the side vents "on" the car. Can they be taken off and clipped back in easily?

Well since I didn't paint mine, I used plasti-dip instead, I just did the side vents with them in the car. Since they're real vents that go all the way through, I just taped newspaper up behind the vents in the engine bay, masked out the vents on the outside with painter's tape and sprayed. If you get any overspray on the body, just rub it off with your fingers. Again, this is if you use plasti-dip, which I strongly recommend over paint. If you're going to use actual paint, definitely take the vents out of the car to paint them.