: Tips when using plasti dip on your grill



MSOsr
02-25-12, 05:45 PM
I had a 2005 Black V and thought about having the grill powdercoated black...never did. Now have a 2011 V Coupe and thought about having the grill painted. Didn't. Then I saw the recent posts about DIY using Plasti Dip! It's done!

I made some mistakes you should avoid.

Watch the video re: dipping your grill on dipyourcar.com. Note that they recommend leaving a gap between the edge of the masking and the area being dipped. Excellent point! I totally masked the front emblem and when I removed the tape after the dip dried, I pulled some dip off the adjacent mesh area. I resprayed the area with a few coats and just let the overspray get onto the emblem. After the dip dried, I just rubbed my finger pad back and forth on the emblem and the overspray just peeled off, leaving a nice margin between the mesh and emblem.

I also did not dip my surround pieces. When masking around them, again leave a slight gap between the tape and the mesh. After the dip dries, again use the pad of your finger to rub the overspray and it will peel up and leave a nice edge between surround and grill.

A few pics before touch up:

FFBOS
02-25-12, 11:02 PM
I'm going to be doing this soon. Your saying to leave a little of the chrome emblem exposed so it peels off and creates that edge better? I wonder if just taping off what you can see straight on would do the trick and create enough gap between the tape and other area being sprayed.

thebigjimsho
02-26-12, 02:16 AM
That looks good on the gray...

MSOsr
02-26-12, 04:20 AM
That looks good on the gray...

Thanks to the guy who first showed the chrome around the black grill on the V1!

Mike

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I'm going to be doing this soon. Your saying to leave a little of the chrome emblem exposed so it peels off and creates that edge better? I wonder if just taping off what you can see straight on would do the trick and create enough gap between the tape and other area being sprayed.

That would probably work well.......just rub the "side" of the emblem to remove the overspray then. Just be careful you don't rub up against the mesh and remove the Plasti Dip there also!

Mike

Captain McFunk
02-26-12, 09:32 AM
That looks great. Another idea/tip for the front emblem: mask off the front emblem like normal, then let dry, BEFORE YOU PEEL THE TAPE OFF, run an exacto knife around the edge of the emblem. This will break the bond in the plasti-dip from the emblem, so when you pull the tape upwards, it won't pull it off from the grille and leave spots. I learned this on my last experiment on the badge haha.

BigDog001
02-26-12, 02:28 PM
Thanks to the guy who first showed the chrome around the black grill on the V1!

Mike

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That would probably work well.......just rub the "side" of the emblem to remove the overspray then. Just be careful you don't rub up against the mesh and remove the Plasti Dip there also!

Mike

I really like the chrome around the grill -- looks great! ... but I have a stupid question -- if the Plasti Dip rubs off so easily (or is this only until it sets?) -- what happens if you run the car through a car wash? Will in come off?

Jim

MSOsr
02-26-12, 07:54 PM
Jim:

It's my understanding that after the Plasti Dip "cures" for about 48 hours, you could even pressure wash it without it coming off. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPV2QgcAkwA Personally, I'm just going to wash it with Optimum No Rinse and dry it with a microfiber towel.

Mike

thebigjimsho
02-26-12, 10:06 PM
It will be fine through car washes. My V1 only got hand washes, but I run my V2 through an automatic wash once in a while. No problems...

Razorecko
02-26-12, 10:29 PM
I put plastidip on my truck front and after that stuff drys its flexible not to chip from rocks but tough enough to not get chipped away...even from close up pressure washing

wazo
05-31-12, 11:46 PM
Hey looks great, new to the forum just got a white v and had the dealer throw in black rims. I'd love to do my grill to match and really like how you left the chrome accent. Question, did you remove the grill? If not what do you recommend to protect the radiator? Also what plasti dip did you use? Matte or Gloss?
Thank you for the advice

Airfoto
06-01-12, 11:40 PM
The most IMPORTANT thing you need to do when spraying the front grill is to be sure you put something to protect the radiator and inercooler so they don't gett the overspray and clog them!!!!!!!!!!

There are quite a few other things you might need to know about this product - it is easy to use - does make it easy to change the appearance of your car - cheap too! Can be a pain in the ass during clean up and you have all the little strings pulled and cleaned off and on the very last one you pull off more then you wanted - part of what was suppose to stay on the car - all you can do is clean it off completely and respray that area - I had to respray a number of areas once or twice - it takes a while to figure the stuff out - but for what it is and does it works pretty well. You don't need to take the parts off the car - as mentioned it's easier to just spray over them and clean them up after the paint drys - most of it will all come off easy - but corners and under the lips on the mouldings can be a pain to clean. Just take your time during clean up!

Here's a few pics - I did all the chrome in black for now

http://i45.tinypic.com/2f0ewlt.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/qziwsm.jpg

wazo
06-02-12, 12:03 PM
Beautiful wagon! Would you mind giving some advice on how to get newspaper behind the grill? The opening is so small I can't even get my hand through te top, let alone blocking the radiator at the bottom grill. I don't have a lift or jacks so coming from the bottom is difficult.
Thanks again for advice

Airfoto
06-02-12, 04:47 PM
What I used was an old blanket (towels would also work) and hand feed it down through the inside of the eng bay - I used a long screw driver to push the blanket down into the area between the grill and radiator - in the area that would be covered and you can reposition it through the small grille slots to get the coverage you need from the front - there is NO simple way and there's no room - so it'll take a little time but well worth covering the raditor and innercooler - trial and error at it's best!

wazo
06-02-12, 05:06 PM
I found 4 plugs at the bottom and am barely able to get in but I have radiator covered and now I'm masking off the car. Pics to follow soon!

Stillborn
06-02-12, 09:05 PM
take your time,...have some electrical cleaner (aerosol alcohol) in case of over-spray. keep the can moving, and don't keep button depressed, (continual spray) lift as you stop and press as you apply in one movement 5-6 inches over intended area, make sure to get your angles (sides of trim pieces and odd angles) with equal coverage. 4-5 coats minimum. post pictures after you're done for lots of forum feedback. lol =]
side note: i didnt cover the inside of my grills with anything. i have no issues with heat or any other fear porn one might instill. the spray dissipates so much it's not in any way harmful, it's more of an ocd need for perfection. but to each his own.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/zx9mic/WP_000498.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/zx9mic/WP_000495.jpg

in motion....
sexy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwy8zOpGeuo


btw, that charcoal grey and black would've been dead nuts even for color combo choice. thats a gorgeous car my friend. congrats!

Purple87SS
06-03-12, 07:21 PM
I like leaving the look of leaving the chrome trim showing. My question is, how hard/ tedious is it to remove the the plast dip from the grill lacing, if you wanted to go back to the stock look? I have removed plasti dip from flat surfaces like wheels before but nothing like a grill.

Airfoto
06-04-12, 01:56 AM
Well - since I made a few mistakes puttting it on - I had experinece taking it off as well - not an issue at all - very suprising how easily it comes off - from all the trim items on the car - as well as the wheels!

Captain McFunk
06-04-12, 03:48 PM
MAN this car looks familiar! looks good! :)

Trapspeed
06-21-12, 09:45 PM
I like leaving the look of leaving the chrome trim showing.

Seconded. Love that look.

cadillaxe
06-21-12, 09:55 PM
Local dealer has a real cool look they've done on some cars. They do the grill mesh in gloss black, then all the trim (chrome) in flat black. No chrome left. Looks wicked!

Purple87SS
06-21-12, 10:14 PM
Local dealer has a real cool look they've done on some cars. They do the grill mesh in gloss black, then all the trim (chrome) in flat black. No chrome left. Looks wicked!

Need pics!

cadillaxe
06-22-12, 05:54 AM
Need pics!

i dug around on their website and on google in general, can't find it anywhere. They put some bigger black rims on it though for starters. The actual mesh is gloss black to match the gloss raven finish, then all the trim, including windows, the frame around the grill, all of it got the flat black look. They even took the "V" logos, hid the colored part, and flat blacked the rest. They had some cool pics in their project book, just can't find anything on line. maybe i can see if the salesguy can get a pic when he gets back Sunday.

anyone take all their trim off the car and do this? Still on the fence whether completely murdered is better than black grill mesh and chrome trim, but feels like that option should have black wheels with polished lips vs. complete black (better for murdered).

Purple87SS
06-22-12, 10:06 AM
Plenty of folks blacked out their chrome trim. No need to remove the trim while plasti dipping it. Mask it off but leave an inch around it, and after 4-5 good coats, the gap between the trim and edge for the masking should make a clean cut. Just peel/pull of slowly and at an angle away from the area/trim that will remain black.

Video of trim blackout by the man himself...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLdj4mlDC_g

cadillaxe
06-22-12, 06:09 PM
Plenty of folks blacked out their chrome trim. No need to remove the trim while plasti dipping it. Mask it off but leave an inch around it, and after 4-5 good coats, the gap between the trim and edge for the masking should make a clean cut. Just peel/pull of slowly and at an angle away from the area/trim that will remain black.

Video of trim blackout by the man himself...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLdj4mlDC_g

lot easier than pulling all the parts off for sure. Just have a hard time spray bombing on brand new paint, but i guess that's how you do it. Only question: if it's so easy to just rub off the good paint, how come it doesn't fall off the trim as easy? is it because you rub it off before it's fully cured? he didn't scuff sand the chrome at all, right? just sprayed on smooth surface? having painted my stuff for years, just seems strange to not scuff sand it first??

Thunder Gray STS
06-22-12, 08:51 PM
lot easier than pulling all the parts off for sure. Just have a hard time spray bombing on brand new paint, but i guess that's how you do it. Only question: if it's so easy to just rub off the good paint, how come it doesn't fall off the trim as easy? is it because you rub it off before it's fully cured? he didn't scuff sand the chrome at all, right? just sprayed on smooth surface? having painted my stuff for years, just seems strange to not scuff sand it first??

It does go against the grain. No scuffing required. Make sure you tape an inch or so away from the edge onto the paint. When you peel the excess off it will find its edge. Do not paint heavy coats. I did 4 on my grill. Let it dry about 15 minutes between coats. The last coat, let it dry about 30 minutes. Then remove the masked area. This was in progress. I did do the lower part. :)

cadillaxe
06-23-12, 06:45 AM
It does go against the grain. No scuffing required. Make sure you tape an inch or so away from the edge onto the paint. When you peel the excess off it will find its edge. Do not paint heavy coats. I did 4 on my grill. Let it dry about 15 minutes between coats. The last coat, let it dry about 30 minutes. Then remove the masked area. This was in progress. I did do the lower part. :)

just don't understand how it sticks to the part you want it to only, and not the part you don't w/o scuffing. I'm an engineer, so i'm probably overthinking it as usual.

thanks for clarifying you'll paint the bottom grill too, or i was going to give you hell about that, haha. :tisk:

cadillaxe
06-23-12, 06:47 AM
Before i post a pic here, do people on this forum get fussy if there's a bikini model in the pic?

Thunder Gray STS
06-23-12, 10:19 AM
just don't understand how it sticks to the part you want it to only, and not the part you don't w/o scuffing. I'm an engineer, so i'm probably overthinking it as usual.

thanks for clarifying you'll paint the bottom grill too, or i was going to give you hell about that, haha. :tisk:

Well, the only answer I have is that it isn't truly paint, it is rubber. Very thick and heavy compared to paint and very elastic. Oh and btw, the emblem was not taped off I just peeled it off of part of the crest, looked at that a little while and decided to remove the rest of the plasti dip from the rest of the emblem.

cadillaxe
06-23-12, 11:11 AM
Well, the only answer I have is that it isn't truly paint, it is rubber. Very thick and heavy compared to paint and very elastic. Oh and btw, the emblem was not taped off I just peeled it off of part of the crest, looked at that a little while and decided to remove the rest of the plasti dip from the rest of the emblem.

was wondering if it's not more like a rhinoliner mat'l, except w/o the grit. still can't fathom why it sticks to one smooth surface and not the one next to it.

Are those emblems part of the mesh casting, or are they screwed on...seems like i saw one that was stuck to a surface on it too. How's yours structured?

Stillborn
06-23-12, 02:19 PM
it sticks equal to all surfaces. the edge (or lip) of one surface to the next is where the magic happens. go to dip your car dot com on you tube ch and watch fonzie explain it, as he's a professional plasti-dip rep. =] hope this helps.

cadillaxe
06-23-12, 07:41 PM
it sticks equal to all surfaces. the edge (or lip) of one surface to the next is where the magic happens. go to dip your car dot com on you tube ch and watch fonzie explain it, as he's a professional plasti-dip rep. =] hope this helps.

ok, checked out more on the site, saw the video where he actually pulls the coating off a wheel a few weeks after he coated it. on one hand, it's concerning to me that it's that easy to remove it, i.e. will i accidentally do that washing it? or worse yet an autowasher? on the other hand, i feel better that there's consistency in how it acts on similar surfaces. There's logic and consistency again. whew. I feel better now. Wish i would've know about this stuff when I did my bike parts...

PS. if there are any rules against bikini pics, please let me know before a moderator issues a strike against me. thanks.
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MSOsr
06-23-12, 08:50 PM
The rubbery spray is easily removable from any surface after first dried. You can catch a corner with your fingernail and peel it off.

When you spray your grill, you only peel the area on the painted surface and leave the spray on the grill part alone. The gap between the paint and the grill will tear off the plasti-dip and leave the edge.

After about 48 hours, the grill area will be "fused" with the rubbery surface and it will be resistant to car washes, etc. If you want to remove it, however, you can "pierce" an area and grab the edge of the "rubber" and start peeling it off. However, it has been my experience that you don't have to worry about "accidently" removing it; you have to breach the surface to establish an area to grip.

Check youtube for videos of people pressure washing the plasti-dip area with no problem.

Mike (loves his front grills, foglight mounts and rear grills plasti-dipped)

colleyt
06-24-12, 11:21 PM
@Airfoto - did you spray all the trim around the widows too?

cadillaxe
10-03-12, 06:29 AM
This is what i was talking about wanting to do, except probably with solid black rims, and a chrome axe on the grill instead of the caddy symbol. unfortunately i think those things are molded into the grill these days. anyway, wicked car to say the least. 4300 lbs and under 3 sec 0-60? wow!


http://youtu.be/-RTpw4MIdVc

cadillaxe
04-19-13, 01:38 PM
any thoughts on grill work, if i want to have the grill gloss and the trim flat, am i better to do each part completely separate, or do all black, then mask the flat trim and spray the gloss, any ideas?

you leave about 3-4 hrs between black and glossifier?

Stillborn
04-20-13, 03:36 PM
check out "fonzie" on you tubes "dip your car" ch.

cadillaxe
04-20-13, 08:42 PM
i called them. they said paint it all black, then give at least a day, then go back and do a normal paint mask job on the flat stuff and spray the grill. will see how it goes...

Chosenone
04-22-13, 01:07 PM
Has anybody ever tried to plasti dip just on the paint. I have seen other people on here use the matte wrap to do their hoods and trunks in a matte finish. Seems like you could tape off and just use plasti dip. Seems like it would be easier than the getting bubbles out of the wrap and hiding seems.

thebigjimsho
04-22-13, 03:41 PM
Entire cars have been Plasti-dip'd...

Trapspeed
04-22-13, 10:12 PM
Entire cars have been Plasti-dip'd...

More than once! I did like the blue one best.

Smokin80
04-23-13, 02:10 PM
Has anybody ever tried to plasti dip just on the paint. I have seen other people on here use the matte wrap to do their hoods and trunks in a matte finish. Seems like you could tape off and just use plasti dip. Seems like it would be easier than the getting bubbles out of the wrap and hiding seems.

Problem is getting an even texture with plasti dip. The 3m 1080 wrap releases air so bubbles are easy and the rolls are 60 inches wide so there are no seams.

Cheers

cadillaxe
04-27-13, 07:44 PM
This week i attempted to plastidip all the chrome. a few points to note below for those trying this.

Materials
-ordered 2 cans black, 1 gloss, 1 cleaner/prep, 3 of those nozzles as the site wasn't clear if you needed them or not
-didn't need the nozzles - waste
-did need a 3rd can of black i couldn't get at 7 pm on a Friday night

Spraying
-yes, i watched the videos, and i know he said 4 coats of color, but i only was able to do 3 with the 2 cans
-yes, i know it's supposed to be thick enough onto the tape, but couldn't do a 4th coat
-as with any spray bomb, be real careful not to let your finger hit the stream or you get globs
-it didn't spray as fine a mist as i expected, so the final texture wasn't as smooth as i thought his vid looked
-maybe i didn't spray wet enough, i knew runs would ruin it, but it doesn't seem as apt to run as rustoleum enamel
-i had poor lighting in areas and didn't cover as good as i shoud've. carry a flashlight around it with you if you need to

Peeling
-overall, yes, it does peel away at breaks like he says, but it is SO critical to get enough on it.
-i had poor lighting in areas and didn't cover as good as i shoud've. carry a flashlight around it with you if you need to
-i had spots on the side vents where the tape was too close to the chrome, not enough of a gap, so when i peeled the mask, it peeled up a little piece from the chrome ruining that part
-then i started peeling around the window. that had a couple flaws on it. it's also tough to get it out of the cracks and off the thin rubber/plastic borders w/o messing up the part you want to keep. use a microfiber rag, not a razor of course

I knew it wasn't ideal with only 3 coats, the light areas, the flaw on the vent and the window frame, final texture, etc. the wheel centers did come out great, so left them. debated ordering more and redo, but decided i like some chrome and would stick to that. however, i did gloss over the grills, felt like that was solid because of the gloss protection, so stripped everything else but that and the wheel centers.

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