: Replacing Radio/GPS Buttons - Protective Coating?



Faber
01-27-12, 01:01 PM
So just ordered a new face plate so that I can finally install all of the new buttons I ordered, but was curious if I should apply a protective coating to the buttons and/or the face plate to keep this from happening again, or at minimum prolonging the time it will start again.
I saw this debated previously in a few posts:
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2004-2007-cadillac-cts-v-general/97195-protecting-flaking-radio-buttons.html
http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2004-2007-cadillac-cts-v-general/79609-just-thought-maybee-easy-fix-peeling.html

but was curious if there was a consensus on the best approach/product to use now that some of these options have likely been tested over time.

AAIIIC
01-27-12, 03:19 PM
It's possible that GM/Cadillac fixed the issue themselves. I bought my car used in late '07 with buttons already flaking. It had ~23.5k miles when I bought it. I had the radio/nav unit replaced in 2008 not too long before my warranty was going to expire. In the 3 years since I haven't seen any sign of flaking on any of the buttons (knock on wood!).

With that said, I'm curious to see what others have to say. I don't know if my experience is typical of what people have seen once they've gotten a new unit installed. It might just be that I'm more cautious with the buttons than the previous owner(s) of the car were.

RippyPartsDept
01-27-12, 03:26 PM
that sounds about right to me... we used to replace a lot of radios (CTS and others) due to buttons peeling but in the last few years there have been very few

you can purchase buttons only if that's all your after
you'll have to call Specmo's aftermarket sales company Motivicity (1-866-SPEED-16)

Aurora40
01-27-12, 06:51 PM
In the 3 years since I haven't seen any sign of flaking on any of the buttons (knock on wood!).
I think it has to do with whether you push the button with the pad of your finger, or straight on where your nail can hit it.

Faber
01-28-12, 10:46 AM
that sounds about right to me... we used to replace a lot of radios (CTS and others) due to buttons peeling but in the last few years there have been very few

you can purchase buttons only if that's all your after
you'll have to call Specmo's aftermarket sales company Motivicity (1-866-SPEED-16)

Def glad to hear that this issue might have been resolved. I already got my buttons from Luke @ Lindsay but good to know there's another source out there.


I think it has to do with whether you push the button with the pad of your finger, or straight on where your nail can hit it.
See, I have issues buying into this hypothesis. Given the radio placement and how you reach for it, i don't see the ability to have your nail hit it and cause the damage as being a regular occurrence. Plus, while my buttons were pealing when I bought the car, there was one or two ones that showed more pealing and it started as a bubble that then subsequently broke. To me that implies improper prep or more likely something (chemicals, oil, lotion, etc) penetrating the paint and causing it to lift from the plastic. If it was the nail you'd see damage point then pealing, not bubble then pealing.

RippyPartsDept
01-28-12, 11:33 AM
that's where Lindsay was getting their buttons ... I could sell them to you too, but they're such a cheap item that it's not really worth it for me to buy and stock them in the off chance that people would want them so I just direct you directly to the source.

Aurora40
01-28-12, 03:07 PM
See, I have issues buying into this hypothesis. Given the radio placement and how you reach for it, i don't see the ability to have your nail hit it and cause the damage as being a regular occurrence. Plus, while my buttons were pealing when I bought the car, there was one or two ones that showed more pealing and it started as a bubble that then subsequently broke. To me that implies improper prep or more likely something (chemicals, oil, lotion, etc) penetrating the paint and causing it to lift from the plastic. If it was the nail you'd see damage point then pealing, not bubble then pealing.
I drove our Aurora daily for 9 years, no chips/wear/etc on the buttons. Within two months of my wife driving it (when I got the V), the radio buttons were badly chipped. Same radio, same placement, etc. We don't push them the same, though.

CadzillaTN
01-29-12, 08:01 PM
Def glad to hear that this issue might have been resolved. I already got my buttons from Luke @ Lindsay but good to know there's another source out there.


See, I have issues buying into this hypothesis. Given the radio placement and how you reach for it, i don't see the ability to have your nail hit it and cause the damage as being a regular occurrence. Plus, while my buttons were pealing when I bought the car, there was one or two ones that showed more pealing and it started as a bubble that then subsequently broke. To me that implies improper prep or more likely something (chemicals, oil, lotion, etc) penetrating the paint and causing it to lift from the plastic. If it was the nail you'd see damage point then pealing, not bubble then pealing.

Agreed. Nails don't help of course, but a few of mine that I never touch are bubbling up.

Faber
01-29-12, 09:51 PM
I drove our Aurora daily for 9 years, no chips/wear/etc on the buttons. Within two months of my wife driving it (when I got the V), the radio buttons were badly chipped. Same radio, same placement, etc. We don't push them the same, though.

Could be that she uses more lotion than you, unless that is the same :suspect: just kidding. Without someone doing some overall testing this'll be another one of those long debates that will waste more time than actually replacing the buttons.