: Motor Trend ATS 1st look



droptopron
01-19-12, 11:54 AM
http://www.motortrend.com/auto_shows/detroit/2012/1112_2012_detroit_2013_cadillac_ats_first_look/#13269879984071&188,shopper

A lot to like on this car & some things I don't care for. Its handsome & nicely proportioned but maybe a little too close to the CTS. I guess that is dependent upon how much the next gen CTS grows. I hate the swept back headlights on this car or any car for that matter. They did away with pop up screen for infotainment. I think its neat but will prob hate it later in like if it breaks. Interior looks a little busy to me. I don't like the low mounted back up light.

The big thing with this car is the advances in technology. Thumbs up on that. Hopefully the coupe follows closely behind and the quality of the overall package is there from day 1.

0AT E03
01-19-12, 01:18 PM
Well I'm familiar with one of those chassis parts...

sfv41901
01-19-12, 01:49 PM
Nice

JimmyH
01-19-12, 02:58 PM
"The car has been optimized around 17- and 18-inch wheels to keep weight down and improve agility."

Thank God. I am really tired of 20" wheels making their way from SUV to sedan.

rand49er
01-19-12, 11:26 PM
It's probably been stated before elsewhere, but it's interesting that they feel BMW has moved away from their so-called best 3-series, the E46, with the E90 and the next model, too, and that Cadillac is trying to fill that E46 void.

MT also thinks that the TT3.6 will be the motor in the V version. I'm slowly becoming a convert.

JimmyH
01-20-12, 12:26 AM
Alot of people think the 3-series has lost its focus, not just the car rags.

My opinion is bmw has become too chic. The overwhelming majority of BMW buyers these days wouldn't know a driver's car from a driver set. I think they are simply bowing to what the new generation of bmw buyers want. A smooth riding car that is easy to control and has lots of gizmos.

TheCaptain
01-20-12, 11:25 AM
Alot of people think the 3-series has lost its focus, not just the car rags.

My opinion is bmw has become too chic. The overwhelming majority of BMW buyers these days wouldn't know a driver's car from a driver set. I think they are simply bowing to what the new generation of bmw buyers want. A smooth riding car that is easy to control and has lots of gizmos.

So they want a Mercedes? :rofl:

JimmyH
01-20-12, 01:17 PM
bmw, mercedes, audi...pretty much all the same cars

sfv41901
01-20-12, 03:46 PM
bmw, mercedes, audi...pretty much all the same cars

Just with different skins.........but mostly all the same

M5eater
01-20-12, 03:48 PM
bmw, mercedes, audi...pretty much all the same cars

They're all so focused on what each other is doing to attract each other's customers that they've lost what made them unqiue to drive in the first place.

Similar to Honda and Toyota..
The new Civic shows it worst.

JimmyH
01-20-12, 06:26 PM
At least Honda and Toyota don't make pretenses that are selling driving machines. They sell appliances and they are proud of it.

sfv41901
01-20-12, 06:58 PM
At least Honda and Toyota don't make pretenses that are selling driving machines. They sell appliances and they are proud of it.

Haha