: Damn Manual Transmission V''''''''''''''''''''''''''s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



thebigjimsho
12-29-11, 07:14 PM
Every car I've ever driven it's easy to remember what gear I'm in and where I need to be.

2+ years with this car and I still struggle. I often put it into a higher gear and just cruise. Then, because the torque numbers are insane, I go to shift to a higher gear that doesn't exist. Today, I was mindlessly cruising along at 40mph in 5th gear. A goosed the throttle and went to shift(into what I thought would be 4th from 3rd). When I got the lever into neutral, I thought "Duh..." and went back into 5th.

I do this on occasion. Sometimes I need an auto so I can go on driving brain-dead...

Stupid V...

SoCalCTSV
12-29-11, 07:31 PM
I agree and this is a good reason for an exhaust so I can hear what gear I'm in.

thebigjimsho
12-29-11, 07:37 PM
Yeah, since it was cold I had the windows up and the stereo was cranked. My exhaust is pretty loud and I still couldn't hear it...

hulksdaddy
12-29-11, 07:44 PM
Every car I've ever driven it's easy to remember what gear I'm in and where I need to be.

2+ years with this car and I still struggle. I often put it into a higher gear and just cruise. Then, because the torque numbers are insane, I go to shift to a higher gear that doesn't exist. Today, I was mindlessly cruising along at 40mph in 5th gear. A goosed the throttle and went to shift(into what I thought would be 4th from 3rd). When I got the lever into neutral, I thought "Duh..." and went back into 5th.

I do this on occasion. Sometimes I need an auto so I can go on driving brain-dead...

Stupid V...

I think you're doing a pretty good job of that already.. :histeric: :histeric: :hide:

thebigjimsho
12-29-11, 07:48 PM
I think you're doing a pretty good job of that already.. :histeric: :histeric: :hide:I drive brain-dead. You buy brain-dead...

SoCalCTSV
12-29-11, 07:49 PM
See my 950 mile drive review. No stereo.

thebigjimsho
12-29-11, 07:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Yfow7E8vjY&list=FLOEfuCr7HG74DwbVAdKPnXA& index=2&feature=plpp_video

hulksdaddy
12-29-11, 07:59 PM
I drive brain-dead. You buy brain-dead...

Guilty....

Gary Wells
12-29-11, 09:24 PM
Old age is setting in, Jim, buy an automatic before you forget to do so.
J/K, Jim, I've been peddling for years that way. One of the reasons that I bought an auto.

Squirlz
12-29-11, 09:31 PM
You're right about that. I have gotten confused on gears now that I think about it. Not like my MINI which is a cacophony of Noise Vibration and Harshness.

Nutz
12-29-11, 11:08 PM
Won't getcha around VIR as fast, but it'll getcha there in style cuz she's a beauty with LOW MILES. Plus, you'll never forget what gear your in, gurrantee'd.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1973-GMC-Motor-Home-/300642822761?pt=RVs_Campers&hash=item45ffb56a69#ht_500wt_1182

It's an automatic, so you better drink a 5 hour energy road pop just to be safe. :thumbsup:

OldRoadDawg
12-29-11, 11:29 PM
I drive brain-dead.
JP... doesn't look like you've forgotten how to turn R & L

Club Malibu
12-30-11, 10:32 AM
I always forget what gear I'm in. So when that happens I just aimlessly tap the top of the shift knob to figure out its location and what gear I'm in. I kinda wish on the instrument cluster there was a little indicator which would how the number of the gear I'm in. I know there's some aftermarket gear shift knob with maybe a mercury switch in it that displays the number of the gear it's in after you make it learn it's positions. Kinda ricey looking. I would never change my V shift knob though.

If I had enough time, (enough spare time), I would buy that funky gear shift knob, buy another V shift knob to hack up and buy another V instrument cluster to hack up and make that indication system I was taking about.

Still never wish I had an auto.

garfin
12-30-11, 11:00 AM
Every car I've ever driven it's easy to remember what gear I'm in and where I need to be.

2+ years with this car and I still struggle. I often put it into a higher gear and just cruise. Then, because the torque numbers are insane, I go to shift to a higher gear that doesn't exist. Today, I was mindlessly cruising along at 40mph in 5th gear. A goosed the throttle and went to shift(into what I thought would be 4th from 3rd). When I got the lever into neutral, I thought "Duh..." and went back into 5th.


I do this on occasion. Sometimes I need an auto so I can go on driving brain-dead...

Stupid V...

Heh, heh... more than once I've been cruising along in 6th and after a little stab on the loud pedal, I figure it's time to go into a higher gear as well! I guess I'm still getting used to all the torque that's available - even in 6th!
Once in awhile, if I've been the same gear for a stretch, I'll find myself asking, "Am I in 'x' gear or 'y' gear?" A quick glance down ar the tach usually clears up the confusion. LOL!

Best regards,

Elie

jb_bgg
12-30-11, 11:08 AM
40 in 5th?!?

;)

thebigjimsho
12-30-11, 02:03 PM
Sure.

mberisha
01-02-12, 09:39 AM
Jimbo....nice vid....great lines......

trukk
01-03-12, 01:57 PM
lolz....never had this problem in my V1. Also never used 6th gear.

V2: so much flarkin trq, and no headers yet == forget what gear I'm in. Also use 6th all the time, as there is no lugg going on at all.

Milleage is hellacious in V2 though. I'm averaging about 8mpg less in V2 vs. V1. Perhaps I need a cam in V2...hrmmmmm.

-Chris

thebigjimsho
01-03-12, 06:41 PM
lolz....never had this problem in my V1. Also never used 6th gear.

V2: so much flarkin trq, and no headers yet == forget what gear I'm in. Also use 6th all the time, as there is no lugg going on at all.

Milleage is hellacious in V2 though. I'm averaging about 8mpg less in V2 vs. V1. Perhaps I need a cam in V2...hrmmmmm.

-ChrisI hope you knew about the mileage in the V2. No lugging in 6th because you're running higher RPMs at similar speeds to V1. and because there is a buttload of torque.

I do wish the tank was bigger. I could squeeze 450 out of my V1. I'm lucky to get 325 in the V2. I don't mind the mileage. I do the range. It's hard to get into long drive grooves with the V2...

Razorecko
01-03-12, 09:54 PM
a good short shifter would fix this problem. The stalk is still too long imho. That 4th to 5th gear shift is way too long

JimmyH
01-03-12, 10:29 PM
I still forget to shift into 6th every so often. Nothing like cruising for 20 miles burning 400 extra RPM worth of gas.

thebigjimsho
01-04-12, 12:18 AM
The shifter has nothing to do with it...

JimmyH
01-04-12, 01:29 PM
I have no problem with my shifter. I wish I could say that about the clutch.

Razorecko
01-04-12, 05:32 PM
The clutch is easier to work with when you have a ported or larger tb like the ls7.

Torxila
01-04-12, 08:26 PM
Big J S

Easy solution, change your 5th & 6th gears from our .080:1 (5th) and .063:1 (6th) to .074:1(5th) & .050:1(6th) using Tremec part#'s TUEE8143, & TUEN10298 for 5th and TUEE8114 & TUEN10299 for 6th.

This will drop your revs by approx 20% and improve your range/mileage by about the same.
With the lower revs you won't be reaching for a higher gear all the time. Just my .02

Regards,
George

JimmyH
01-04-12, 10:17 PM
easy solution? hmm.

cheap solution? lulz

Torxila
01-05-12, 04:47 PM
easy solution? hmm.

cheap solution? lulz

4-500.00 for both gear sets. 275.00 for labour/fluids etc., with trans out of car. Not a bad payback actually if you picked up 20% on mileage. At monthly gas bills at 250-300/month, you have a payback approx 14 months. The c.o.o (cost of ownership) would lessen the more you drive.

I'm going to do it and I only drive about 6K/yr

George

thebigjimsho
01-05-12, 09:45 PM
4-500.00 for both gear sets. 275.00 for labour/fluids etc., with trans out of car. Not a bad payback actually if you picked up 20% on mileage. At monthly gas bills at 250-300/month, you have a payback approx 14 months. The c.o.o (cost of ownership) would lessen the more you drive.

I'm going to do it and I only drive about 6K/yr

Georgehmm...

What do you think about driving and acceleration characteristics? Accel noticeably slower? what would the theoretical top speed be??

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I would actually do that more for a longer fuel range, rather than fuel costs...

JimmyH
01-06-12, 03:07 PM
4-500.00 for both gear sets. 275.00 for labour/fluids etc., with trans out of car. Not a bad payback actually if you picked up 20% on mileage. At monthly gas bills at 250-300/month, you have a payback approx 14 months. The c.o.o (cost of ownership) would lessen the more you drive.

I'm going to do it and I only drive about 6K/yr

George

If you can really pick up 20%. i would be skeptical about that.

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I drive 25000/year (conservatively). At current gas prices, a 2mpg difference comes out to $350 per year. For that price, I would honestly rather have a shorter 6th gear. As it is, if I want to quickly accelerate on the highway in my Camaro, I have to drop to 5th. then again, there have been plenty of times I didn't feel like downshifting, so I just stayed where I was. Probably keeps me out of trouble in the long run.

Torxila
01-06-12, 04:26 PM
If you can really pick up 20%. i would be skeptical about that.

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I drive 25000/year (conservatively). At current gas prices, a 2mpg difference comes out to $350 per year. For that price, I would honestly rather have a shorter 6th gear. As it is, if I want to quickly accelerate on the highway in my Camaro, I have to drop to 5th. then again, there have been plenty of times I didn't feel like downshifting, so I just stayed where I was. Probably keeps me out of trouble in the long run.

Not sure about your math or what you pay for gas, but if you run premium in your Camaro at approx 3.50/gal and go from 15mpg up to 17mpg you save about $685.00 year based on 25k/year.

As far as down shifting to accellerate (quicker) on the highway I won't have that problem ( mods to come: 9.55/D3 HE/Kooks LT's/Mid pipe/ CAI/ Cam/springs/CNC heads, etc.

Maybe you should drop an LSA+ in the Chevy.

Regards,
George

Club Malibu
01-06-12, 07:17 PM
What I totally forgot and even wasn't thinking about when I ordered my V with a manual transmission and even when I first got my V was what I was giving up. Yeah I really miss driving my mom's 1981 Fleetwood with column shifter and bench seats back in highschool. And with other cars with automatics and buckets seats, sometimes I worry that she's going to knock the stalk into neutral but I'm willing to take my chances with that. But a manual car???? Gonna have to forget about it.

thebigjimsho
01-07-12, 10:36 AM
If you can really pick up 20%. i would be skeptical about that.

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I drive 25000/year (conservatively). At current gas prices, a 2mpg difference comes out to $350 per year. For that price, I would honestly rather have a shorter 6th gear. As it is, if I want to quickly accelerate on the highway in my Camaro, I have to drop to 5th. then again, there have been plenty of times I didn't feel like downshifting, so I just stayed where I was. Probably keeps me out of trouble in the long run.Jimmy, you really need to drive a manual V2. Where you would be under 2100rpm at 80mph in the V1, we're much higher. However, with an extra 150+hp, that 6th gear is very useable in acceleration.

JimmyH
01-07-12, 12:28 PM
I would get in too much trouble with a v2 :D

tedcmiller
01-07-12, 02:49 PM
After many years of straight gears ('56 Ford, '60 Chevy Impala, 66 GTO) I went to an automatic for 1970 Cadillac. I stayed with the auto through a '88 Buick and a '95 Eldo and then went back to the manual for five years on the 2004 and 2005 CTS-V (the 2004-2007 CTS-Vs did not offer an auto) so I know both types of transmmsions. I was tired of shifting, so I traded the 2005 CTS-V 6-speed manual for 2009 CTS-V with a 6-speed auto. I have never been happier.

JFJr
01-07-12, 03:15 PM
To each his own, but Ted the current manual "V" is much less work to drive than the V1, even in city traffic. I had a 2005 V1 before the 2009 V2. Glad you're happy with the automatic transmission.

thebigjimsho
01-07-12, 08:50 PM
I bought my V in San Antonio the Friday after Thanksgiving in '09. sefa01(member here, haven't seen him in awhile) had set up a V meet in New Jersey for Sunday morning. So I flew from Boston to SA on that Friday, got to the dealer around 4PM and left around 7PM to head home. Drove through the night that first night, drove all day Saturday and got into NJ around midnight and got a hotel room. Surprised the guys with the new V that morning.

The problem was all my driving was highway. Not only did I want to make the meet, I wanted to be back at work on Monday morning. So it was all highway. I goosed it a few times but I really didn't have much experience rowing through the gears in anger. So when we meet up on the Garden State Parkway and then head towards the Palisades to Bear Mountain, we had a good group of Vs and Vettes and others. Instead of flying through the gears, I pretty much kept it in 4th all the way up the Parkway. I usually wouldn't get too close to redline and it would pull like a mutha from anywhere above 30mph...

deckofficer
01-09-12, 01:24 PM
Big J S

Easy solution, change your 5th & 6th gears from our .080:1 (5th) and .063:1 (6th) to .074:1(5th) & .050:1(6th) using Tremec part#'s TUEE8143, & TUEN10298 for 5th and TUEE8114 & TUEN10299 for 6th.

This will drop your revs by approx 20% and improve your range/mileage by about the same.
With the lower revs you won't be reaching for a higher gear all the time. Just my .02

Regards,
George

This might be the only mod I do to the V. Right now it only gets 21 mpg on a trip, that 0.50 top gear would improve that a lot. On the subject of the OP, my Track-T hot rod now has the Tremec TKO 600 5-speed, and jumping from it to the V has me guessing. Now if the V was geared as tall as the Track-T, I would get great mileage. The T breaks 30 mpg on the highway, 10 second 1/4, and 1.04G cornering. At 114 mph is only turning 2600 rpm.

http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff452/deckofficer/Overdrive/DSC01409.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loKSbCvCzMc

The V is a big hit at my local hangout, Hog Wild Ribs in Placerville, California.
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff452/deckofficer/Hog%20Wild%209%2019%202011/DSC008521014x760.jpg

http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff452/deckofficer/Hog%20Wild%209%2019%202011/DSC008551014x760.jpg

http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff452/deckofficer/Hog%20Wild%20June%2020%202011/DSC003141014x760.jpg

thebigjimsho
01-09-12, 10:09 PM
Damn.

deckofficer
01-09-12, 11:45 PM
Damn.

??, You and I have talked, you know I'm a bit "outside the box" on my automotive interests.

Bob