: Food for thought; A6 V2 MPG



M5eater
09-09-11, 07:54 AM
So, we all know that
1) an auto V2 gets 12/18 .. pretty abysmal but there are cetinally much worse cars, right?
2) the tank is a pautlry 18 gallons
3) that makes fill ups 240-300miles apart depending on how you drive

Lets go back to 1) for a minuite, specifically the last part, and do a little comparison.

I decided on a whim to acutally browse for a while to see how superior the V2 is to the rest of the world. I'm just going to link fueleconomy.gov stuff here.

I'm not here to complain about cost of gas or the like, if anything annoys me it's going to the gas-station twice a week. I'm a car guy, the Cost doesn't really effect me, rather, the inconvience of interupting the drive if anything.


M5eater, certinally 150K+ exotics that garrgle diced lions for fuel get much worse miles per kitty than the V2 does!
Remeber, 2011 V2 Automatic is 12/18

http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/31087.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/24753.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/bymodel/2006_Ford_GT.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/29962.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30237.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30250.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30225.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30929.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30222.shtml


M5eater, the V2 gets a tick more than an E60 M5, certinally there are other super-sedans that are below the V2?
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30921.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30396.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/31071.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30682.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30423.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30936.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30691.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30943.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30420.shtml


M5 eater, did you forget about SUVs?
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30578.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30200.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30776.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30201.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30197.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30790.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30801.shtml


m5eater, what about a bugatti veyron??
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30226.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30565.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/30481.shtml
http://fueleconomy.gov/Feg/noframes/22187.shtml --this was the SRT-10 Ram for those that are confused.

smackdownCTSV
09-09-11, 08:47 AM
Actually the highway mileage is better at actual highway speeds. I get 18 mpg at 80 mph. I can hit 20-21 mpg doing 65 mph.

M5eater
09-09-11, 08:50 AM
Actually the highway mileage is better at actual highway speeds. I get 18 mpg at 80 mph. I can hit 20-21 mpg doing 65 mph.
That could be said about any car though.. city/hwy are averages, it's possible to get better or worse highway in all the cars listed. If you look at the fine print below your EPA sticker, it says
acutal highway mpg may varry between 14-22. Most drivers will achieve 18mpg.
my numbers may be off, but they're all like this.

That's just like my trip to NJ a while back. Sure the instant spat out 20-21 doing 65 for brief moments, but on a 300 mile trip I averaged, 17.8-18 between stopping @ intersections, passing, idiot people and speed changes.

e6t
09-09-11, 10:26 AM
in preparing my taxes i ran some numbers. in my 6MT, driven highway and city for a total of 3500 miles, I averaged 13.27 mpg. The most on a tank was 267 and the best mpg for a tank was 19.04. The fewest miles on a tank was 176 and the worst mpg was 11.6.

Crazy and terrible, but DAMN it was fun.

The worst part was having to stop for gas every couple days.

Rock1
09-09-11, 11:18 AM
I have 2800 miles and I my avg MPG is 16 I stop for gas 2x a week..But you know I dont care I love the car :cool2: Going to get gas is a real good excuse to drive her

smackdownCTSV
09-09-11, 12:41 PM
The highway MPG used to be set at 55 mph. And the same could be said for the new Hyundai's out with 40 mpg. How many do you think actually get that? Not many at all. Only those going 55 mph. But 14 mpg highway for the CTS-V? WTF?! You'd have to be going faster than 80 mph to average that.

b4z
09-10-11, 01:34 PM
Re: 300+ mile trip:
The tank could be bigger. If it was 2 more gallons and had 20 total, then at 18mpg you would pick up 36 miles range or 30 minutes of driving which is very important to me when planning stops or just driving without having to stop. The small tank really defeats the purpose of driving over the speed limit because all the people you passed are going to sail by as you sit at the gas station beeing unproductive. Then there is all the stress of having to pass them again. And if there were difficult to pass the first time they are going to be just as hard the second.

Since the '01l Z06 came out, then the gen V in 2004 GM has gone to a closer ration 6 speed(MN12). It has a .57 6th gear instead of the .50. If cadillac put the .50 6th gear back in the car would gain about 1mpg. Or 18 miles range. But this thread is about the auto not the M6.

b4z
09-10-11, 01:40 PM
Oh yeah, if you want optimum mileage don't run E85. It costs about 3%. Or about .6mpg if you are getting 20mpg.

cruiser68
09-10-11, 01:57 PM
Don't feel bad, I'm gassing up every other day :) Yeah it could be a bigger tank but I don't care...V2 is too much fun to drive.

cts-v ls6
09-10-11, 06:21 PM
b4V-

The Dodge 6 speed Tremec has the .50:1 5th-6th gear set and it will fit in our trans. Just saying...


Jack

cts-v ls6
09-10-11, 06:22 PM
Uh, sorry, meant b4Z!

Jack

Kluch
09-10-11, 07:49 PM
Oh yeah, if you want optimum mileage don't run E85. It costs about 3%. Or about .6mpg if you are getting 20mpg.

The V can run E85? Wow. News to me.

M5eater
09-10-11, 08:48 PM
The V can run E85? Wow. News to me.

you can run anything on E85 if you tune for it... for a while at least.

b4z
09-10-11, 09:34 PM
Sorry. Meant E10. Was thinking about other mods.

yeah the .50 gear will drop right in.

Torxila
09-11-11, 07:54 PM
If you swap out 5th & 6th from a stock C6 Z06 we can drop rpms by 20% on highway 2600 at 85mph would then be 2080 at 85mph. That's got to help big time.
George


MM6-C6/Z06 MG9-CTS V MH3-ZR1
2.664 2.660 2.289
1.783 1.780 1.611
1.302 1.300 1.208
1.000 1.000 1.000
0.741 0.800 0.818
0.502 0.630 0.675
2.903 2.900 3.106
3.420-diff 3.730 diff 3.420 diff
4000 lb ( 1680 kg ) 4255 lb ( 1930 kg ) 4000 lb ( 1680 kg )
Aluminum Aluminum Aluminum
85mm 85 mm 85mm
Texaco ATF Type III 1863 Texaco ATF Type III 1863 Texaco ATF Type III 1863
Wet: 54.9 kg (121 lb ) 61.5kg Wet: 65.8 kg (145.1 lb ) Wet: 54.9 kg (121 lb )
Dry: 3.8L (4.0 qt) 117 oz. Dry: 3.8L +/- 0.06L (4.0 qt) 128 oz. +/- 2 oz, internal pump Dry: 3.8L (4.0 qt) 117 oz.
No No No
Chevrolet Corvette Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Cadillac CTS V Corvette ZR1

M5eater
09-12-11, 08:03 AM
If you swap out 5th & 6th from a stock C6 Z06 we can drop rpms by 20% on highway 2600 at 85mph would then be 2080 at 85mph. That's got to help big time.
George


MM6-C6/Z06 MG9-CTS V MH3-ZR1
2.664 2.660 2.289
1.783 1.780 1.611
1.302 1.300 1.208
1.000 1.000 1.000
0.741 0.800 0.818
0.502 0.630 0.675
2.903 2.900 3.106
3.420-diff 3.730 diff 3.420 diff
4000 lb ( 1680 kg ) 4255 lb ( 1930 kg ) 4000 lb ( 1680 kg )
Aluminum Aluminum Aluminum
85mm 85 mm 85mm
Texaco ATF Type III 1863 Texaco ATF Type III 1863 Texaco ATF Type III 1863
Wet: 54.9 kg (121 lb ) 61.5kg Wet: 65.8 kg (145.1 lb ) Wet: 54.9 kg (121 lb )
Dry: 3.8L (4.0 qt) 117 oz. Dry: 3.8L +/- 0.06L (4.0 qt) 128 oz. +/- 2 oz, internal pump Dry: 3.8L (4.0 qt) 117 oz.
No No No
Chevrolet Corvette Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Cadillac CTS V Corvette ZR1

is there really a lot of reason to though? I've heard 21mpg highway thrown-around as a resonable expectation on tuned V2's with the auto, I would expect that to be 22-23 on a stick, and that's *almost* like a charger/G8 with a big V8(with active cylinder shut-off)

Mystical_Ice
09-13-11, 01:14 AM
The worst part was having to stop for gas every couple days.

Every COUPLE days? Man, when i was driving my V2 as a daily driver, i was filling it up every OTHER day. Getting under 200 miles a tank. Then again, that's because i always fill up right below 1/4 tank, but it sucks driving a car 100 miles on a full tank, and being below the 1/2 mark... it just sucks.