: winter mats and tire question for my v wagon

09-01-11, 08:31 PM
Just called weather tech and they said they don't have winter mats/liners for the v wagon, do you think the sedan mats/liners would fit the same in the wagon? Also, what is the best winter tire for our vs? Thanx for any info.

09-01-11, 08:46 PM
I bought the digital cut weatheryech fronts for my Vagon, fit no problem

09-01-11, 09:01 PM
Best winter tire hands down IMHO (the important part) is a nokian tire. Which one depends on where you are and how much winter you actually see. For most folks the WR gen2 would be more then enough, others who see more ice/deep snow may want to go with a different nokian.

I used to run WR's on my subarus in the winter, nothing could stop those damn cars with those tires on them. NOTHING (not even snowbanks, i tried)

Slushy stuff:

Mid atlantic "weather":

Real snow:

Real snow (in a state that allows studs):


09-01-11, 10:20 PM
I will probably try the Hakkapeliitta R tires next time around as I've heard so much positive about them.

In the meantime, I will be entering my third winter this year with the stock-sized Pirelli Sottorzero 240s that GM actually tested with this car. The tread is starting to wear after a total of around 10k miles (9636 miles to be exact--I keep track). I suspect this will be the last winter I'll be able to use these tires, and I may even have to replace mid-season. We'll see.

They handle fabulously in dry weather and I have been through severe snowstorms with the car feeling almost like it was on dry pavement. They are that good.

09-01-11, 10:43 PM
Yeah i have heard good things about those Pirelli's, i just havent tried them (i normally end up in nokians for winter).

09-01-11, 11:24 PM
I'd read the 78 posts about winter tires since's there's a LOT out there. :)

09-02-11, 10:17 AM
Since our winter driving conditions in Toronto are not all that severe, I went with the high performance Pirelli 240 Sottos in stock sizes on my manual V. There is virtually no loss of handling and grip on cold pavement and I did make a point of going for some good runs on the street after a few significant snow falls. A friend of mine who has an '09 V and drives it in the winter with 255/40/18" Blizzaks all round said that his car felt like "mush" compared to mine on the Sottos. However, he might be able to handle more severe conditions...
The Sottos handle snow and ice beautifully - especially with all the nannies on. I had no trouble ascending ice covered driveways with these tires. Taking off the nannies in a deserted, snow-covered parking lot will still allow you to easily control the car while behaving like a hooligan if you are an experienced winter driver.
The best price (by a longshot!) I found on the Sottos were from Tire Rack in the U.S.... and that included duty, taxes and shipping.

Best regards,


09-02-11, 01:13 PM
For winter mats you might check out Auto Pride Concepts, a sponsor here. http://www.autoprideconcepts.com/lloyd_mats.htm#rubbertite

09-02-11, 04:54 PM
Thanks for all the useful information.

09-02-11, 05:38 PM
Have weather tech. Mats for my wagon(very servicable). Also have hacapalitas. Recomend both.

Patent Guy
09-02-11, 09:57 PM
I'm a big fan of weathertech. Just ordered full set and trunk for my 09. Used them in my prior car and found them to be the best out there - and I've tried about everything I think. The also are made in the US.

09-02-11, 10:30 PM
Are the front and rear mats the same size in the sedan and wagon?